October 26, 201213 yr Author and here is the cfg in use: [AContain] LabelColor=FFFF0000 LabelDelay=1000 ShowLabelAirline=0 ShowLabelAirlineAndFlightNumber=0 ShowLabelAirspeed=0 ShowLabelAltitude=1 ShowLabelContainerId=0 ShowLabelDistance=1 ShowLabelFlightPlan=0 ShowLabelHeading=0 ShowLabelManufacturer=1 ShowLabelModel=1 ShowLabels=0 ShowLabelTailNumber=0 ShowUserLabel=0 [ATC] AutoOpenAirTrafficWindow=1 COMM_MSG_AI_ATC_COLOR=FFFF7840 COMM_MSG_ATC_AI_COLOR=FF00FF00 COMM_MSG_ATC_USER_COLOR=FFB6FFB6 COMM_MSG_NONE_COLOR=FFFFFFFF COMM_MSG_USER_ATC_COLOR=FFFFD21B PilotVoice=0 ShowATCText=1 UsePilotVoice=1 [CONTROLS] Controls_Current=Standard Controls_Default=Standard KBDAIL=64 KBDELEV=64 KBDRUD=64 STICK_SENSITIVITY_MODE=0 //FSUIPC recommended [Display] ActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=0,28,140,64 ActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255 BLOOM_EFFECTS=0 ChangeTime=4.000000 InfoBrakesEnable=True InfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128 InfoLowerLeftTextColor=255,255,255 InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128 InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255 InfoOverspeedEnable=True InfoParkingBrakesEnable=True InfoPauseEnable=True InfoSlewEnable=True InfoStallEnable=True InfoUpperRightBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0 InfoUpperRightTextColor=255,0,0 NonActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=24,33,87,64 NonActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255 RUNWAY_LIGHTS_APPROACH_SCALAR=0.65 //0.9 RUNWAY_LIGHTS_STROBE_SCALAR=0.7 //1.2 RUNWAY_LIGHTS_SURFACE_SCALAR=0.75 //1.0 RUNWAY_LIGHTS_VASI_SCALAR=0.75 //0.8 SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1 TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=80 TransitionTime=4.000000 UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=30 WideViewAspect=True [DynamicHeadMovement] HeadMoveTimeConstant=1.000000 LonAccelOnHeadLon=-0.020000 LonAccelOnHeadPitch=-0.010000 MaxHeadAngle=5.000000 MaxHeadOffset=0.300000 RollAccelOnHeadLat=0.010000 RollAccelOnHeadRoll=0.100000 YawAccelOnHeadLat=-0.100000 [FACILITIES] CITY= COUNTRY= GTL_BUTTON=1244 STATE= [FlightPlanMap] LineWidth=2 show_ac_twr=1 SHOW_AIRPORTS=1 SHOW_AIRSPACE=1 show_airways=1 SHOW_APPROACHES=1 SHOW_DATATAGS=1 SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1 SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=1 SHOW_JET=1 show_markers=1 SHOW_NDBS=1 SHOW_TERRAIN=1 SHOW_VICTOR=1 show_volume_boundaries=1 SHOW_VORS=1 show_waypoints=1 SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=0 SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1 [GRAPHICS] AC_SELF_SHADOW=0 AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1 AIRCRAFT_SHADOWS=1 COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1 D3D10=0 EFFECTS_QUALITY=2 ForceFullScreenVSync=1 ForceWindowedVSync=1 GROUND_SHADOWS=0 HIGHMEMFIX=1 IMAGE_QUALITY=0 LANDING_LIGHTS=1 NUM_LIGHTS=8 See_Self=1 SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED=1693458432 SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED_10=1693458432 TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=1024 TEXTURE_QUALITY=3 Text_Scroll=1 MultiSamplesPerPixel=8 // 4, Must have for good AA MultiSampleQuality=8 // Can be 4 for better performance [iNTERNATIONAL] ASLAT=2 ASLON=1 MEASURE=1 [Main] DisablePreload=1 HideMenuFullscreen=1 HideMenuNormal=0 Location=440,130,1480,908,\\.\DISPLAY1 Maximized=2 PerfBucket=7 ProcSpeed=9771 SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\Airplanes SimObjectPaths.1=SimObjects\Rotorcraft SimObjectPaths.2=SimObjects\GroundVehicles SimObjectPaths.3=SimObjects\Boats SimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\Animals SimObjectPaths.5=SimObjects\Misc SimObjectPaths.6=SimObjects\IVAO_MTL User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.20 [MAPVIEW_MAP] SHOW_AIRPORTS=1 SHOW_AIRSPACE=1 SHOW_APPROACHES=1 SHOW_DATATAGS=1 SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1 show_flight_history=1 SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=1 SHOW_JET=1 SHOW_NDBS=1 