Do you ahve any tips for me???

Read the manual or at least do the tutorial flight by the letter.

The tutorial flights. Both of them. A must to get a handle on this plane and most of all enjoy!

If you want my advice - go back to FS2004 and the earlier PMDG 737 800/900. I have spent some time trying to adapt to virtual cockpit and it seems to be a realism too far. The earlier sim was realism enough.

If you want my advice - go back to FS2004 and the earlier PMDG 737 800/900

I couldn't agree with you less.

 

I think the tutorials that come in the start menu are good because they sequence things out. Good basic flights that get you started. Very easy to follow.

Do you ahve any tips for me???

 

This guy has a very good series of video tutorials.

Very usefull!

 

Ditto on the manuals and tutorials. Though if you have spent any time in any modern jet sim, you will pick up the NGX very quickly. I love it - it is my favorite plane to tool around in right now. The -600/-700 expansion is a treat, too.

 

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Chris Parrott

If you want my advice - go back to FS2004 and the earlier PMDG 737 800/900. I have spent some time trying to adapt to virtual cockpit and it seems to be a realism too far. The earlier sim was realism enough.

 

That's really poor advice.

 

The guy asked for tips on what he bought, not a suggestion to switch to a 7+ year old platform and an almost equally old version of the 737.

 

@the OP: do the tutorials that came with the NGX. That will get you rolling .

 

 

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I do hope that was supposed to be sarcasm from Mr. Kent there...hahaha.

 

You know that NGX does have a 2D panel for those having trouble navigating the VC eh?

Seven years ago is hardly the dark ages and the level of realism in FS2004/PMDG 737 is very high. I bought the NG version on the assumption that it was a similar product but with a few extras. Instead I find that the familiar '2D' cockpit has given way to a degree of realism that is less real - so far as I can see - than '2D'. (Why have they done away with altering speed and angles in increments of ten. This simulated the changes needed more more realistically than increments of one which take at age. And is clicking on the FMC to bring it to a manageable position (after 'realistically' disposing of the yoke) and then summoning a window to get rid of it really realistic? No more, I think, than having a selection to choose from as in the FS2004.

 

My main criticism is how you move around the cockpit since a high degree of manipulation with the joystick is needed and which seems to elude me. I shall try for a few more days but I suspect I will throw the thing out and go back to the tried and tested.

 

Of course, had there been some instruction on how to work in the virtual cockpit environment, I might have been less critical................... (Where ARE these tutorials?)

'You know that NGX does have a 2D panel for those having trouble navigating the VC e

 

 

So far you are the only person who has told me anything worthwhile! PMDG emphasised that the 737NGX could not be flow in 2D mode. Clearly however, it can and that will give me time to - perhaps - adapt to the virtual cockpit.

Well done, many thanks.

setup a final approach, save it. Practice landing for 6-8 hours straight pausing only for the bathroom. Practice when to throttle back and flare. Remember to level off over the threshold before you flare it or you will do the dreaded float 10 feet above the runway and touchdown late forcing you to mash the toe breaks and full reverse thrust before going off the end of the runway.

 

Not that I ever did that...but my friend told me it could happen :blink:

 

Also, before you ask why you can't engage LNAV after takeoff. Keep in mind the aircraft has to be trimmed correctly and pressure off the yoke before it will engage..

 

Finally keep in mind..before you ask questions on these forums. People will be hostile to you for asking questions on this forum if you have not meticulously studied the 300+ page manual as well as done all the tutorial flights.

 

I know this from personal experience. :rolleyes:

 

Guthrie

Seven years ago is hardly the dark ages and the level of realism in FS2004/PMDG 737 is very high. I bought the NG version on the assumption that it was a similar product but with a few extras. Instead I find that the familiar '2D' cockpit has given way to a degree of realism that is less real - so far as I can see - than '2D'. (Why have they done away with altering speed and angles in increments of ten. This simulated the changes needed more more realistically than increments of one which take at age. And is clicking on the FMC to bring it to a manageable position (after 'realistically' disposing of the yoke) and then summoning a window to get rid of it really realistic? No more, I think, than having a selection to choose from as in the FS2004.

