Hi Folks. Absolutely new to MCE, so still struggeling. No matter what i try, i cannot get GSX to work.

 

When i start at the ramp, cold and dark or load the NGX tutorial 2 saved flight at EHAM before pushback (Engines not running), Simon introduces himself and tells me to give him a shout if i need anything and thats the last i here of GSX. If i ask (as per MCE docs) ground are you ready for pushback, i get my F.O. telling me something about the ground engineer. If i hit CTRL+F12, i get a list of gates from GSX.

 

Bottom line is, no response from GSX. I have done the recommended tweaks to the ,ini file ( GSX in place of native & GSX & AES=1)

 

Can someone point me in the right direction before i go bugging support?

 

Thanks,

Hi Rick,

 

if you have applied the tweaks to the ini file, then it should work. I've never had any problems at all.

 

So, first thing, have you looked at the GSX/AES commands in the DOCS folder of you MCE install?

There is a PDF file called GSX&AES and this give you all the voice commands for GSX/AES.

 

If you use this to start with, you will soon get used to the commands.

 

If after you have tried this and still no luck, give us a shout back

 

Clive

Hi Folks. Absolutely new to MCE, so still struggeling. No matter what i try, i cannot get GSX to work.

 

When i start at the ramp, cold and dark or load the NGX tutorial 2 saved flight at EHAM before pushback (Engines not running), Simon introduces himself and tells me to give him a shout if i need anything and thats the last i here of GSX. If i ask (as per MCE docs) ground are you ready for pushback, i get my F.O. telling me something about the ground engineer. If i hit CTRL+F12, i get a list of gates from GSX.

 

Bottom line is, no response from GSX. I have done the recommended tweaks to the ,ini file ( GSX in place of native & GSX & AES=1)

 

Can someone point me in the right direction before i go bugging support?

 

Thanks,

 

Hi Rick,

 

If when pressing ctl+F12 you are getting a list of gates and not the proper GSX menu, then chances are GSX is having a problem recognizing where you are.

 

There are issues between GSX and EHAM, something to do with the afcad file. Basically gSX needs to know you are at the position marked for parking or it will understand you are in transit and give you a choice of gates to go to. I had this issue before.

 

Try another airport just to get the feel for it, you just need to be at gate, engines off, parking brake on and you should be ok.

 

Remember to call you mce ground crew to help out "cockpit to ground" or something of the sort.

Hi Rick,

 

if you have applied the tweaks to the ini file, then it should work. I've never had any problems at all.

 

So, first thing, have you looked at the GSX/AES commands in the DOCS folder of you MCE install?

There is a PDF file called GSX&AES and this give you all the voice commands for GSX/AES.

 

If you use this to start with, you will soon get used to the commands.

 

If after you have tried this and still no luck, give us a shout back

 

Clive

 

Hey Clive. Yup done all that. All i get back is my F.O. telling me i cant do that, or ATC wont like that, etc, etc.

 

Hi Rick,

 

If when pressing ctl+F12 you are getting a list of gates and not the proper GSX menu, then chances are GSX is having a problem recognizing where you are.

 

There are issues between GSX and EHAM, something to do with the afcad file. Basically gSX needs to know you are at the position marked for parking or it will understand you are in transit and give you a choice of gates to go to. I had this issue before.

 

Try another airport just to get the feel for it, you just need to be at gate, engines off, parking brake on and you should be ok.

 

Remember to call you mce ground crew to help out "cockpit to ground" or something of the sort.

Hey Will. Doesn't matter what airport, after Simon introduces himself, he wont talk to me.

 

Maybe there is a step i am missing here. If it's not too much trouble, can somebody give me a walkthrough.

 

Regards,

clive

 

i posted some notes about similar "issues" in another topic last week.

 

at this stage, my solution is to leave mce.ini @ native, activate either GSX or AES by keys as appropriate and then ask simon for the service (whilst the the service dialogue is still visible).

 

i realise this is not much different to using the keys.

 

one thing i believe is an interface issue for MCE is that at an FSDT airport (eg KDFW), there is an extra GSX input sequence to asking simon / keying the parking service - i am guessing the MCE / GSX interface is set for default / non FSDT airports.

 

& yes, it took a few iterations to realise simon doesn't do the pushback !!

 

 

John. The impression i am getting from the threads on this subject is that voice interaction between MCE & GSX is seamless (excepting for now, after landing)

 

Regards,

Hi Rick,

 

It has been seamless in the past, I have not had the chance to test it out for the past few weeks, but will do a flight tonight and see if anything has changed...

 

I have been using the excellent document from Dan (look it up in the Avsim library) that shows the complete flow with the NGX and GSX.

 

All I did was replace "Native" with "GSX" in the mce.ini

 

I actually had a problem before, as when I reinstalled GSX the install was corrupted.

 

But last time I tried it, as soon as I start MCE, GSX would be engaged by eith er "Simon" or "Roberto"...and I think there is a third crewmember as well.

 

Then I call out my ground crew....and away it goes...I suggest you test out Dan's document and flow files and see how you go.

 

Best,

 

Will

Thanks Will, i will look at Dan's document and report back.

