Andy, it all depends what you want in FSX and how you use it. From previous posts, sounds like you run FS9 with alot of default textures etc?I may move to FSX one day, but for now, FS9 runs smooth as glass for what I use it for (IFR Jetz sim). A recent post here at Avsim:"I have FSX Installed with REX 2.0, some add-ons like aerosoft munchen. My problem is when i am starting on munchen with just the default Boeing 737-800, i am getting such a low fps." User Word Not Allowed replied: "What is "low fps"? Remember, FSX can't be ran at highest settings. Start with all sliders at left."Word Not Allowed rasies a good question, what is low fps? Everyone prefers some value over another... So what value do you prefer?Other posts:4ghz i7, 6gb ram, gtx580 w/ latest beta drivers, win7 64bit. 30fps in the air but 10 on the ground? No AI at all. No road traffic either. Only a few boats in the traffic menu.Gigabyte Z68XPUD4 I5 2500k O/C 4.3 Ghz GTX 560Ti 8GB Kingston DDR3 Windows 7 64 bit CPU back to base clock and I am now getting between 6.7-7.5 FPSi5-620 CPU with a GTX465 and it ran FSX JFK, all sliders maxed out, @ 5 FPS. Upgraded my system to, i7-990X 3.46GHz w/ GTX580 and 6GB of RAM, Intel DX58SO motherboard. I loaded up JFK with maxed out settings and got 13 FPS!?Intel i7-950 3.06GHz CPU and am running Windows 7 64-bit. The frame rates when I run Flight Simulator X (FSX) are dismal - even with moderate/medium video settings. The performance averages between 8 to 11 frames per second and the flight experience is very choppy.Processor: Intel Core i7 965 Extreme (3.2GHz) Quad Core, 6.4GT/s QPI (o/c to 3.8 However I'm getting horrible FPS in FSX. Notibly 5 FPS while at KIAD!!!i7 960 OCZ Gold 12gb ddr3-1600 ram ATi hd 5970 (ASUS) 2 Intel SSD hard drives (raid) Asus P6X58D moboI'm running into issues of low frame rate in Flight Simulator X (FSX). I haven't overclocked anything yet, but my frame rates are between 10-12 fps while sitting on the runway in virtual cockpit mode.3.06GHz Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield LGA 1366 Quad-Core Processor Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 580 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 SLIWhen running Flight Simulator X the screen gets very "choppy" and lags terribly. I'm averaging around 8 to 12 FPS.GPU: GTX590 3GB CPU i7-2600K 3.4Ghz RAM: 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz PSU: 1000W Club 3D Mobo: Z68 Extreme 4 by ASRockI am getting really low fps with fsx it almost never gets over 10 fps.GT 240 1GB Intel Core i7-860 2.8Ghz 4 GB Ram Windows 7I get very low FPS when play FSX from 15 to 20. On High to Ultra settings. On this settings the graphics even look seriously dated and i should be running a game like this at around a 100 fps.Mobo: Asus M3A CPU: AMD Phenom 9850 x4 Black edition (2.5GHZ) RAM: 6GB DDR2 800mhz GFX: 1*Nvidia 9800GTX (overclocked by about 15%)We get frame rates of around 20-30 with dips as low as 10/12. messing with settings doesn't really do that much and lowering the resolution makes the image distorted and out of proportion.I7-2600k, Geforce GTX570, 8 gigs memory,Thrustmaster Warthog and TrackIR 5I have a fairly new machine (see specs in sig) and I have added a line to the fax.cfg that should make FSX use all the cores of the cpu (which moved me from 13fps to 20fps).Maybe overclocking is the secret, along with all the tweaks listed for FSX.RJ

