Works for me!Thanks for an outstanding aircraft, Fabio. All your team members have done an exceptional job with a great aircraft!Mark

This, however, goes far beyond just holding brakes at full power. I put the original airfile up and ran AFSD, a well-recognized FDE design tool, and the thrust produced at very low speeds on the ground (actually the critical parameter is low propeller advance ratios) was more than double the thrust produced at 80 KIAS due to the table 511 curves. I was unable to hold the brakes with as little as 1500 ft-lbs of torque, depending on the wind component, which of course affects the advance ratio and thus the prop efficiency & thrust. Some folks have reported being unable to hold the brakes with idle power set. Surely we're not arguing that to be correct, are we?As another measure, I was able to get airborne at MTOGW in ~1000 ft at sea level/STP/no wind...I'm sure when I find some complete perf data for the B200 I'll find that takeoff roll at 12500 lbs is supposed to be a bit more...gut feel is around twice that.At any rate, I offer up what I consider to be a more realistic low-speed performance option to those who may also feel that takeoffs with the stock airfile too closely resemble a cat shot off an aircraft carrier... Use it, don't use it, matters not to me. I made the changes for my own benefit and offer them to others for free.CheersBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300Washington, DC

Hey Bob. Just curious. You were able o get the KIng Air off in 1000 feet. I have flown this plane quite often, being a beta tester and real king air pilot, and i have never come close to 1000 feet. Strange.

Neither have I - One other comment for you all - and someone jump in here if I'm wrong:The problem with creeping on the ground - to taxi the real bird, props are kept feathered usually, throttle is set to a specific percentage (I think the manual states a fairly high % power, but I've been using a low throttle setting) and the plane will not move if the props are feathered, even with the brakes OFF. Then, to taxi, the pitch is increased slightly, allowing very slow acceleration and speed is controlled with the props not the throttle.Right?Best,sg

Yep...slewed the airplane to brick 1 on the PHNL reef runway, with no wind, temp 15 deg C, and 29.92 in press. Ran up the power with the brakes set, and released brakes upon reaching 2200 ft-lbs of torque. (the acft was already moving at brake release) Rotated at 90 KIAS, paused the sim, switched to spot view, and observed it lift off at 1050 ft.CheersBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300Washington, DC

SG;No, I don't think that's correct. I don't want to see a feathered prop unless the engine is shut down or is about to be shut down, except during a test perhaps.Not sure what you mean by "throttle" in this context, or by "% power" There is no throttle...there's a power lever, a prop lever, and a condition lever. We measure the thrust produced indirectly in terms of torque (in ft-lbs) and this is controlled with the power lever. The prop levers control prop governing speed (not prop speed itself). We measure turbine speed (not power) in percent. There is no directly-readable measurement of "power" in percent in this acft. So you've lost me on exactly what it is you're doing.Perhaps you're confusing the concept of feathering with keeping the props in the beta range, which is a fairly flat blade angle that produces little or no thrust. That is done with the power levers, not the prop controls or the condition levers...in fact I believe in most PT6 powered acft that the prop has to be in full-fwd to get the throttle to beta or reverse (any position beyond the flight idle gate).BTW, one possible explanation for the takeoff distance differences is that I use 40% flaps, as in the real acft. An interesting blow-by-blow account of a flight in a B200 can be found here: http://www.airnews.co.za/showstory.asp?id=137I noted that with an 11,700 lb acft, he used just under half of the 4232' rwy for his 40% flap takeoff roll.CheersBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300Washington, DC

Thanks for that description and link, Bob - and for the correction! I didn't mean to confuse anyone else - by throttle, I meant FS9's throttle axis, which is the Power lever here. I had been using both the power lever and the prop lever to get less on the ground thrust and more realistic taxi performance, but I see the error there...Thanks again.Best,sg

I already burnt up 3 engines so far! :)

Hi Bob,Thanks for the NAV fix.Yesterday I noticed it too during a NAV intercept, the A/P was chasing the CDI.Egbert

>Performance seems to be on par with the Meridian. You do need>some horsepower to run it full bore but not anything unusual>nowadays:)George and others:OK, I took the leap and got it. The only concern I have is in the 2D PIC cockpit. My frames really go down with a corresponding slight stutter. Down to about 12, while in the Citation X I am getting 16-17 without stutter. I did a trial with the Finnish panel, and am up to 17, so what is in the package panel or gauges that slows my machine so significantly? Keith

Hey Keith,Please visit our support forum or Live Help for this.

Hi,this King Air is excellent!!! There are moments, where I forget that this is a simulator - so close to reality. The sound - indescibable! And it

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I posted a new version of my FDE patch for the AeroWorx B200 FDE. The patch requires a virgin copy of the original AeroWorx airfile, so if you've arleady installed my first one, you'll need to copy the original awx.b200.air file back before applying the new patch.This one has a revised table 511 for low-speed prop performance, and adds a revised table 1508 to permit correct operation of the engines in low-idle. The AeroWorx FDE stops the props completely when the condition lever is placed in the low-idle position...this change will run the props at a realistic low-idle torque, allowing much more controlled ground ops (as in the real world).The patch is at: http://home.comcast.net/~gulfstream-v/index.htmlEnjoyBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300Washington, DC

I usually don't buy add-on aircraft that are over $20, but am toying with this one. I'm a little concerned about frame rates though. Can anyone comment that have a lower end computer? And no, I don't plan to upgrade anything yet. AMD 1.4, ATI 9500 Pro, 512 DDR RAMThanks,Todd