 

Pretty sure it's something i'm missing, but if not i will try a reinstall

 

Regards,

 

Edit. Cannot find in Avsim Library. Could you give me file name please.

Thanks Will, i will look at Dan's document and report back.

 

Pretty sure it's something i'm missing, but if not i will try a reinstall

 

Regards,

 

Edit. Cannot find in Avsim Library. Could you give me file name please.

 

Hi Rick,

 

Look here:

 

http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=dan+hat&CatID=root&Go=Search

 

He has created a folder called PMDG 737-700NGX WL with all the scripts....if you want to use it with the 737-800NGX then just change the name of the folder to 737-800 or whatever series it is, and follow the instructions....it is pretty good...you even get emergency procedures, etc.

 

Hopefully he will release a new version soon to cater for the more enhanced commands released in the last update.

Here is where i am right now:

 

If i speak: "Cockpit to ground" I get a reply asking me what they can do for me and that is where it ends.

 

If i make any request, the only person that might reply is my F.O. depending on what i request. The only way to get GSX to say anything to me is if i say cockpit to ground.

Rick, what happens when you press ctl-f12??

 

Are you given the GSX menu or does it give you a choice of gates??

 

GSX can be a bit fickle, if the afcad did not agree with your aircraft positioning, GSX will not provide you or MCE with the menu necessary.

 

I did a flight last night in the simcheck A300 and it worked perfectly.

Rick, what happens when you press ctl-f12??

 

Are you given the GSX menu or does it give you a choice of gates??

 

GSX can be a bit fickle, if the afcad did not agree with your aircraft positioning, GSX will not provide you or MCE with the menu necessary.

 

I did a flight last night in the simcheck A300 and it worked perfectly.

Yes i noticed (especially at EHAM) that if i am not perfectly aligned at the gate, i will get a list of gates.

 

The main problem is that i just cannot get GSX to work on voice command, If i use the buttons as i did before i used MCE, then GSX works perfectly.

 

I just can't get MCE to interact with GSX, other than the intial response to "Cockpit To Ground"

 

Regards,

 

Edit. As a matter of interest, what "exactly" do you do or say immediately after contacting ground, whether it be for pushback or catering or whatever?

Rick

 

From another thread here(just above this one!)

 

From FS++

 

It might help

 

 

Currently, only joystick buttons 1 to 12 are accepted for PTT. The reason, many people are using CH throttle quadrant which has buttons 13 to 16 always on.

 

A similar issue arises with some Saitek joysticks that have some ALWAYS ON buttons. When you try to assign a different one through the UI, you simply can’t, because there is already one showing as pressed.

 

There is a work around though.

 

Open your mce.ini config file, found in

C:\Users\your_user_name\AppData\Roaming\Multi Crew Experience\mce.ini

 

Look at the [Joypad] section.

 

Leave the listed joystick name as is, and change “JoyButton=11” to “JoyButton=whatever_number_from_1_to_12”

 

Save the file.

 

It’s crucial to have the PTT set-up properly, otherwise if the assigned button registers as pressed, all voice commands for talking to FO will be disabled, and you would only be able to talk to ATC then.

 

Regarding GSX interfacing…

 

Nothing will work, until the GSX menu can show options related to various requests for catering, fuel and boarding.

 

Gate selection is not currently supported.

 

If you don’t have the relevant menu, chances are you aren’t parked properly.

 

There are specific airports where you may need to make the first menu selection manually, as John pointed out.

 

Simon (or any other agent) will handle requests for catering, fuel and boarding.

 

The idea is that like in the real world, you speak to the ramp agent, and he will do the rest.

 

Example, “Simon we need catering”. MCE will then make the menu selection, and when the catering van turns up, the purser will automatically open the service doors.

 

Another example. Say “Simon we’d like to start boarding”, and presto things happen.

 

Read GSX&AES commands document.

Start->All Programs->Multi Crew Experience->GSX&AES document.

 

MCE reads the info that GSX displays in the green bar (only reads it). It’s almost like having an SDK without Umberto needing to write one.

 

GSX tells you, open doors, MCE purser will do it

GSX tells you, close doors X, Y, purser will do it

GSX tells you, boarding has started, and mechanic will open the cargo doors.

Etc…

Etc…

 

Opening and closing doors is a challenge because it has to be done for every complex supported aircraft. We have done it for a number of aircraft, but you may come across one where the purser might not know how to handle the doors.

 

Requests for pushback have to be made to the mechanic.

 

You need to first establish contact with mechanic. Say “Cockpit to ground” (or any other dozen variations, see manual).

 

When ready for pushback say, “ground, are you ready for pushback”

 

When you want the push to happen say, “ground pushback left” or “ground pushback to the right”.

 

At some stage MCE mechanic will transfer you to GSX mechanic. He will assist you with start-up though. When pushback is complete, don’t forget to release him.

 

Say, “ground you may leave now”

Hi Gerald.

Thank you for a realy detailed reply. I will try the dialog sugestions you have listed and see how i do. Even though this is a great piece of software you have ceated here, it still presents a large learning curve for me, so i'm afraid i will be bugging you and the rest of the guys on this forum for a while yet.

Thanks to all for your patience.

 

Regards,

Nice.