Edited February 1, 201214 yr by 3Green

Andy, it all depends what you want in FSX and how you use it. From previous posts, sounds like you run FS9 with alot of default textures etc?I may move to FSX one day, but for now, FS9 runs smooth as glass for what I use it for (IFR Jetz sim).A recent post here at Avsim:"I have FSX Installed with REX 2.0, some add-ons like aerosoft munchen. My problem is when i am starting on munchen with just the default Boeing 737-800, i am getting such a low fps." User Word Not Allowed replied: "What is "low fps"? Remember, FSX can't be ran at highest settings. Start with all sliders at left."Word Not Allowed rasies a good question, what is low fps? Everyone prefers some value over another... So what value do you prefer?Other posts:4ghz i7, 6gb ram, gtx580 w/ latest beta drivers, win7 64bit. 30fps in the air but 10 on the ground? No AI at all. No road traffic either. Only a few boats in the traffic menu.Gigabyte Z68XPUD4 I5 2500k O/C 4.3 Ghz GTX 560Ti 8GB Kingston DDR3 Windows 7 64 bit CPU back to base clock and I am now getting between 6.7-7.5 FPSi5-620 CPU with a GTX465 and it ran FSX JFK, all sliders maxed out, @ 5 FPS. Upgraded my system to, i7-990X 3.46GHz w/ GTX580 and 6GB of RAM, Intel DX58SO motherboard. I loaded up JFK with maxed out settings and got 13 FPS!?Intel i7-950 3.06GHz CPU and am running Windows 7 64-bit. The frame rates when I run Flight Simulator X (FSX) are dismal - even with moderate/medium video settings. The performance averages between 8 to 11 frames per second and the flight experience is very choppy.Processor: Intel Core i7 965 Extreme (3.2GHz) Quad Core, 6.4GT/s QPI (o/c to 3.8 However I'm getting horrible FPS in FSX. Notibly 5 FPS while at KIAD!!!i7 960 OCZ Gold 12gb ddr3-1600 ram ATi hd 5970 (ASUS) 2 Intel SSD hard drives (raid) Asus P6X58D moboI'm running into issues of low frame rate in Flight Simulator X (FSX). I haven't overclocked anything yet, but my frame rates are between 10-12 fps while sitting on the runway in virtual cockpit mode.3.06GHz Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield LGA 1366 Quad-Core Processor Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 580 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 SLIWhen running Flight Simulator X the screen gets very "choppy" and lags terribly. I'm averaging around 8 to 12 FPS.GPU: GTX590 3GB CPU i7-2600K 3.4Ghz RAM: 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz PSU: 1000W Club 3D Mobo: Z68 Extreme 4 by ASRockI am getting really low fps with fsx it almost never gets over 10 fps.GT 240 1GB Intel Core i7-860 2.8Ghz 4 GB Ram Windows 7I get very low FPS when play FSX from 15 to 20. On High to Ultra settings. On this settings the graphics even look seriously dated and i should be running a game like this at around a 100 fps.Mobo: Asus M3A CPU: AMD Phenom 9850 x4 Black edition (2.5GHZ) RAM: 6GB DDR2 800mhz GFX: 1*Nvidia 9800GTX (overclocked by about 15%)We get frame rates of around 20-30 with dips as low as 10/12. messing with settings doesn't really do that much and lowering the resolution makes the image distorted and out of proportion.I7-2600k, Geforce GTX570, 8 gigs memory,Thrustmaster Warthog and TrackIR 5I have a fairly new machine (see specs in sig) and I have added a line to the fax.cfg that should make FSX use all the cores of the cpu (which moved me from 13fps to 20fps).Maybe overclocking is the secret, along with all the tweaks listed for FSX.RJ

Well I noticed an unbelievable difference in FPS after doing the Tweak guide. I uploaded my fsx.cfg to that tweak analsys. Wow it is magic! I am getting 20-30FPS with the NGX.Now I have to try it with traffic.Daniel

There are some excellent ideas and pointers coming out of this thread. Thanks Guys and well done Andy for probably reflecting what many of us are thinking with Flight not really being cooked up to what we all hoped. I even went out and bought FSX Gold in a pique of protest of Flight not really being what was promised on the tin, but also thinking that perhaps the time has come to move on. Some of the entries in the Screen Shot Forum shows what FSX is capable of (stunning) and yet is FS9 really that far behind? Look at Edroit (Ed's) captions in the Screen Shot forum. Additionally, look at some of the new scenery releases for FS9. For what is worth Andy, whilst (like you) battling off the winter blues and waiting the daffodils to flower, I have come to the conclusion that I am going wait another year see if anything develops with MS Flight. Hopefully, within that time there may be another generation of video cards and/or processors that will make FSX run as smoothly as FS9 does for me.

