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777 autobrake settings "max auto"

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If you look at the autobrake knob for the 777 the maximum setting is called "max auto". What does the 'auto' aspect effect?

Mitch Brown

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Maximum Autobrake. A step up from 4 would imagine its a pretty hard braking for short runways.

Randy Swofford

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Maximum Autobrake. A step up from 4 would imagine its a pretty hard braking for short runways.

 

I understand the Max part, its the word auto that I'm not sure of. On the 737 it just says Max so Im just wondering if the word auto means something more than just saying maximum autobrakes.

Mitch Brown

Private Pilot | Aerospace Engineering Major

Just Autobrake.

Randy Swofford

It's simply a step up from Autobrake four.

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- Luke Pabari

Something to add, my friend that flies the fleet says maximum manual braking is harder than Max Auto.

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- Luke Pabari

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Something to add, my friend that flies the fleet says maximum manual braking is harder than Max Auto.

 

That's correct.

 

Max manual breaking is 'better' than max auto brake

Alex Ridge

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That's correct.

 

Max manual breaking is 'better' than max auto brake

 

If the system provides maximum braking pressure then how can a pilot do any better? He can't exceed the maximum pressure that the hydraulic system can handle.

Alex Jevdic KORD/KHOT/KPWK

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It doesn't use the maximum potential of the brakes it is Maximum under Autobraking. Manual braking can provide quite a bit more for emergencies I would imagine.

Randy Swofford

If the system provides maximum braking pressure then how can a pilot do any better? He can't exceed the maximum pressure that the hydraulic system can handle.

 

Probably the computer won't apply full pressure. It's true that max manual is more powerful than max auto. You can find that statement in 777 manual.

David Chen

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If the system provides maximum braking pressure then how can a pilot do any better? He can't exceed the maximum pressure that the hydraulic system can handle.

 

Because max auto is not the maximum that the aircraft potentially has.

 

Added to max reverse thrust [rarely used], one would get the minimum stopping distance

Alex Ridge

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Because max auto is not the maximum that the aircraft potentially has.

 

Added to max reverse thrust [rarely used], one would get the minimum stopping distance

 

I don't have the manual but I guess it varies with aircraft. I'm only talking about braking pressure not reversers or other stopping tools.

Alex Jevdic KORD/KHOT/KPWK

A<380 love at first flight

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I don't have the manual but I guess it varies with aircraft. I'm only talking about braking pressure not reversers or other stopping tools.

 

Remember that:

 

If the scenario is autobrakes 2 and the aircraft is on the runway, if one selects full reverse, then the brake pressure will reduce.

 

So full reverse only reduces the load on the 'auto' brakes, it doesn't reduce the stopping distance.

Alex Ridge

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Remember that:

 

If the scenario is autobrakes 2 and the aircraft is on the runway, if one selects full reverse, then the brake pressure will reduce.

 

So full reverse only reduces the load on the 'auto' brakes, it doesn't reduce the stopping distance.

 

I understand how the logic works but I'm talking about a scenerio where the reversers won't function for whatever reason amd all you have are the brakes and spoilers.

Alex Jevdic KORD/KHOT/KPWK

A<380 love at first flight

I understand the Max part, its the word auto that I'm not sure of. On the 737 it just says Max so Im just wondering if the word auto means something more than just saying maximum autobrakes.

 

Boeing is not consistent between their different planes. For example the 737 has Level Change button where the 777 is Flight Level Change. The 737 has a Fasten Belts switch where the 777 is Seat Belts. That's just two things off the top of my head.

Tom Landry

 

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