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P67 to Z77 - experience

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It's been pretty good, boot loop only once every few months. But I don't set sleep or hibernation on purpose hehe.

 

Indeed, is not the bad board, but I guess if you don't use sleep, you also don't use the wake on lan function, something I use daily, and I can't afford a faulty board - it must reliably wake up on request. I have no use of a computer which I turn on and it stucks at boot.

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When I used to run 5.0 on P8P67, the cold boot was happening very often

I have a Z68 ASUS board and also suffered from the double boot issue Three months ago I decided to increase my overclock and in the course of overclocking I disabled internal PLL overvoltage. I have not had a double boot since. Go figure?

Andrew Dixon
"If common sense was compulsory everyone would have it but I am afraid this is not the case"
 

I´ve also got an P8P67 Pro board working flawlessly with my i5-2500k an 4,5 GHz. I sometimes have this double-boot problem (goint through POST twice) and the problem with the sleep function but I don´t care much about this at all. As long as it´s working I won´t cange something and after running Windows off a SSD, I don´t need the sleep function at all cause it´s so fast to boot now.

Best regards, Steffen

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Fight time: NGX 737-700: 37,0h; -800: 47,2h

POST with the P67 takes about 20-30 seconds or about, POST with the Z77 takes less than 10 seconds. Measure from turning on the button until Windows logo appearance.

I'd like to update this thread:

 

The problems I had on the P67 are back on the Z77. Seems like the it is the old problem of PLL Overvolt. Whenn activated, problems are here with sleep and double post. But: it doesn't hang after double post. And sometimes if I put it to sleep, it won't wake up, but rather reset 2-3 times and then boot from cold. Still is going to go into windows.

Boot is still much faster than P67.

 

A very minimal improvement over P67.

 

As of now, I have two possibilities: get the 2700K (or 3770K and delid it) or just wait for Haswell, where I will have to upgrade all 3 components.

I decided I didn't want to have my Sunday without my flightsim, so I sent my GF to pick me up a new board (oh yes, she was cursing me), got me a ASUS P8Z77-V PRO.

 

 

Word Not Allowed, I've been considering the ASUS P8Z77-V Deluxe. Just wondered why you chose the Pro over the Deluxe? :smile: Was there a particular reason for that, given that the price is similar?

 

At the moment I'm thinking i7 2700K Sandybridge. If I change my mind and go for Ivybridge [doubt it] I guess I'll be de-lidding.

 

Don't see the point in Ivybridge at the moment, no sense de-lidding and thus voiding the CPU waranty when Sandybridge is so good and overclocks so well.

 

Haswell is at least 8 months away so I won't be bothering with that.

Just wondered why you chose the Pro over the Deluxe?

 

Both virtually same boards, Deluxe offers some features I don't necessarily need AND it's more expensive.

That's great Word Not Allowed!

But the statements you're coming with are very extreme, so I would like too ask if you have something to back them up with? I'm not trolling here, I'm just asking since I've never heard anything like this before. Could it be that there is a factor outside the mobo?

-Joachim Nilsen

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What is extreme, could you specify what is it that you don't believe?

 

To back them up I would have to reinstall P8P67, reinstall drivers, the measure times, do all that again with the P8Z77 and then report the exact results. So, no, I don't have anything to back them up except what I feel is faster. And I don't believe my feeling is mistaken me, since I can tell you 100% that the POST time is shorted, alone due to the ASUS providing a function in Z77 BIOS for a faster POST, giving you a possibility to tell the board to only initialize the keyboard/mouse ports and leave rest to windows. This is does not exist in the P8P67 BIOS.

 

No, there is no factor outside the mobo, because I tested the P8P67 without any USB devices apart from keyb/mouse and it was still slower.

What is extreme, could you specify what is it that you don't believe?

 

To back them up I would have to reinstall P8P67, reinstall drivers, the measure times, do all that again with the P8Z77 and then report the exact results. So, no, I don't have anything to back them up except what I feel is faster. And I don't believe my feeling is mistaken me, since I can tell you 100% that the POST time is shorted, alone due to the ASUS providing a function in Z77 BIOS for a faster POST, giving you a possibility to tell the board to only initialize the keyboard/mouse ports and leave rest to windows. This is does not exist in the P8P67 BIOS.

 

No, there is no factor outside the mobo, because I tested the P8P67 without any USB devices apart from keyb/mouse and it was still slower.

What is extreme, could you specify what is it that you don't believe?

 

To back them up I would have to reinstall P8P67, reinstall drivers, the measure times, do all that again with the P8Z77 and then report the exact results. So, no, I don't have anything to back them up except what I feel is faster. And I don't believe my feeling is mistaken me, since I can tell you 100% that the POST time is shorted, alone due to the ASUS providing a function in Z77 BIOS for a faster POST, giving you a possibility to tell the board to only initialize the keyboard/mouse ports and leave rest to windows. This is does not exist in the P8P67 BIOS.

 

No, there is no factor outside the mobo, because I tested the P8P67 without any USB devices apart from keyb/mouse and it was still slower.

Maybe extreme is somewhat extreme expression? What I mean is that you seem too achieve something that have never been achieved before. Therefore I use the word extreme, and therefore I think a proof will be in the place.

I'm not saying that your testing is wrong! don't misunderstand on this one. I'm a friendly guy.:)

-Joachim Nilsen

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OK, but I still don't understand what you mean!

 

I can't give you any proof, as I wasn't expecting these things, so I did not do any measurements. I bought the Z77 to check if it's more stable than P67. I confirmed it is.

Hi

Have no boot problems after tuning the VTT IMC voltages when running the 2700k @5.2 the Sandy B needs slightly more VTT IMC voltage then IVY

Dont know if the ASUS have adjustable IMC a run 0.005v diff , the PLL voltage ar not as cricical keep as low as possible

 

Hasse

VTT IMC

DRAM = you do not mean DRAM V...

VCCSA?

VCCIO?

CPU PLL?

PCH Voltage?

I mean

VTT

VCCsa

 

That type of double boot ,is My experiance that its related to à weak memcontroller

If on edge à slight vdroop to memcontroller you run into problems,

That its hard to give advice differnt mems needs differnt settings.

For example when i hunting with the 2700k and pushed the subtimings à get in the doubleboot thing

 

Have you à 2700k now or 2500-2600k , the memcontroller on 2500 is really bad little better on 2600 .

 

Tumb rule VTT-VCCsa diff 0.005v and VTT DRAM voltage not more than 0.5 v diff

If run mem at 1.65v VTT 1.15v

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