 

My main criticism is how you move around the cockpit since a high degree of manipulation with the joystick is needed and which seems to elude me. I shall try for a few more days but I suspect I will throw the thing out and go back to the tried and tested.

 

Of course, had there been some instruction on how to work in the virtual cockpit environment, I might have been less critical................... (Where ARE these tutorials?)

 

In the computer industry, just two years can render something obsolete.

Trying to compare the ng to the NGX and saying the NGX offers nothing substantially extra is a ludicrous statement.

 

As far as VC navigation, there are numerous threads and suggestions in these forums on that topic. Have you searched and read any?

Different software packages offer easy VC manipulation, such as ezdok and opusfsx. Have you looked into those?

 

You won't find a VC tutorial (or maybe you will, who knows what lurks in the avsim library). Sometimes you have to do a little research and see what works and what doesn't for your flying style.

 

That said, there is almost nothing different between navigating the ng VC and the NGX VC besides more switches and knobs having a working function.

As mentioned, the NGX can be flown from 2D panels, and the product page clearly states that 2D panels are included. Nothing different from the ng.

 

I really don't understand your point or your argument.

 

 

 

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M Kent,

 

Kind of sad to hear you are disappointed. With anything new, there's always going to be some pains getting used to things. Yes, the way things were done in those hedy FS2004-days were not always the most 'realistic', but they could be construed as straightforward and user friendly.

 

The "reality" is, the NGX is a pretty big step in introducing true realism into how one handles and manipulates this aircraft into doing what you want it to do. Things like moving up in tens and such are great additions for those pre-mousewheel days, but it's simply not how the real aircraft behaves (actually the manner in which it behaves with the alt press and mins knobs in the real-world would probably make you go crazy...). We've reached a point here with the NGX in which realism is starting to overtake ease-of-use...but really the aircraft will become a ball to fly with if you give it a little effort.

 

First of all, holding down your space bar and panning your mouse around will allow you to quickly browse around the cockpit in the VC view. I don't operate any fancy track IR setup and this is the primary manner I work within the VC. It has worked so well for me I haven't even touched the 2D-pit. As you hold the spacebar, you can also scroll your zoom by utilizing your mousewheel. For example, for me to reach a couple far-off spots on the VC I hold down the space bar, pan to the location while simultaneously zooming, release space-bar, do whatever, then just pan back to where-ever I need be. It can be a bit difficult to do things during the approach, but I just take the extra time and try to get all set-up and stabilized a bit ahead of the game, giving me lots of time to set up a good view to hand-fly it down.

 

Like I mentioned before, working with the old way of tens and hundreds is just not how it works on the real aircraft. Sorry, but I don't thing the objective of this simulation was to go into all that systems depth, and just ruin it with unrealistic use-of implementations. Hover your mouse over the knob you which to adjust and utilize the mousewheel to select whatever alt/speed/heading you need.

 

The tutorials are located in your start-menu -> programs -> PMDG Simulations -> PMDG 737NGX. At a minimum you should see Tutorial 1. Tutorial 2 should also be there if you are running the latest service pack.

 

I agree with you M. that the biggest hurdle in moving up from those FS2004 days is the move towards working in a VC only environment. We are lucky that the NGX gives us an ability to 'transition' from the 2D to the VC...and perhaps even find a comfort level working in both. I really hope you give it a bit more of a chance, especially because you paid for it! Don't let that money go to waste .

 

Just like in the real-world, one has to 'transition' from aircraft types from time-to-time.

EZCA will help you with spot views of anywhere you want to be with the NGX. It's from 'Flight 1' and is worth every penny. You can even get your money back if you don't like it within 30 days, so you have nothing to lose and everything to gain by sticking with it and the NGX.

 

Best simulation available in so many ways.