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interesting comparison

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I ran a comparison test this morning with the competitions B-767 and the PDMG 737 NGX. The competition's 767 would not follow a descent profile as published in the FMC. I thought it might be user error so I wanted to run a comparison with the PDMG 737 to see if it was me or the other developer. The flight was from KSEA to KSFO, using the GOLDN6 arrival into SFO. I put the same information and loaded both planes with appropriate fuel and payload. I filled in the descent forecast with the appropriate info. as it developed on both flights. The competition's 767 could not follow attitudes restrictions or speeds. Once a leg was completed it wanted to constantly jump back to that leg rather then follow the next descent point (VNAV) as published. I ended up constantly hand holding the plane all the way down using the V/S and manually entering all the speed restrictions as I went along. LNAV worked fine. Without mentioning names, those who have this product can guess the developer with this decription of problems.

I compared that with the PDMG 737NGX. Same sids, route, and stars. The PDMG followed the route perfected minding all speed and altitude restrictions without a flaw. I made a couple late changes in the FMC and it compensated for my errors perfectly. I was pretty much hands off all the way thru touch down. No interventions nessicary. The 737 followed everthing as published on the charts.

I think PDMG does an outstanding job and is way above any other developer out there. Yes, there are some bugs as with all planes of this complexity but these issues certain are not deal breakers and can be dealt with. Not to mention the staff really understands the importance of fast and accurate customer service. All us simmers are fortunate for have such a good developer. Great job PDMG. Looking forward to your next product. I'll be sparing myself the aggravation of buying others' products and simply wait for yours.

Brian Green

Right with you mate.

 

PMDG is outstanding in all aspects, hats off to Robert, Ryan, and all the others on the team. :rolleyes: It's amazing how much time and effort they can spend on one project, but needless to say we all love their works

FS2004 Forever

I'll third those sentiments.

Jason

Banner_FS2Crew_NGX_Driver.jpg

 

*** Disclaimer: Any resemblence of my views & tech advice to reality are purely coincidental. No living beings or real aircraft where harmed in the making. ***

I really love my only PMDG product, the B747 (especially with the McPhat Studios repaints). By the way, you are spelling PMDG incorrectly.

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I stand corrected. PMDG. Thank you.

Brian Green

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I ran a comparison test this morning with the competitions B-767 and the PMDG 737 NGX. The competition's 767 would not follow a descent profile as published in the FMC. I thought it might be user error so I wanted to run a comparison with the PMDG 737 to see if it was me or the other developer. The flight was from KSEA to KSFO, using the GOLDN6 arrival into SFO. I put the same information and loaded both planes with appropriate fuel and payload. I filled in the descent forecast with the appropriate info. as it developed on both flights. The competition's 767 could not follow attitudes restrictions or speeds. Once a leg was completed it wanted to constantly jump back to that leg rather then follow the next descent point (VNAV) as published. I ended up constantly hand holding the plane all the way down using the V/S and manually entering all the speed restrictions as I went along. LNAV worked fine. Without mentioning names, those who have this product can guess the developer with this decription of problems.

I compared that with the PDMG 737NGX. Same sids, route, and stars. The PMDG followed the route perfected minding all speed and altitude restrictions without a flaw. I made a couple late changes in the FMC and it compensated for my errors perfectly. I was pretty much hands off all the way thru touch down. No interventions nessicary. The 737 followed everthing as published on the charts.

I think PDMG does an outstanding job and is way above any other developer out there. Yes, there are some bugs as with all planes of this complexity but these issues certain are not deal breakers and can be dealt with. Not to mention the staff really understands the importance of fast and accurate customer service. All us simmers are fortunate for have such a good developer. Great job PMDG. Looking forward to your next product. I'll be sparing myself the aggravation of buying others' products and simply wait for yours.

Brian Green

The NGX is great on a VNAV descent isn't it? Superb. Same as the LDS767 which also handles it beautifully so I am not sure whether that aircraft is being referred to. I have never had a problem with it. The only aircraft I have difficulties with is the PMDG 747X as above 10,000 ft in VNAV descent the VS bounces around between -3600 and 1800 fpm down. And, no, it is not the weather as there is none set and I do not have any weather programs. From the cruise I have to use FLCH down to 10,000 and then re-engage VNAV. Annoying as otherwise it is still a great plane - any word about V2 by the way?

 

Gerry

Same as the LDS767 which also handles it beautifully so I am not sure whether that aircraft is being referred to.

 

I'll give you a hint.Their initials are CS

Jarrad Symes

Perph, Western Australia

I'll give you a hint.Their initials are CS

I seen some cs products on my friend's computer, they are pretty good in graphic, but in the simulation they have a lot to do.

They prefer to push on graphic as a lot people want it istead of a good simulation.

They are not bad, but far from perfection.

Regards

Andrea Daviero

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Jarrad,

You guessed it. If you own it, do you experience issues like that?

Brian Green

Jarrad,

You guessed it. If you own it, do you experience issues like that?

 

I know I do.

 

I own the CS 757, 767, 707, 777, and 737, and all (except the 777, though I only say this because it is not fully complete yet, and the 737 and 707 because they do not have VNAV options) experience VNAV problems holding an established FMC decent and especially bad when I need to modify the descent vertical speed and or speed.

FS2004 Forever

The PMDG 737NGX is unparalleled. Next month when the FlightSimLabs Airbus A320 is released, the PMDG will have an extremely high-fidelity sister aircraft in our hangars, but at the end of the day the NGX will still be Queen of the Skies.

 

As a complete and total aside, I've once cancelled a flight in my Cessna 172 because I wanted to fly the NGX SP1c. I may have 2.5 fewer hours in my log book, but I'd say it was worth it. :P

Take-offs are optional, landings are mandatory.
The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire.
To make a small fortune in aviation you must start with a large fortune.

There's nothing less important than the runway behind you and the altitude above you.
It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, than in the air wishing you were on the ground.

While I am looking forward to the FSL A320, I hope the visual model meets the standards of that of the Airbus X. I love the dirtiness of the Airbus X liveries. I have always liked the Airbus A320 more than the Boeing B737, so I also hope that the systems modelling of the FSL A320 will be up to the standards of PMDG.

Jarrad,

You guessed it. If you own it, do you experience issues like that?

 

Honestly, I would not have a clue. I handle descents through lvl change/ vs control in most planes.

Jarrad Symes

Perph, Western Australia

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