Because I like things compact I cramped the 4 page checklist of the RealAir Lancair Legacy onto one A4 and also added relevant information from the Flying Guide to it (desired settings, various notes, etc.): hence the 'enhanced' in the topic title. Maybe some of you might find it handy too so I decided to post it here.

 

Please let me know if I used wrong descriptions or if there are any mistakes in it!

 

EDIT

New and definitive version added to this post.

Ah! The same great work now here Jeroen ;-) Great !!!! I just got it - the Legacy !!!!

JvE

 

Thanks for that!

 

Question for both of you:

 

As I never got past the free version of 'Flight' and I know you guys were very impressed with the flight modelling of the RV6 and Maule etc, how do you feel the Legacy in FSX compares?

 

I realize they are very different in terms of RW performance, but I have yet to experience anything better than the feeling of flight from a sim with the Legacy.

GHall,

 

my biggest problem with the evaluation I did from FLIGHT was that there were more than 5 yrs since I last started FSX, back then I had just a few good add-ons and I didn't recall how they performed and, above all, my system simply couldn't run FSX properly.

 

Last night I did a bunch of tests on the Maule - default Maule - in FSX, just to find out that the goods and the were already there is as far as FDs go, and in fact after the latest patch the FLIGHT Maule got even worse.

 

Post stall performance is poor in the FSX version, just as with many default airplanes, but good add-ons proof that it's possible to get what we had in FLIGHT (RealAIr, A2A, etc...), so, the real big difference in FLIGHT was probably the smoothness, the better turbulence effects, and the new physics effects that allowed for instance for drag caused by an opened door.

 

Running FSX after years away from it in a i5 2500, 8GB RAM, 1GB Geeforce 450 GTX, Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit revealed a completely new World to me :-)

 

Conclusion - I was overwhelmed (as I sometimes easily get...) with MS FLIGHT.

 

That said, indeed there are very good graphics advances in MS FLIGHT, but even the amount of simulated/operational systems is much better in FSX.

 

I didn't yet install the Legacy - only tomorrow night :-(

 

I did install the DiscusX glider, and whow!!!!

Nice. It'd be good if you could get Vx and Vy in there as well. (Stuff I, typically, pencil in.)

 

Vx - 100 KIAS

Vy - 135 KIAS

 

I don't fly with climb rates in mind since temperature can affect that. 99% of my initial climbs are at Vy. You should post this over at the owner's club as well.

J comm It is nice to see that your enthusiasm for simulated flight is also applied to fsx and x plane I look forward to more of it.

Nice to see others from Flight moving on over to FSX.. When I first ran Flight it also was after years of shelving FSX. Like Jcomm mentioned though when I tried out FSX again and bought a few of the highly spoke about addon planes (Turbine Duke) it was like a whole new world. I at some point actually said to myself "I didn't know FSX could be this good, boy do I have some catching up to do." :lol: I moved on to Prepar3D but it's the same difference more or less.

 

Hey Jeroen I dig the condensed checklist.. Thank you! Is it possible in portrait? These single page checklists would be ideal to load up on PDFKneeboard but it would work better in portrait. Just a thought. ;)

Nice. It'd be good if you could get Vx and Vy in there as well. (Stuff I, typically, pencil in.)

 

Something like this? I left the 2.000-2.200 in it. I'll post it at the club when it is really finished. (Or should I have done that the other way around?)

Oops. I'd put that under takeoff. Vx and Vy are for when you're at takeoff settings with power and prop. When you are on initial climb you reduce power which is where the 2000-2200 fpm would kick in. Sorry if I confused.

Oops. I'd put that under takeoff. Vx and Vy are for when you're at takeoff settings with power and prop. When you are on initial climb you reduce power which is where the 2000-2200 fpm would kick in. Sorry if I confused.

 

Greg, but this was in FLIGHT or on the Lancair Legacy? And, if it is the Legacy, you're saying it does not match these specs, or that it does? I do not have it installed yet.....

 

J comm It is nice to see that your enthusiasm for simulated flight is also applied to fsx and x plane I look forward to more of it.

 

I'm a fan of any good sim - that's my problem. I love ELITE v8, even if after all this years the graphics look really outdated, I dream of Aerowinx PSX (if it ever gets released...), I monitor xplane and itend to give xplane10 a fair try (last version I bought was v8), I also monitor FlightGear (looking fwd for v2.8 soon) and Prepar3d - waiting for what patch 1.4 brings, and trying to figure out what v2.0 might be...