SHOW_TERRAIN=1 SHOW_VICTOR=1 SHOW_VORS=1 SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=0 SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1 [Misc] Com_Rate=7 [PANELS] DEFAULT_VIEW=1 IMAGE_QUALITY=1 PANEL_MASKING=1 PANEL_OPACITY=100 PANEL_STRETCHING=1 QUICKTIPS=1 UNITS_OF_MEASURE=1 [PointOfInterestSystem] CycleSetting=0 [REALISM] AutoCoord=False AutoTrim=False CrashDetection=True CrashTolerance=1.000000 CrashWithDyn=True GEffect=True General=1.000000 GyroDrift=True GyroEffect=0.710000 ManualLights=True PFactor=0.710000 RealMixture=True StressDamage=True Torque=0.710000 TrueAirspeed=False UnlimitedFuel=False [RWW_WEATHER_MAP] SHOW_AIRPORTS=1 SHOW_AIRSPACE=1 SHOW_APPROACHES=1 SHOW_DATATAGS=1 SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1 SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=1 SHOW_JET=1 SHOW_NDBS=1 SHOW_TERRAIN=1 SHOW_VICTOR=1 SHOW_VORS=1 SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1 SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1 [sCENERY] DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1 IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=5 LENSFLARE=1 [sIM] SYSCLOCK=1 [slewTextInfo.1] AirSpeed=1,5 Altitude=1,3 Heading=1,4 Latitude=1,1 Longitude=1,2 [slewTextInfo.2] FrameRate=1,1 LockedFrameRate=1,2 [slewTextInfo.3] AirSpeed=1,5 Altitude=1,3 FrameRate=2,1 Heading=1,4 Latitude=1,1 LockedFrameRate=2,2 Longitude=1,2 [sOUND] AmbientUI=0 AmbientUIMusic=FSX01 AmbientUIMusicVolume=-6.000000 PrimaryDevice={DEF00000-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03} SOUND=1 SOUND_FADER1=0.500000 SOUND_FADER2=0.500000 SOUND_FADER3=0.750000 SOUND_FADER4=1.000000 SOUND_LOD=0 SOUND_QUALITY=2 UISound=1 VoiceDevice={DEF00002-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03} [sTARTUP] DEMO=0 LoadWindow=1 SHOW_OPENING_SCREEN=1 STARTUP_DEMO= [TERRAIN] AUTOGEN_DENSITY=4 DETAIL_TEXTURE=1 LOD_RADIUS=5.500000 MESH_COMPLEXITY=100 MESH_RESOLUTION=25 TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=29 WATER_EFFECTS=4 [TextInfo.1] AirSpeed=1,5 Altitude=1,3 Heading=1,4 Latitude=1,1 Longitude=1,2 WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6 [TextInfo.2] AverageFrameRate=1,3 FrameRate=1,1 FuelPercentage=1,5 GForce=1,4 LockedFrameRate=1,2 [TextInfo.3] AirSpeed=1,5 Altitude=1,3 AverageFrameRate=2,3 FrameRate=2,1 FuelPercentage=2,5 GForce=2,4 Heading=1,4 Latitude=1,1 LockedFrameRate=2,2 Longitude=1,2 WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6 [TrafficManager] AirlineDensity=0 AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=0 FreewayDensity=0 GADensity=0 IFROnly=0 LeisureBoatsDensity=30 ShipsAndFerriesDensity=30 [uSERINTERFACE] DisplayFuelAsWeight=1 Map_Orientation=1 OpenATCOnCreate=0 PageID=1 PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=0 PROMPT_ON_EXIT=1 SelectAircraftManufacturer=All SelectAircraftPublisher=All SelectAircraftType=All ShowAllACPaintSchemes=1 SHOW_MISSION_CAPTIONS=0 SITUATION=c:\users\lounge\documents\flight simulator x files\std.FLT [VirtualCopilot] VirtualCopilotActive=1 [Weather] AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1 CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=10 CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=6 DETAILED_CLOUDS=1 DisableTurbulence=0 DownloadWindsAloft=1 DynamicWeather=0 MaxGustRampSpeed=200 MaxGustTime=500 MaxVarRampSpeed=75 MaxVarTime=50 MinGustRampSpeed=1 MinGustTime=10 MinVarRampSpeed=10 MinVarTime=5 THERMAL_VISUALS=1 TurbulenceScale=1.000000 WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0 WeatherServerAddress=fs2k.zone.com WeatherServerPort=80 WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1 [WeatherMap] SHOW_AIRPORTS=0 SHOW_VORS=0 SHOW_NDBS=0 SHOW_APPROACHES=0 SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=0 SHOW_VICTOR=0 SHOW_JET=0 SHOW_AIRSPACE=0 SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1 SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1 SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1 SHOW_DATATAGS=1 SHOW_TERRAIN=1 [VisualFX] WindowPos=0,0 AlwaysOnTop=0 [bUFFERPOOLS] UsePools=1 Poolsize=8388608 RejectThreshold=262144 [DISPLAY.Device.ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series.0] Mode=1920x1080x32 Anisotropic=1 [DISPLAY.Device.ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series.1] Mode=1280x1024x32 [MULTIPLAYER] AccoutUsername=abax2000 condAccoutPassword=0 DefaultLobby=Free Flight MaxPlayers=2 PublicOnLAN=0 AllowChangeAircraft=0 VoiceVolume=2.000000 EnableShare=1 WeatherString=Real-world weather (updates)