Andy, it all depends what you want in FSX and how you use it. From previous posts, sounds like you run FS9 with alot of default textures etc?I may move to FSX one day, but for now, FS9 runs smooth as glass for what I use it for (IFR Jetz sim).A recent post here at Avsim:"I have FSX Installed with REX 2.0, some add-ons like aerosoft munchen. My problem is when i am starting on munchen with just the default Boeing 737-800, i am getting such a low fps." User Word Not Allowed replied: "What is "low fps"? Remember, FSX can't be ran at highest settings. Start with all sliders at left."Word Not Allowed rasies a good question, what is low fps? Everyone prefers some value over another... So what value do you prefer?Other posts:4ghz i7, 6gb ram, gtx580 w/ latest beta drivers, win7 64bit. 30fps in the air but 10 on the ground? No AI at all. No road traffic either. Only a few boats in the traffic menu.Gigabyte Z68XPUD4 I5 2500k O/C 4.3 Ghz GTX 560Ti 8GB Kingston DDR3 Windows 7 64 bit CPU back to base clock and I am now getting between 6.7-7.5 FPSi5-620 CPU with a GTX465 and it ran FSX JFK, all sliders maxed out, @ 5 FPS. Upgraded my system to, i7-990X 3.46GHz w/ GTX580 and 6GB of RAM, Intel DX58SO motherboard. I loaded up JFK with maxed out settings and got 13 FPS!?Intel i7-950 3.06GHz CPU and am running Windows 7 64-bit. The frame rates when I run Flight Simulator X (FSX) are dismal - even with moderate/medium video settings. The performance averages between 8 to 11 frames per second and the flight experience is very choppy.Processor: Intel Core i7 965 Extreme (3.2GHz) Quad Core, 6.4GT/s QPI (o/c to 3.8 However I'm getting horrible FPS in FSX. Notibly 5 FPS while at KIAD!!!i7 960 OCZ Gold 12gb ddr3-1600 ram ATi hd 5970 (ASUS) 2 Intel SSD hard drives (raid) Asus P6X58D moboI'm running into issues of low frame rate in Flight Simulator X (FSX). I haven't overclocked anything yet, but my frame rates are between 10-12 fps while sitting on the runway in virtual cockpit mode.3.06GHz Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield LGA 1366 Quad-Core Processor Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 580 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 SLIWhen running Flight Simulator X the screen gets very "choppy" and lags terribly. I'm averaging around 8 to 12 FPS.GPU: GTX590 3GB CPU i7-2600K 3.4Ghz RAM: 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz PSU: 1000W Club 3D Mobo: Z68 Extreme 4 by ASRockI am getting really low fps with fsx it almost never gets over 10 fps.GT 240 1GB Intel Core i7-860 2.8Ghz 4 GB Ram Windows 7I get very low FPS when play FSX from 15 to 20. On High to Ultra settings. On this settings the graphics even look seriously dated and i should be running a game like this at around a 100 fps.Mobo: Asus M3A CPU: AMD Phenom 9850 x4 Black edition (2.5GHZ) RAM: 6GB DDR2 800mhz GFX: 1*Nvidia 9800GTX (overclocked by about 15%)We get frame rates of around 20-30 with dips as low as 10/12. messing with settings doesn't really do that much and lowering the resolution makes the image distorted and out of proportion.I7-2600k, Geforce GTX570, 8 gigs memory,Thrustmaster Warthog and TrackIR 5I have a fairly new machine (see specs in sig) and I have added a line to the fax.cfg that should make FSX use all the cores of the cpu (which moved me from 13fps to 20fps).Maybe overclocking is the secret, along with all the tweaks listed for FSX.RJ

Interesting looking through all those different setups and there experiences running FSX.Interesting because all those newer machines don't sound as though they are getting a much better experience than I did with my old single p4 setup (present machine still) Having read through a lot of these posts in response to my original query I have decided I will not be scrapping my old PC yet. FSX will have to slumber on in my hard drive for the time being.Andy

There are some excellent ideas and pointers coming out of this thread. Thanks Guys and well done Andy for probably reflecting what many of us are thinking with Flight not really being cooked up to what we all hoped. I even went out and bought FSX Gold in a pique of protest of Flight not really being what was promised on the tin, but also thinking that perhaps the time has come to move on. Some of the entries in the Screen Shot Forum shows what FSX is capable of (stunning) and yet is FS9 really that far behind? Look at Edroit (Ed's) captions in the Screen Shot forum. Additionally, look at some of the new scenery releases for FS9. For what is worth Andy, whilst (like you) battling off the winter blues and waiting the daffodils to flower, I have come to the conclusion that I am going wait another year see if anything develops with MS Flight. Hopefully, within that time there may be another generation of video cards and/or processors that will make FSX run as smoothly as FS9 does for me.

