Have you noticed issues with weight when performing cargo or passenger jobs? There are times where the plane is overloaded in the red even if I reduce fuel. A few times it has caused me to crash upon takeoff - the plane was completely unstable. The weight numbers for jobs don't seem accurate sometimes.Is this a bug or a sim feature?

I consider this a feature and an important one as every pilot must be aware of their aircraft's weight and balance. Getting it wrong is bad news. It's cool that the sim reinforces this concept in newcomers.A C172S has 4 seats. How many passengers do you think it can carry with a full fuel load?

Oracle427I consider this a feature and an important one as every pilot must be aware of their aircraft's weight and balance. Getting it wrong is bad news. It's cool that the sim reinforces this concept in newcomers.

I agree, this might be a feature, but then, newcomers should be warned by the program, the copilot, or the mission controller.In the meantime I still consider this as a big BUG as replied to a post on a recent thread:Please see: http://forum.avsim.n...t/#entry2308426

Yeah this was discussed in the beta... "for the 'pilot' to determine"...But the "balance" part not there... an extremely important concept (c.g.) I would have liked to see included. Maybe sometime in the future.You can be well-under gross t/o weight and be out of c.g. (with dire consequences awaiting).

Its something you have to think about. A ultra light challenger has 2 seats but if you put a full load of fuel and floats on it, your down to just the pilot unless your second passenger is a little monster. Having the right weight can mean flying next weekend or writing off your life and/or a 100k worth of plane.I really like the feature, I had a cargo mission and was able to get off the ground but could not get the plane to gain additional height, by the time I decided to go the long way around the island it was too late. The ground caught up to me and I ended up in the trees and all my doggies died.

I am overweight on every cargo flight in the Maule, even if I only have enough fuel to get me there. I usually on short runways, hold the brakes let the engine rev all the way up then away I go. Also, I have found it helps if you can get the tail off the ground as soon as possible by pushing forward a little. Gain as much speed as possible before lifting off the ground and climb as gradually as you can. I have only crash once from overwieght issues.

The crew member told the OP that he was too heavy. I think that's a good clue.

The crew member told the OP that he was too heavy. I think that's a good clue.

Yes it is, but the crew member should actually refuse to fly and step out of the aircraft.

Agreed, but it is a frighteningly frequent cause of accidents! I think it is great that it makes one think about it.Look at the qualifications of these two pilots who ignore the basics and pay for it: http://www.generalav...lane-crashes-2/If it weren't so scary, it would be comical. Look at this chain of failures that was only seconds away from ending many lives: http://www.skybrary....05_%28GND_HF%29No guesses on the C172 question? :)

Yes it is, but the crew member should actually refuse to fly and step out of the aircraft.

At the very least you should be allowed to boot the nut. :Big Grin:

Yes it is, but the crew member should actually refuse to fly and step out of the aircraft.

...putting the plane back within operating limits.

Looks like we need a bigger cargo plane! :Waiting:

No guesses on the C172 question? :)

depends on the size (weight) of your pax. :Tounge:

I prefer cargo/passenger missions in the 500-600 pound range. That means 3 passengers, but never 4. I've taken off (and landed) overweight a few times. You might want to pass up those 900 pound missions until we have a more capable plane.As for locking a mission out if it's overweight, I hope they never do it. This is the kind of thing where people learn.Hook

I like that there are missions that you shouldn't be accepting because of the weight - adds to the challenge. I like having to calculate my fuel before I go. If my invisible co-pilot wants to step out, thats fine by me, didn't want him there anyway (especially Mr Snarky who wants you to run everything by the book (have you heard his reaction if you skid on landing a clandestine cargo mission, btw?)).I presume we'll be getting bigger cargo plane(s) at some point, and then most of the missions should be 'doable' anyway, but I'm happy that they're there already and I definitely don't want them locked out. I think it adds to the game that there are posted jobs that you can't personally take. It shouldn't all be about you, or it feels too sterile and tailored.It does feel a bit odd when your copilot is telling you that you need to choose a bigger plane when it's currently impossible to do that. But then they all say some weird stuff anyway. Mr Snarky likes to chastise me for having too much fuel on board when we set off - and I ignore him - and then we get down to 6 or 7% and he'll chastise me for having not put enough fuel in and stating that we'll have to make an unscheduled fuel stop... almost immediately followed by the 'we're 5 miles out, run thru your pre-landing checklist' thing, since I always aim to finish a flight with about 5% fuel on board for eventualities.And then there's that darned woman who pees herself every time you take her sightseeing. Grr. I've lost count of the number of times she's urinated in my Stearman and *I* have lost points for it! 'I really need to stop for the bathroom in the next 2 minutes!'... 'uh, sure, if I can dump you in the sea to do it, lady! Have you LOOKED where we are?!'