December 16, 201213 yr I am thinking of purchasing this aircraft as an introduction to flying jets before going for something much more complicated such as the iFly 737. OK, I know that the ERJ is not a "simple" aircraft but I'm hoping it will be a jumping off point for me. Also, it's available for a 50% discount at the moment. Does anyone have any views about this. Is there a better aircraft to start me off with? Many thanks for any advice. David
December 16, 201213 yr I would say save your money and go straight for the iFly. Far better support apart from anything else and it is a fine aircraft (as is the PMDG before the war starts - I have both). And there is a comprehensive manual with the iFly (as there is with the PMDG). William Hall
December 16, 201213 yr I have them all and enjoy them....not as much as some of my high end products but get 100 hours or more a year on them. As for complication, all these add-ons are not that difficult to get a handle on, even PMDG and many others. I have had all the major jets ( not to mention a few props) and started w the 767 many years ago. A few days of messing w/ the FMC and learning the basics, I was flying and everything from then on was a piece of cake. I am currently taking on the Q300 from Majestic, It took me 2 days to get it set up and such and I am flying w/ no problem. So just get the one you really want and go for it....If I had to pick the hardest it would be the 747 classic from Ralph T. That arcft is a hand full....the CIVA nav system is very different from the modern stuff but a fun learn. I rather like the Ifly 737's and MD-11 from PMDG for it's totality. Lots of bells and whistles. Obviously the more complicated the more time you can really get into the particulars while still flying. Good luck
December 16, 201213 yr The Feelthere E-jets is a good . Beautiful model , good flight dynamics (by Bob Young), good simulation of the flight guidance. I would not say that it is easier than the 737. The FMS is more complicated and challenging. There are also still some small bug's, but nevertheless ,all in all, very good. I like it. The Ifly 737 on on the other hand is in my eyes the perfect addon. (I think there are no remaining bugs). The FMS is very complete but the logic is in some way a bit more simple. It is also a bit more demanding on frame rates. Guy
December 16, 201213 yr I don't think I would classify the E-Jets as a less complicated than the iFly 737. They are equally complex to operate, and I'm not sure I would recommend either as a an introduction to flying jets. However, if you want to learn anything with a moderately faithful FMC, then either would do the job. I have both and enjoy them, but it has to said that the iFly 737 is probably the best airliner produced for FS9 - and the support forum is excellent. Graeme Butler
December 16, 201213 yr Author Funny, but you ask a question about the FeelThere ERJ and get a lot of threads all extolling the virtues of the iFly 737! Shows one very interesting trait of the human race and that is to answer the question we think someone ought to have asked and not the one that they did, in fact, really ask!! For the record I have the iFly 737 and FS2Crew as well. I bought them just in case the developers decided to drop sales and support for FS2004. It is an immensely complex sim and not, in my opinion, the most sensible aircraft to upgrade to from flying a small twin prop. Hence the question about the ERJ which I have now decided to buy. Thanks anyway for the input - about the 737! David
December 16, 201213 yr The Wilco E-jets are actually pretty good, although for what you're trying to achieve I think the QualityWings Avro RJ series would be a better bet. They're complex too, but not terribly so, and they look amazing in every category (2D, VC and external model). Easy on framerate, too. John G.
December 16, 201213 yr Funny, but you ask a question about the FeelThere ERJ and get a lot of threads all extolling the virtues of the iFly 737! Shows one very interesting trait of the human race and that is to answer the question we think someone ought to have asked and not the one that they did, in fact, really ask!! David, In your original post you said "I am thinking of purchasing this aircraft as an introduction to flying jets before going for something much more complicated such as the iFly 737." From that I think most people assumed that you did not own either product, and were advising you that the iFly 737 might be the better option since both are "complicated". Now you say you already have the iFly 737, which is confusing. The E-Jets are very good, but as I have said, neither of these products are really simple "beginners" jets. I think most people here are trying to help you but perhaps your question was confusing? Graeme Butler
December 16, 201213 yr Last I looked, the Feelthere Embraers were all still 4:3 format without a widescreen option. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
December 17, 201213 yr Last I looked, the Feelthere Embraers were all still 4:3 format without a widescreen option. Bob - there is indeed an option for both 4:3 and 16:9 panel formats in the configuration manager. Graeme Butler
December 17, 201213 yr Interesting...their website says "Screen resolutions from 1024x768 to 1600x1200 (!) for a perfect instrument readability. " and all the screenshots are in 4:3. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
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