October 27, 201213 yr Hi abax: Thanks for posting this: The cfg you are showing here is for DX9: Look in the section [Graphics] Find the line D3D10=0 .. This should read D3D10=1 The rest of the cfg looks "ok", but it's hard to say, without knowing the proc speed: your sig says 3.3gig, but is it overclocked at all?. What does "RAM 4" mean? Here we are looking for the make, model and timings of your ram, in order that we can estimate the potential performance of the pc. You can get this by downloading a very small application called "CPU-Z" from http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html When you run this, you will see a tab called "Memory" and another called "SPD". Also the first screen will give you the running speed of your processor. Sooo, my friend - make the D3D10 change to the fsx.cfg, and also a couple of suggestions, if I may - under [Terrain], reduce the LOD_Radius to 3.500, under [Weather], reduce the CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY down to 6 or 7:, under [Traffic], reduce the ship & boats to perhaps 15 each. These are very hard on the frame rate - particularly with a low-end system. Then we shall see what we can do for you, to make it work! All the Best, pj i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.
October 27, 201213 yr Author Hi PaulJ, Of course it is dx9 (this is currently operating) but has all the necessary additions for DX10 (if I understtand correctly the documentation). And yes, when I try dx10, I press the "DX10 preview" button. With all due respect, I am not looking for general tuning tips right now, but just for proper settings for dx10 to work (even at 10fps), which is a matter of GPU and software (driver + FSX sp2). When I have it working I'll worry about my framerate et al. For the time being, these settings give me what I need at dx9, and I think is a good starting point for dx10, except if there are certain known "peculiarities". In this case please advise. PS. RAM 4 *GB*
October 27, 201213 yr I don't know if I must make a new post about that but I found the equivalent of nvidia inspector for ati users and called Ati Radeon Pro. It has more detailed settings and it has also the mipmap setting that Carl mentioned above. I played a little with the settings but the shimmering issue was like before. @jewel - yeah, better frames, smoother flow - and much clearer fsx textures. AF is certainly better. Nvidia have pretty much captured the market for the FSX users. Shimmering is quite controllable in FSX when using an Nvidia card. Paul I believe that because I made a DX10 test with my old laptop that has Nvidia Geforce 9650M GS 512 MB and shimmering was not so bad. So I think I'll go for nvidia when Steve fix the grey runways issue. Stratos Moschos
October 27, 201213 yr I'm not surprised that ATI doesn't work quite as well.. they are much slower in driver releases. I've had most all of their decent cards over the years, never really having any problems. I actually had the 5870 when ******* Altuve (a.k.a. Bojote) began his patching and research three or four years ago, and his outcome convinced me to switch: as I posted earlier - I had just purchased the 5870 four - five months prior to that and was quite happy until he came along and showed better with Nvidia! It always seems to me that Nvidia pushes out a new one every second month or so! :rolleyes: i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.
October 30, 201213 yr Author Here you can see some pictures of what I get in DX10. http://www.simforums.com/Forums/dx10-on-ati_topic43503.html Does anyone has a hint on how to improve or at least share experiences with ATI cards?