 

I have finally been able to get Condor running on my new rig - and that's a great soaring simulator!!! But I also like Silent Wings, and even SFS (Soaring Flight Simulator... very old...).

 

Well... That's why I quit flight simulation in 2006/2007... It was consuming way to much space/time/money in my life... and that's also one of the things that was attracting me in MS FLIGHT - easy instal/play, discipline in acquisitions - only a DLC per month..., possibility of a very brilliant future... well...

 

Fact is, yesterday I endend up very happy now with FSX Gold Edition and will try to keep my hangar moderate, but populated with top products ;-)

Greg, but this was in FLIGHT or on the Lancair Legacy? And, if it is the Legacy, you're saying it does not match these specs, or that it does? I do not have it installed yet.....

 

It's the right Vx and Vy. On the checklist he created 'Initial Climb' starts with reducing power. If you're trying to clear obstacles, you really want to be climbing at Vx before you reduce power. Vy...depends on different things. I usually pop off the runway and let the aircraft accelerate to a few knots below Vx or Vy (whichever one) and then lift the nose to hold that speed. Once I'm clear of obstacles, If I'm climbing at Vx, I put the nose down to Vy. I hold that until 800-1000 ft. AGL and then just do what I'm going to do.

 

BTW, I loved some of your posts on the Flight thread. Very interesting thoughts.

It's the right Vx and Vy.

 

Ah! Ok! ;-)

 

BTW, I loved some of your posts on the Flight thread. Very interesting thoughts.

 

Thx... :-) Looking forward to share precious information regarding FSX here at the FSX forum... It was great starting with my first post, soon after having downloaded FSX Golden and trying to apply what wasn't necessary - SP1 and SP2... Duh! Thankfully I received prompt help from the forum members :-)

Oops. I'd put that under takeoff. Vx and Vy are for when you're at takeoff settings with power and prop. When you are on initial climb you reduce power which is where the 2000-2200 fpm would kick in. Sorry if I confused.

 

Ah, okay, I understand now. Thanks for the explanation, I didn't know that. I think I should put it right after ROTATE...?

 

EDIT

Did a flight with my own checklist: think I will add FUEL BOOST PUMP 'on' during final approach (between DESCENT RATE and AT TRESHOLD) and I will move FUEL BOOST PUMP 'off' to directly after landing, so before LIGHTS and FLAPS (which btw I will switch). And before turning off the battery I will add ALTERNATOR SWITCH 'off': I see that one is missing (from the RealAir lists too). Maybe it's all nitpicking but I like these little changes. It will have to wait until tomorrow because I don't have the document with me here...

Ah, okay, I understand now. Thanks for the explanation, I didn't know that. I think I should put it right after ROTATE...?

 

EDIT

Did a flight with my own checklist: think I will add FUEL BOOST PUMP 'on' during final approach (between DESCENT RATE and AT TRESHOLD) and I will move FUEL BOOST PUMP 'off' to directly after landing, so before LIGHTS and FLAPS (which btw I will switch). And before turning off the battery I will add ALTERNATOR SWITCH 'off': I see that one is missing (from the RealAir lists too). Maybe it's all nitpicking but I like these little changes. It will have to wait until tomorrow because I don't have the document with me here...

 

After ROTATE...ya...that'd be a good spot. I don't think you use the fuel boost pump for landing (unless, perhaps, fuel flow is having a problem of some kind?). The other change seems good.

 

Something else I thought I would mention. I was reading on a RW Lancair board and saw a comment that someone made that I thought was very practical. Before takeoff, make an 'L' sweep of the aircraft settings...like this:

 

Start the 'L' at the canopy handle making sure it's closed. (Apparently, it gets hot inside the canopy so people accidentally leave it open and this has caused some crashes.) Then move your eyes forward on the center console checking Trim, Fuel Selector, Prop, Mixture. Then start at the Flaps and move left for the bottom of the 'L'. Checking each switch.

 

I like to finish by sweeping up checking Elevator Trim and one last check of engine instruments. This also seems like a good procedure to repeat at every major change...Cruise, Descent...places like that.

I don't think you use the fuel boost pump for landing (unless, perhaps, fuel flow is having a problem of some kind?).

Ah, yes, I thought of this because the RealAir checklist shows FUEL BOOST PUMP 'off' in the end, but that's probably just for a check. I also seem to remember some planes or pilots do use the pump during take offs and landings, but probably not needed in this plane.