Anyone recommend an add-on KSAN? The only really detailed one I can find is the FlyTampa scenery, but that's almost ten years old now. Is it worth buying? Would to fly in and get a feel of flying into the built-up area (already have one file installed that adds buildings - an improvement).

 

I currently have the one from http://frfstudio.net/ (site currently down it seems), which is great for freeware, but would like to have a more detailed rendition of this airport.

 

Thanks for any tips,

 

Martin

Anyone recommend an add-on KSAN? The only really detailed one I can find is the FlyTampa scenery, but that's almost ten years old now. Is it worth buying? Would to fly in and get a feel of flying into the built-up area (already have one file installed that adds buildings - an improvement).

 

I currently have the one from http://frfstudio.net/ (site currently down it seems), which is great for freeware, but would like to have a more detailed rendition of this airport.

 

Thanks for any tips,

 

Martin

 

Hi Martin

 

I use the Fly Tampa legacy version of KSAN, which is very good but not of the quality of the latest Fly Tampa releases. I have never used the FRF version of KSAN but have installed many of their other airports. FRF versions are clearly an improvement on the default airports and very welcome as freeware for airports where no scenery was previously available but I think it is fair to say that they are not up to the standard of pay ware and, as such I think you would find that even the Fly Tampa legacy version of KSAN is a significant improvement. I'm not sure if Fly Tampa are planning an update on this as they did for Tampa (Tampa Rebooted - a great addon,) but there is no mention of this being planned in their forum and I think they are busy with developing CYUL so it looks unlikely.

 

I have also installed Mega Scanery Southern California V2 and Fly Tampa KSAN fits in quite well with this and, like you, I have also installed some extra autogen for the San Diego city area and the overall effect is pretty good!

 

Hope this helps,,

Bill

 

I have also installed Mega Scanery Southern California V2 and Fly Tampa KSAN fits in quite well with this and, like you, I have also installed some extra autogen for the San Diego city area and the overall effect is pretty good!

 

Are you saying that the autogen things from FlyTampa works on top of the Megascenery? I have Megascenery SoCal myself and, it's stunning from altitude and around the mountains...love it. But it can be exceedingly flat down low. I wish they would add a way to get some more autogen.

 

Gregg

I like FRF Studios offerings - I do beta testing for them in fact - but will investigate the FlyTampa I think, as I'd like something a bit more for KSAN. The screenshots look pretty good.

 

Thanks,

 

Martin

Framerates friendly,AES supported, details as usual,quite low price. I'd say it is a good airport overall. But because I've had it for a very very long time. If I were you and considering buying it to replace FRF...I'd stick with FRF version. Save the bucks for the other high quality paywares.

 

Although, I'm having little bit trouble with the elevation (I'm using Flytampa's KSAN with FSGlobal and UT USA). But at the car park area, so I can live with it

 

 

Are you saying that the autogen things from FlyTampa works on top of the Megascenery? I have Megascenery SoCal myself and, it's stunning from altitude and around the mountains...love it. But it can be exceedingly flat down low. I wish they would add a way to get some more autogen.

 

Gregg

 

As far as I can remember I have also installed some freeware autogen for San Diego in addition to the Fly Tampa KSAN scenery and the overall effect when approaching Runway 27 at KSAN is pretty good. I take your point about the flatness of Megascenery when flying low however but this is an unfortunate feature of photoscenery wherever it is installed. Sometimes I feel I would be better just using the default scenery with enhanced autogen and textures but when flying over areas that I know, I like being able to recognise landmarks etc. Only France VFR appear to have got the balance right with their VFR series for FS9 which is absolutely superb at any altitude.

 

Bill

As far as I can remember I have also installed some freeware autogen for San Diego in addition to the Fly Tampa KSAN scenery and the overall effect when approaching Runway 27 at KSAN is pretty good. I take your point about the flatness of Megascenery when flying low however but this is an unfortunate feature of photoscenery wherever it is installed.

 

Sometimes I wish that Megascenery would think a little outside the box. Things like:

• Higher resolution near the airports
  
• Create a way for people to create and upload dynamic scenery to offer with their products. Even just positioning existing, precreated trees. Anything.
  

I agree entirely that having photoreal scenery is the best at altitude. But pure photo (they probably have the lowest dynamic scenery of all the providers) is fairly strange down low. Orbx has done a lot with mixing both. I guess it's a matter of making money and having the will to do it.

 

Gregg

Yes, I agree. I was looking forward to Imaginesim's new Delhi, VIDP. Looks great from 5,000 feet but as you taxi along to the runway the vague pink and green blur either side of the taxiway is frankly hideous. I didn't get past the trial version (hats off, even so, to Imaginesim for providing one).

 

M

Just to give you an idea of what Fly Tampa KSAN looks like and what can be achieved when it is combined with Mega Scenery SoCal V2, I am attaching some screenshots. Sure, photoreal scenery is not at it's best at low altitude, but I think you will agree that even on approach to R/W 27 the overall effect is not unacceptable - and one should probably be concentrating on the runway and not viewing the scenery at this stage of the approach anyway!!

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the screenshots! I will probably go for this (not a lot of competition anyway!) - though I am in the throes of moving from one country to another at the moment, so it might wait until I am settled again, but looks a good option at some stage soon.

 

M

I just wish we could persuade Fly Tampa (and other developers) to significantly drop the price on their legacy products like KSAN. I would like to buy it but I feel that it's overpriced now that it is an old product. I think if the price of older productions like this decreased after several years, there would be more incentive to continue to buy them

Cheers

Ian

ps. This info may be out of date, but at one point at least Aerosoft had a DVD that had four Fly Tampa airports on it that included KSAN. It didn't cost a whole lot more than the single download version of KSAN so you might want to take a look and see if the other airports are ones you would like to have

I have the Aerosoft CD with KSAN, KSFO, KTPA and KMIA but have replaced KTPA and KMIA with the FlyTampa Rebooted and Latin VFR airports respectively as these are a significant improvement. Nevertheless KSAN IMO is not bad and KSFO is pretty good (to the point where I do not think it is justified to buy Aerosoft Mega Airport San Francisco to replace it. If you have none of these airports this may be a good overall purchase.

 

Bill

Thanks for the input. To be honest, I am preoccupied with last minute decisions over which country I am going to end up working in (it's either Greece or the Ukraine!) and haven't had time to look at this too much. But it will be there when I come back to it, once all the panic has died down! I have 36 hours to decide, and I still haven't heard how much the Greek people can afford to pay me!

 

Any flight simmers in Kiev I wonder??

 

Martin

and I still haven't heard how much the Greek people can afford to pay me!

 

Probably only a handful of Drachma, the way things are looking.

 

(And it's not worth coming back here, the weather's terrible!)

 

Colin B