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Just bought Maule, can't take off with passengers...?

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I bought the Maule this afternoon and I've been trying to do some jobs with passengers, but I can't even take off...?!? Whenever I give full throttle the plane goes into circles on the ground and nothing I can do about it... I did a medical job this afternoon without problems. Am I missing something obvious...???EDITBummer, the same goes for cargo... At my first try some guy said we were too heavy. How am I supposed to know that??? Now all I could do was quit the job and it was gone from the joblist. So the second time I carried as little fuel as ready and when I wanted to take off, I immediately was going in circles on the ground again... Wazzup? :wacko:EDIT 2Hm... the game remembered the weather from the last landing challenge... After setting the weather to Clear skies I was able to take off.I still wonder how you can now if you are too heavy or not. The screen where you pick the aircraft says there is 0.0 on board and the weight isn't even NEAR maximum...???

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That is strange, I have done several jobs with passenger and cargo in the Maule, never had it behave like that...

Don B

Crosswind, perhaps? A substantial crosswind will mess up your lineup on the runway.If you haven't figured it out yet, you can't carry 4 passengers and fuel without being severely overloaded. Three passengers is about the max. Similarly, you may want to restrict cargo missions to well under 700 pounds.Good luck.Hook

Larry Hookins

 

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
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You absolutely must reduce your fuel load to the absolute minimum, and even then there are some missions that cannot be flown at all even if you reduce the fuel load to zero!

Fr. Bill    

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IMO, the Maule has some kind of "bug", meaning the tail wheel gets stuck left or right. Try steering with the keyboard during Takeoff "A" and ""D", and keep that wheel on the ground a bit longer applying elevator. Reduce Fuel.Propwash appears to influence that too.

Ramón.
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You absolutely must reduce your fuel load to the absolute minimum, and even then there are some missions that cannot be flown at all even if you reduce the fuel load to zero!
Well, I am discovering that... I just did a job with some 10 liters spare fuel. The guy said we were almost too heavy. I took off anyway, skipped to the destination (before the landing) and there I was, without fuel...This is a bit crappy, isn't it...??? I bought the Maule to do jobs but a lot of them I STILL can't do...??? Is what Hook siad correct: "Three passengers is about the max. Similarly, you may want to restrict cargo missions to well under 700 pounds."?How the **** am I to know which missions I can do and which I better skip?

Press f to open the fuel screen while on the ramp. Get your weight below the max gross by reducing your fuel load. Be aware that some payloads are simply to heavy for the Maule. It even says it on the screen that you will need a more capable aircraft.Plan your takeoff accordingly. Make sure you use all available runway and account for the direction of the wind.Use the checklists and observe the proper speeds to climb out.Good luck!Welcome to "simulation".That is what most of us here are looking for right? :)If you need to figure out your payload, look at the aircraft details in the hangar. Google information on the fuel burn, etc. you know how fast you're going and how far you're going, do you can judge how much fuel you need using simple math.Alternatively, you can go it by trial and error and struggle a bit.Fyi the Skyhawk I fly can carry about 800 pounds of passengers AND fuel. A full fuel load is 318 pounds.I have 4 seats.

Ah, there's the fun in it! You have to pick and choose your missions, and you'll learn from exerience which ones to take and which ones to pass.I'm not going to take any mission that's 900 pounds, for example. I'm not going to attempt 4 passengers ever again.Once you get some idea of how much fuel you'll use, you can determine how much you'll need for a job, and how much overweight you're willing to go. If you hit N to skip to waypoint, you'll use the maximum amount of fuel. If you fly the job, you can lean the engine to the point that it's just running well and often have plenty to make the trip.Just remember that there's a 3 gallon unusable reserve, 1.5 gallons per tank. Figure leaning your engine to get 10 gallons per hour. You're flying 100-125 knots. A little math should tell you how much total fuel you'll need.Hook

Larry Hookins

 

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;

Press f to open the fuel screen while on the ramp. Get your weight below the max gross by reducing your fuel load. Be aware that some payloads are simply to heavy for the Maule. It even says it on the screen that you will need a more capable aircraft.
Well, that's the problem. As soon as I am on the ramp, I can't open the fuel window anymore. And the (very) odd thing is that when I select a cargo mission with (example) 300 kg of cargo and then proceed to the Hangar and THERE click on fuel, the game says the payload is ZERO. As I said above, I load fuel solely looking at the distance, keeping some reservers, and the weight slider is VERY low, not even CLOSE to the maximum, but when I load the flight... I am told I am too heavy.This sucks big time.I indeed have to make sure I won't take more then 3 passengers and no more then a specific amount of cargo AND I shouldn't pick long flights because of the amount of fuel... But NONE of this can be really calculated or figured out in the game. You just have to guess. "Welcome to "simulation"...? I don't think so.
you can lean the engine to the point that it's just running well and often have plenty to make the trip.
I was hoping to be able to lean in the Maule because I can't in the RV, but I can't in the Maule either. When I bring back the mixture, nothing happens at ALL until I reach 16% and then the engine suddenly drops... Between 20 and 100 NOTHING happens. I was happy to see the Maule had an EGT gauge but it's dead...? Again: simulation? I don't think so.

Once you taxi to the runway you should be able to access the fuel screen. You might have to move forward if you are on the threshold.

Aaron

Jeroen,Often times I have been where the plane was intially parked at the very beginning of the job, and not able to dump or take on any fuel. Move forward a bit, then it became available to me.Can't say as to why...Regarding weight, don't always take their word for it. I completed a couple jobs at least in the Maule, where I was told I was overweight but proceeded anyway without major issue.

Don B

There is a bug where you have to move some distance on the ramp and them stop before f works. I think it's been reported elsewhere on the forum.You can put the effort in, or do it by trial and error.The planning is quick and shouldn't take much longer than 5 minutes and all the information is built into the game. You can find out on the job page and the aircraft info page. Your actual weight is on the f screen in the job.

When I bring back the mixture, nothing happens at ALL until I reach 16% and then the engine suddenly drops... Between 20 and 100 NOTHING happens.
Watch your fuel flow gauge. I usually run between 15 and 17 inches manifold pressure, and lean the engine while watching the fuel flow gauge. As long as the engine is running smoothly, and providing power, I'm happy. I think at 500 feet AGL you can do around 8 gallons per hour and still have the engine run smoothly. It's a bit overlean, obviously. :DHook

Larry Hookins

 

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;

There is absolutely an effect on the mixture between 20 and 100, but it is subtle. The EGT, does not appear to work in the Maule, but it is not essential to roughly set the mixture. How do you lean on the Stearman then?Listen to the engine when you lean and you will divinely hear a change as you lean or enrichen the mixture. I find a decent boost in performance even at lower altitudes. It is very obvious when climbing.

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Make certain that you've edited the standard.xml file to remove the <AxNull> entries from both the prop and mixture lever definitions if you are using hardware controls for them. They are put in my Flight in error, and this "bug" has been reported to MSGS so eventually it will be fixed permanently.

Fr. Bill    

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