Absolutely Trist ,a sensible approach.Andy

Just doing the Tweaks can do more for you than a new machine!I am getting awesome FPS in FSX!But having Windows 7 64 bit might have something to do with it......Daniel

Edited February 2, 201214 yr by IAF747

Just doing the Tweaks can do more for you than a new machine!I am getting awesome FPS in FSX!But having Windows 7 64 bit might have something to do with it......Daniel

Just out of interest Daniel, when you are saying 'I am getting awesome FPS in FSX' what are your AI traffic settings ?

Just out of interest Daniel, when you are saying 'I am getting awesome FPS in FSX' what are your AI traffic settings ?

I just installed WOAI on my set up. Traffic makes no difference. But I will try out some heavier stuff.I was at EGLL with the Huey X, UK2000extreme and VFR scenery with traffic, getting around 20-45 FPS. Sometimes dropped to 12 but not much. That was looking at airport from above. If you are taxiing I am sure it wouldn't be so bad.Daniel

Interesting because all those newer machines don't sound as though they are getting a much better experience than I did with my old single p4 setup (present machine still)

Hello AndyFor every one of those posts crying about low fps there are many more who are getting great performance from FSXJust maybe, those folk having issues have no idea how to tune their hardware or the Sim.There is a large difference between an FS9 install set up by someone who knows what they are doing and an FS9 install without any optimisation applied, FSX is no different in this regard.FSX at this point has reached maturity and is now running as well on multicore machines as FS9 does.Do not forget that FSX leverages all four cores compared to the situation with FS9 limited to one core only.The addons available now such as the NGX and J41 from PMDG and the Realair Duke are a huge step forward as is the ability to display much higher res photo textures, the UK with GenX scenery and the UK2000 stuff is stunning.You have much to look forward to in the future should you decide to build a new machine.IMHO Flight! may turn out even better and I say that as a Beta tester who was initially very sceptical of the new platform.How Flight! turns out will be totally in the hands of those folk who buy the downloaded addons, MS will take the platform in the direction that yields the most profit for them.If the community gets behind the platform it has a chance to influence the direction it takes, stay away and we may all miss out on what could have been a great Sim platform for us.

Edited February 3, 201214 yr by mad dog

Hello AndyFor every one of those posts crying about low fps there are many more who are getting great performance from FSXJust maybe, those folk having issues have no idea how to tune their hardware or the Sim.There is a large difference between an FS9 install set up by someone who knows what they are doing and an FS9 install without any optimisation applied, FSX is no different in this regard.FSX at this point has reached maturity and is now running as well on multicore machines as FS9 does.Do not forget that FSX leverages all four cores compared to the situation with FS9 limited to one core only.The addons available now such as the NGX and J41 from PMDG and the Realair Duke are a huge step forward as is the ability to display much higher res photo textures, the UK with GenX scenery and the UK2000 stuff is stunning.You have much to look forward to in the future should you decide to build a new machine.IMHO Flight! may turn out even better and I say that as a Beta tester who was initially very sceptical of the new platform.How Flight! turns out will be totally in the hands of those folk who buy the downloaded addons, MS will take the platform in the direction that yields the most profit for them.If the community gets behind the platform it has a chance to influence the direction it takes, stay away and we may all miss out on what could have been a great Sim platform for us.

Very interesting views on FLIGHT.Nice to see a willingness to at least give it a chance .I am actually quite interested now to see what this new sim may bring having initially been carried away on the tide of disappointment and gloom expressed by so many sim fans(Cant take any more of that ) .AndyPS people seem to be rather angry at the prospect of having to pay for extra 'bits' of FLIGHT after initial free download , on the other hand I suppose we would have had to pay 60 -100quid/dollars anyway as per all other 'NORMAL' sim releases (cant remember how much FSX was initially ) if they weren't trying this new method of distributing it,that amount may buy a nice Europe or Africa scenery or addon aircraft in FLIGHT .If there good quality then i don't see the problem. Just because there MSoft produced doesn't mean they will be rubbish.(It was after all that same Msoft that bought us the flight simulation hobby in the first place) :Cuppa:ppsI do like a nicely packaged product though and will miss the excited rush back from the shop/store to open it up.

Edited February 3, 201214 yr by HoratioWondersocks