October 30, 201213 yr Change your water effects from 4 to 5. Did you know you can change ATI display driver settings while running FSX? You can immediately see what effect AA does when enhanced and other driver settings. You just have to run FSX in windowed mode. You can run it in full screen too but you'll have to constantly return to windowed mode. This is how I set a lot of my settings (well, I have another monitor so that made it a bit easier). The developer of the DX10 fix uses an ATI card too and has his observations in this forum regarding the ATI card settings - http://forum.avsim.net/topic/379908-dx10-antialiasing/. Best regards, Jim I might add that you are having an elevation problem with your scenery. If you look at the water just before the runway, the land is elevated. I think it's the mesh resolution slider in your fsx scenery settings that raises land and lowers it. I'm not sure what the scenery is that you are showing. If it's the default, then the mesh resolution slider should fix the problem by lowering the slider. If it's payware, then you need to set the resolution as suggested by the developer. Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
October 30, 201213 yr Author Change your water effects from 4 to 5 Didn't work. Tried also other settings. Did you know you can change ATI display driver settings while running FSX? Yes I might add that you are having an elevation problem with your scenery. If you look at the water just before the runway, the land is elevated. I think it's the mesh resolution slider in your fsx scenery settings that raises land and lowers it. I'm not sure what the scenery is that you are showing. If it's the default, then the mesh resolution slider should fix the problem by lowering the slider. If it's payware, then you need to set the resolution as suggested by the developer. The mesh slider does not raises or lowers land. This a very well known issue in FSX with detailed meshes (sometime with default mesh also) when the airport altitude is different from the terrain altitude. In that respect, it is almost always present when the runway is in the sea. BTW, what you see in the picture is default scenery. If you are sure that both land and airport elevations are true, then the proper way to fix this is to redraw the flatten polygon of the airport (using ADE or something similar) making sure that it coincides with the coastline (might take some trial and error). If the airport elevation is wrong, correct it with ADE, and if need be redraw again the flatten polygon. Since what I am currently getting with DX10 is worst from what I remember in the past with plain vanilla FSX, I will try to revert to the std shaders and recheck, just for the heck of it.
October 30, 201213 yr Noted. Sorry none of my suggestions worked. We are trying. Jim Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
November 1, 201213 yr Author Tried rolling back to default shaders, with more or less the same results (plus the known issues of default dx10). Is there anybody around that got dx10 on an ATI so he can share some settings and photos?
December 17, 201213 yr I'm having the same shimmering issue with dx10 with my 5850. I've tried everything thus far.. in particular.. i cant enable AA in FSX or it hoses things.. i go from 30 fps to 8. So i'm stuck using CCC, but even there, compared to dx9, the shimmering at least to me, is too noticeable. I'm going to first try swapping for a 7750 card and if that fails I'm punting and getting a 580 or 680, though the 680 is a bit pricey and the 580's they dont sell (new) anymore. I'd like to stick with dx10, as the fps seems better overall.. for instance.. darrington 1s2 on runway to end of runway, avg frames are 22-25 fps in dx9, but in dx10 i get 30 (locked).. this doesnt sound like much but for weather situations and clouds its huge. Asus Strix z790-e; 1000 watt evga SuperNova Plat; 14900k AC_LL 0.55 adp -0.050 253/253/355 CEPoff (CB-1pass 39200 80c, msfs peak 92,avg 60-78c, astrorender 95c,room76F); 64GB(dual 32) cl32 6400 at 6400 xmpII F5-6400J3239G32GX2-TZ5RK, Asus Ryuo III 360mm; Thermaltake v51 Case; Gigabyte 4090 OC; VR-Crystal; Dofreality H6; Astrosite
December 17, 201213 yr AA app controlled / AF app controlled try it Ryzen 5 1600x - 16GB DDR4 - RTX 3050 8GB - MSI Gaming Plus
December 17, 201213 yr AA app controlled / AF app controlled try it For me this made no difference.. still had 8 fps when AA was checked in fsx with this setting.. could be something hokey with card/OS though.. more testing/another windows partition needed to be sure. Asus Strix z790-e; 1000 watt evga SuperNova Plat; 14900k AC_LL 0.55 adp -0.050 253/253/355 CEPoff (CB-1pass 39200 80c, msfs peak 92,avg 60-78c, astrorender 95c,room76F); 64GB(dual 32) cl32 6400 at 6400 xmpII F5-6400J3239G32GX2-TZ5RK, Asus Ryuo III 360mm; Thermaltake v51 Case; Gigabyte 4090 OC; VR-Crystal; Dofreality H6; Astrosite
December 17, 201213 yr have you tweaked FSX ? Are you using the DX10 shaders ? Ryzen 5 1600x - 16GB DDR4 - RTX 3050 8GB - MSI Gaming Plus
December 17, 201213 yr have you tweaked FSX ? Are you using the DX10 shaders ? Yeah i have.. i'm pretty sure the shaders installed correctly.. i did see updated dates on the 10.x files. Asus Strix z790-e; 1000 watt evga SuperNova Plat; 14900k AC_LL 0.55 adp -0.050 253/253/355 CEPoff (CB-1pass 39200 80c, msfs peak 92,avg 60-78c, astrorender 95c,room76F); 64GB(dual 32) cl32 6400 at 6400 xmpII F5-6400J3239G32GX2-TZ5RK, Asus Ryuo III 360mm; Thermaltake v51 Case; Gigabyte 4090 OC; VR-Crystal; Dofreality H6; Astrosite
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