January 28, 201214 yr It doesn't happen too often but every once in a while I need to save the flight and load it later on. Up to now this never ever worked out well... There is always something wrong and not working. Did anyone ever load a saved flight and had EVERYTHING the way it was at the moment of saving? I just did a flight where after loading most of the things were restored but VNAV was disconnected and there is no way I can turn it on again. Things like that. Why isn't it possible to save and load a flight and simply go on where you left without having to fix all kinds of things? As it is now I simply won't save flights anymore because it's useless.
January 28, 201214 yr Jeroen, it worked more than once for me. However, in my experience it seems to me that there is no guarantee, indeed. As far as I can recapitulate my experience it likely does not work if you are extensively using your memory (via AI traffic, weather, autogen, whatever...). Under such circumstances I even have sometimes no gauges at all after re-loading. Probably it's somehow priority driven what is stored under some conditions. And yes, it's a pain and it seems to me being worse after having installed the latest SP. Regards,Axel
January 28, 201214 yr Not yet worked for me. Exactly the same issue as Jeroen. No VNAV. Save not working at all here.. JAKE EYREIt's a small step from the sublime to the ridiculous...Napoleon Bonaparte
January 28, 201214 yr Ok, well, 'good' to know I am not the only one. Another thing I noticed that performance after loading a flight is bad. I was flying smoothly when I saved the flight, but when I loaded it, it was a choppy happening. Maybe a memory issue indeed. Well, I guess this means I simply have to finish a flight or forget about it if I can't...
January 28, 201214 yr Saving a flight is unpredictable whether addon aircraft or default aircraft is used
January 28, 201214 yr No guarantees either, I just Pause, Do a panel state save, and also save the flight under FS. Have had a pretty good success rate.
January 28, 201214 yr I should clarify a litte (I posted about this very issue and I think there wasn't an answer) when the dreaded 20 second countdown is done, my FMC/legs page has reverted to hunting the first waypoint in the Route thus rendering VNAV inoperable as it obviously cannot comply to the request as the first point in my route is usually hundreds of miles behind, and thousands of feet below my current fix. So, I guess VNAV is doing the correct thing, it's the actual fix of the plane that is being mis-reported to the FMC (possibly by FSX, but this doesn't happen with any of my other saves with other A/C) JAKE EYREIt's a small step from the sublime to the ridiculous...Napoleon Bonaparte
January 28, 201214 yr There are two things i do that seem to work (most of the time)1) I always load my saved flight only after i have just started FSX (Never end a flight and then load a saved flight without first exiting FSX) or there's a good chance you will get black gauges.2) Wnen the flight has loaded and of course the Vnav light is off, i hit the button before initialization has finished (Vnav always re engages for me when i do that). I have done this a lot for landing practices (never could get along with the slew method) . However i must agree that the saved flight function is not the best on this a/c, so like everybody else, i stay away from using flight saves if at all possible. Regards, Rick Hobbs
January 28, 201214 yr 2) Wnen the flight has loaded and of course the Vnav light is off, i hit the button before initialization has finished (Vnav always re engages for me when i do that).I gave it a try: didn't work...
January 28, 201214 yr Hmm..I tried the slew method, and for some reason (probably old, dirty pots in my joystick) I moved; about half a mile laterally!By the time the 20 seconds had gone, I was at the correct alt but no matter what I tried I couldn't get VNAV back on, but more seriously, I was unable to use my flightplan anymore as, as before, it had started at the beginning again.is there a way to "start from here" so to speak, with the route on the FMC? I can insert and fly-to/direct-to a fix/waypoint, but it then seems to want to go back again to the beginning and start again from the beginning after I have passed the inserted waypoint (which at this point was near me anyway)bestjake JAKE EYREIt's a small step from the sublime to the ridiculous...Napoleon Bonaparte
January 28, 201214 yr I gave it a try: didn't work...Guess i just got lucky then. Can't understand why this save thing doesn't work. I wonder what answer you would get if you submitted it in a support ticket as a bug report?Hmm..I tried the slew method, and for some reason (probably old, dirty pots in my joystick) I moved; about half a mile laterally!By the time the 20 seconds had gone, I was at the correct alt but no matter what I tried I couldn't get VNAV back on, but more seriously, I was unable to use my flightplan anymore as, as before, it had started at the beginning again.is there a way to "start from here" so to speak, with the route on the FMC? I can insert and fly-to/direct-to a fix/waypoint, but it then seems to want to go back again to the beginning and start again from the beginning after I have passed the inserted waypoint (which at this point was near me anyway)bestjakeLike i said Jake, never could get on with the slew method. Rick Hobbs
January 28, 201214 yr Hey Rick,I don't want to submit a ticket really; it's not that important - yet :)Iexpect they've got their hands full with SP1c and 777 (who knows; these maye be fixed issues in sp1c)bestjake JAKE EYREIt's a small step from the sublime to the ridiculous...Napoleon Bonaparte
January 28, 201214 yr Hey Rick,I don't want to submit a ticket really; it's not that important - yet :)Iexpect they've got their hands full with SP1c and 777 (who knows; these maye be fixed issues in sp1c)bestjakeIt would be nice to see a fix some time though because for me, i think it is a great learning tool when it comes to practicing all kinds of situations. Personally, i don't do many flights over 2hrs, so i could live without flight saves if it were just for continuing long duration flights. I get more enjoyment out of two or three short flights, than out of one long flight.Regards, Rick Hobbs
January 28, 201214 yr Commercial Member Guys,There's a very good reason certain things can't be saved properly in the panel state: The NGX is essentially a giant dynamic calculation and the systems are always responding to values being fed into them by other systems and so on. When the plane is first loaded, some of these system don't have values until everything else gets going - this is the reason you see VNAV disconnected and stuff like that. It's just the way it is and the price we pay for simulating the systems in this way. The only way to make something like that save would be to model it inaccurately and non-dynamically. Ryan MaziarzFor fastest support, please submit a ticket at http://support.precisionmanuals.com
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