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P67 to Z77 - experience

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Hi guys,

 

Recently, someone was inquiring if Z77 is more stable than P67 when it comes to cold boot problem or sleep mode.

 

I was running Asus P8P67 Pro mobo until recently, and while it was quite stable, it was totally unstable when turning on or when waking from the sleep. Now, I have been living with it, until the Saturday, when I turned on the computer, it made 2-3 turn on-offs-ons on the boot (=the cold boot problem), locked up, I reset it, and when I was in Windows, all drives that were connected to the Marvell controller were not working. The whole windows was half frozen. In BIOS they appeared however.

 

I decided I didn't want to have my Sunday without my flightsim, so I sent my GF to pick me up a new board (oh yes, she was cursing me), got me a ASUS P8Z77-V PRO.

 

While the tuning, performance etc, didn't change much (or at all?), few things did improve:

 

- way faster boots from cold to windows logo

- way faster transition from windows logo to blue screen

- somewhat faster boot into windows

- did not cold boot once (only when I was tuning and overclocking my CPU, of course, which was normal)

- been out and in of sleep mode two past two days, waking my computer remotely, not a single problem

- the whole windows seems faster (more responsive) - this is pure subjective opinion

 

Now, the whole faster boot is due to the board, it was way faster cold to windows transition than P67. I have a Corsair M4 for my windows drive, so it must be some drivers and/or other controller that everything's quite faster.

 

I won't be sure for quite a while about the cold boot and sleep mode, since some weeks must pass so I can give it an amen. But 3 days now are looking promising! - and yes, I didn't give the system any rest - overclocked to 5.0 with 1.56V, a configuration which was making P67 go nuts and virtually never wake up from sleep, especially not after the whole night sleep mode.

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Hi guys,

 

Recently, someone was inquiring if Z77 is more stable than P67 when it comes to cold boot problem or sleep mode.

 

I was running Asus P8P67 Pro mobo until recently, and while it was quite stable, it was totally unstable when turning on or when waking from the sleep. Now, I have been living with it, until the Saturday, when I turned on the computer, it made 2-3 turn on-offs-ons on the boot (=the cold boot problem), locked up, I reset it, and when I was in Windows, all drives that were connected to the Marvell controller were not working. The whole windows was half frozen. In BIOS they appeared however.

 

I decided I didn't want to have my Sunday without my flightsim, so I sent my GF to pick me up a new board (oh yes, she was cursing me), got me a ASUS P8Z77-V PRO.

 

While the tuning, performance etc, didn't change much (or at all?), few things did improve:

 

- way faster boots from cold to windows logo

- way faster transition from windows logo to blue screen

- somewhat faster boot into windows

- did not cold boot once (only when I was tuning and overclocking my CPU, of course, which was normal)

- been out and in of sleep mode two past two days, waking my computer remotely, not a single problem

- the whole windows seems faster (more responsive) - this is pure subjective opinion

 

Now, the whole faster boot is due to the board, it was way faster cold to windows transition than P67. I have a Corsair M4 for my windows drive, so it must be some drivers and/or other controller that everything's quite faster.

 

I won't be sure for quite a while about the cold boot and sleep mode, since some weeks must pass so I can give it an amen. But 3 days now are looking promising! - and yes, I didn't give the system any rest - overclocked to 5.0 with 1.56V, a configuration which was making P67 go nuts and virtually never wake up from sleep, especially not after the whole night sleep mode.

 

Word Not Allowed, you made the right choice. You know why? Because that's the mobo I have! LOL

 

- My name is BimmerCop and I approve this message

 

 

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Efrain Ruiz
LiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️

You know why? Because that's the mobo I have! LOL

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: Great one, mate!

Hi guys,

 

Recently, someone was inquiring if Z77 is more stable than P67 when it comes to cold boot problem or sleep mode.

 

I was running Asus P8P67 Pro mobo until recently, and while it was quite stable, it was totally unstable when turning on or when waking from the sleep. Now, I have been living with it, until the Saturday, when I turned on the computer, it made 2-3 turn on-offs-ons on the boot (=the cold boot problem), locked up, I reset it, and when I was in Windows, all drives that were connected to the Marvell controller were not working. The whole windows was half frozen. In BIOS they appeared however.

 

I decided I didn't want to have my Sunday without my flightsim, so I sent my GF to pick me up a new board (oh yes, she was cursing me), got me a ASUS P8Z77-V PRO.

