Guys, I was planning on flying into Regan tonight so I downloaded the Procedures from Navigraph into nDac hopeing to fly the famous River Vis, but there is no procedure/charts with anything River Visual on it, am I missing something. I know Visuals arnt in the FMS Database but there should still be a chart for it. Is the procedure gone now?Cheers

http://www.airnav.com/airport/KDCAhttp://155.178.201.160/d-tpp/1203/00443RIVER_VIS19.PDF

http://155.178.201.1...RIVER_VIS19.PDFEDIT: LOL, I'm only second winner.

Go to www.airnav.com and enter KDCA. Scroll down the list and you will find s chart for the River Visual approach to 19. Thinking about picking up the new DCA release, particularly after seeing the chart, looks like a fun approach. AThought about linking, but that odd ip based link might have been blocked. Doh!Now you have 3 answers. For many chart needs in the US, check www.skyvector.com or airnav. Great sources...

Ok, got the charts thanks!Now is this procedure still done in real life? If so, why doesn't Navigraph include it, I paid money to use there service and if I'm not going to get everything I need then I dont want it and I'll just use AIRNAV or whatever.

Ok, got the charts thanks!Now is this procedure still done in real life? If so, why doesn't Navigraph include it, I paid money to use there service and if I'm not going to get everything I need then I dont want it and I'll just use AIRNAV or whatever.

Done routinely in the real world. Maybe Navigraph simply doesn't offer charted visual flight procedures (CVFPs), they are the red-headed stepchildren of the TERPS world.

navigraph sucks. Get them from the FAA instead. They are free (for now)

Have fun flying this beautiful approach! How I loved to watch all the traffic on final from the Mall. There's nothing like driving over the 395-bridge, and a 737 just flying over your head... :(

Navigraph does suck, this isn't the first time I've had this type of problem.

My father-inlaw was fortunate enough to have the opportunity of flying a United 747-400 on the KDCA River visual approach. Took two go-arounds before he got it right. I am sure that was a sight to see that day.

My father-inlaw was fortunate enough to have the opportunity of flying a United 747-400 on the KDCA River visual approach. Took two go-arounds before he got it right. I am sure that was a sight to see that day.

A 747 into DCA?

A 747 into DCA?

Thats what I was going to say, nobody has ever operated a 747 on a schedualed basis AFAIK, + the runway 01/19 is only 6890 feet.

Exactly, there NEVER was a 747 into DCA. The biggest plane in history to land there was a UA DC-10 during a thunderstorm, where all other airports in the Capital Region were closed and they ran out of fuel. It was that spectacular back then that it made all the news and headlines. Biggest plane that's operated into DCA on a scheduled basis is the AA 757-200. If you have ever been to National airport, they already look very over sized in this environment. I guess landing a 747 into DCA could be compared to landing a 777 at London City airport. :(

Thats what I was going to say, nobody has ever operated a 747 on a schedualed basis AFAIK, + the runway 01/19 is only 6890 feet.

Sometimes strange routings happen. He told me the other day about flying a 747 from KSFO to KOAK for maintenance purposes. There could have been a mistaken communication by myself or him, but I remember him telling the story after I brought up this specific River visual approach.Perhaps he meant to say 757, or I heard him wrong? He has been rated on the 757/767 as well. :(