Hi Word Not Allowed,Did you do a complete reinstall of the operating system or jsut migrate to the new board?Andrew Dixon

While the tuning, performance etc, didn't change much (or at all?), few things did improve:

 

- way faster boots from cold to windows logo

- way faster transition from windows logo to blue screen

- somewhat faster boot into windows

- did not cold boot once (only when I was tuning and overclocking my CPU, of course, which was normal)

- been out and in of sleep mode two past two days, waking my computer remotely, not a single problem

- the whole windows seems faster (more responsive) - this is pure subjective opinion

 

Now, the whole faster boot is due to the board, it was way faster cold to windows transition than P67. I have a Corsair M4 for my windows drive, so it must be some drivers and/or other controller that everything's quite faster.

 

I won't be sure for quite a while about the cold boot and sleep mode, since some weeks must pass so I can give it an amen. But 3 days now are looking promising! - and yes, I didn't give the system any rest - overclocked to 5.0 with 1.56V, a configuration which was making P67 go nuts and virtually never wake up from sleep, especially not after the whole night sleep mode.

Hi Word Not Allowed ,Did you do a complete reinstall of the operating system or just change the motherboard?Andrew Dixon

Andrew Dixon
"If common sense was compulsory everyone would have it but I am afraid this is not the case"
 

Of course I migrated. Only need to uninstall old drivers and install new fresh ones. Register couple of addons and reactivate windows. Voila.

 

Check the above post though, edit it correctly.

The old drivers were uninstalled prior to or after motherboard installation? I only ask as I am considering the same upgrade.

 

Andrew Dixon

Andrew Dixon
"If common sense was compulsory everyone would have it but I am afraid this is not the case"
 

I only uninstall intel sata drivers in CP, forcing the change to default, and in the P8P67 case, I uninstalled the old USB3 drivers, as they are not needed with the Z77 board. I did it prior to removing the board, but it can be done after aswell, except the sata drivers, which are unloaded through the new mobo installation I think.

This makes me want to switch. My refurbed P67 Deluxe drives me NUTS.

Will keep an eye out on your progress. We run similar specs. I run a 2700k on a P8P67 with all M4 drives. I get the same cold boot issue (restarts a couple times), but its only when the system is at its upper OC limit. Do you use the AI Suite II Auto tuning feature? For me it works pretty good, 4.944ghz with a Noctua D4 air cooler, though FSX is pretty stable I'm sure it wouldnt pass torture.

 

Chris

Chris Strobel KSNA

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When I used to run 5.0 on P8P67, the cold boot was happening very often. And sleep was impossible.

 

Then I retried at stock, ran for a week, cool boot happened twice. Sleep was still unsure gameplay. Sometimes worked, sometimes not.

 

Then I tried 4.8, lower voltages, and it was simply somewhere inbetween - for some time, there was no cold boot, then in one week it would happen every day. Quite weird. Sleep was unsure too.

 

I sugget everyone keep an eye on this thread, I'll make a report weekly or so, so you get the idea how it's holding.

 

Running 5.0 stable now, without a single error until now.

 

Do you use the AI Suite II Auto tuning feature?

 

What an offense, LOL! :O

Similar to asking a Ferrari if they can build cars!

 

 

What an offense, LOL! :O

Similar to asking a Ferrari if they can build cars!

 

No offense meant mate. I've been seriously overclocking over a decade now, air, straight water, TeC's, built and sold my own custom vapor phase change systems, and was a frequent contibutor on all the extreme OC sites. Tried the AI tweaker for giggles when I got this board several months ago expecting fully to have to go in and hand tweak the bios, but nadda, 5ghz at the press of a button on freakin air. FSX with GEX/REX/ASE and your tweaks has never run smoother or more stable. The days of endless bios tweaking, testing, stressing, messy dielectric grease, inhaling non conformal coating spray, forum fishing, RMA'ing, etc.etc. are not missed one bit. If it works I aint gonna mess with it and have no shame using automation for system tweaking if it works. :Big Grin:

Chris Strobel KSNA

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None taken, don't worry. You must have seen "LOL" :P

 

Though... automation sucks :angry: Is good though for some less knowledgable though, if it works...

Thanks for the post.. I've also got P67 board...

 

It's been pretty good, boot loop only once every few months. But I don't set sleep or hibernation on purpose hehe.

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That's interesting to see your finds. I just got the same board a few days ago, haven't built the system yet, but good to know that its working well. Excited to get my build wrapped up after reading this.

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None taken, don't worry. You must have seen "LOL" :P

 

Though... automation sucks :angry: Is good though for some less knowledgable though, if it works...

 

Well you know how it is, you get outta the loop for a bit, technology moves on, and you quickly become one of the less knowledgeable again :blush:

 

Anyhoo appriciate you sharing your tweaks and tips here and on your site. :Applause:

Chris Strobel KSNA

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