I was asking about the settings for CWS....how have you got that set ?

 

My advice about disconnecting the joystick is a one-off experiment to see if your joystick is the problem.

 

Peter

al1234 thanks but im no idiot....i can hand fly the plane great same as 737 and 747 the AP's on those work great the MD-11 for me is garbage on AP..please feel free to test me on my knowledge anytime!

 

my screens prove the problem....but how the heck do i post them here? im determined not to dump this plane yet..it flys so well manually but that obviously misses the whole point of the automation

 

a1234 like i said i can slow the bird down on manual no problem..my 3 world circuits with other planes have taught me all the correct ways to fly....this damn bird wont do what i tell it on AP ONLY regarding any vertical commands....

You can post them with links to a cloud service you have. That should do it. 

You mentioned 2.7 on your trim. That seems a little off. Usually on takeoff im setting it at around 4.5-6 depending on your load of course. 

 

Also you mentioned the AP disconnect with the override switches. They arent meant to be used as far as i understand it. They are not like the boeings where you can press the ap disconnect. 

 

Another thing, when you uninstalled did you remove the pmdg folders for the md11 in simobjects and the root of fsx?

 

Short of the advanced tutorial thats pinned on this forum and the ones in the manuals, I still strongly suggest the Angle of Attack training.  Never learned so much through there, as I tried to fly it before but wasnt very profecient. As mentioned she can have a mind of her own?  (any girlfriends or wife come to mind?? JK JK )

 

Any weird vertical navigation that has happened to me is rare, and is usually something in my FMC it doesnt like.  But stick with it. This bird is so worth flying. IMHO

Dang no i didnt remove the pmdg folders...but the aircraft was gone as when i loaded fsx it said default plane/flight missing....

 

..i will post the pix to my own web site later busy cos of Easter (! theres life outside the sim apparently!!)

 

the trim was set so low/high cos it was the only way i could keep the nose down!!

 

i will try unplug the joy after af engage as yes it needs eliminating from the equation

 

i did three manual flights using atc from inverness to edinburgh then birmingham then the wonderfully challenging small London City late last night and the less i used AP the more

fun and control I had...ironically that a problem with such an automated plane has taught me to fly it by hand much better all landings pretty much greased prefer it to the 747 which

always seems like im flying a dumpster :0

 

saw the preview of AOA training and it looked fun as well as informative..."press Autoflight and grab yoke and start praying"......hmmmmm!

 

didnt program FMS last night except start/end so i could use stars and ILS to autotune the landing except it didnt tune in all cases....not a problem as

the plane TOLD me to tune it myself and i did and it worked! im starting to enjoy what has to be the only round world trip anyone has done in the MD WITHOUT

any autopilot.....starting the engines last night my step daughter walks in..."are we having an earthquake?!?" classic!

RG

ps thanks for your input im gonna solve this for sure!

Dang no i didnt remove the pmdg folders...but the aircraft was gone as when i loaded fsx it said default plane/flight missing....

 

..i will post the pix to my own web site later busy cos of Easter (! theres life outside the sim apparently!!)

 

the trim was set so low/high cos it was the only way i could keep the nose down!!

 

Try http://imgur.com/, it is the easiest file sharer out there. Just want to say that the super low pitch is way off. I usually have 5-6 pitch up, sometimes I come to 3 pitch up but that is very unusual. Have you tried to disable REX yet? Just go for a totally wind free flight... Also disable all weather both on FSUIPC and FSX weather settings. No turbulence or any kind of that stuff. 

 

Manfred

Thanks Manfred will use that to upload pix soon they clearly show the plane ignoring fcp settings regarding altitude maybe then one of you experts can diagnose my problem

.. Yeh I flew without Rex and Ms clear sky's on the Florida flight... It shouldn't get calmer than heat.. Atis said wind calm before takeoff... Ok let's get those pix up now

 

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here are all the screenshots - Im still really hoping its my user error! i love this plane...almost..she's like a girlfriend with a drug addiction right now....soon as you take your hands off her she wants to get high :0

 

http://imgur.com/a/dBoVy#0

 

RG

My initial observation is that you have not transitioned out of take off thrust.... the PFD shows T/O CLAMP when you are at 7,000 feet.

 

You can get the throttles to move to climb thrust by either:

 

arm PROF before take off....in which case the A/T will go to climb thrust at the altituted specified in the FMC or

select PROF above (i think) 400 feet or

use level change (pull the Alt knob) above (again i think) 400 feet.

 

If you do neither of these it appears the throttles remain in T/O CLAMP mode

 

Peter

here are all the screenshots - Im still really hoping its my user error! i love this plane...almost..she's like a girlfriend with a drug addiction right now....soon as you take your hands off her she wants to get high :0

 

http://imgur.com/a/dBoVy#0

 

RG

I cant see the shots very well, but i see in the first one the take off page says trim of 5.4 and it looks like you have it at 4. something.  there is no guess work. must set the takeoff page stab trim or she will give you difficulty

HT

 

If you click on the "nut" icon on the upper right you can view the pic in full resolution.

 

I was squinting at first too !

 

Peter

Something else which the OP may not have realised, is if you are using level change mode it is not enough to simply set a higher or lower speed on the dial. Unlike a Boeing you need to turn the dial then pull it in the MD-11

 

Peter

As you said you are doing everything right. Have you tried the registry repair tool at flight 1? http://www.flight1.com/view.asp?page=library

If that doesn't work I will suggest a most extreme solution http://support.precisionmanuals.com/KB/a87/how-to-uninstall-and-reinstall-fsx.aspx. It's a pain in the *** but I don't think there is anything else at the moment...

 

Manfred

Further observations:

 

picture 13 is the first time the aircraft has been instructed with a vertical profile (right hand side of PFD). At that point you have CLB THRUST annunciated on the right of the PFD,  together with PITCh on the left. so the aircraft should accelerate to 346 KIAS (and the green line shows it was) and climb at that speed. What actually happened after this point....

 

Because the next picture (14) shows you have changed to V/S with a massive 12,800 fpm climb commanded !!

 

Peter

Great observations so far guys I'm away from home so can't write much on this connection but yes the vs speed is insane why would it climb to that? I pressed selector didn't at any stage select any vs setting myself on that flight

Also I do definitely know that you have to push or pull the knobs to get a result I took a he screen shots with my mouse over e buttons showing the hand pull push or turn icon but forgot somewhere in fsx that mouse cursor turned off for screen shots so you can't see jt

Also the stab trim I always set in green value as indicated on to appr page the crazy value is the result of me desperately applying trim to try to level the aircraft after rutting back in manual mode.. Surely after put back in ap mode the ap should command the trim?

Keep these great suggestions coming please!

 

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The trim was set to 4.4 before t/o not to 5.4 as the FMC required.

 

It the aircraft is moving from a pitch/climb speed profile to V/s without any input from you, then you have a problem with your system.

 

i suggest you try what I have suggested in previous posts and report back if you need further help.

 

Peter

Another point about the prof button it can be armed before take off Or armed I the air depending on how much u want to hand fly the departure to satisfy atc

I have followed all checklists from pmdg to the letter in preparing this plane for flight same as I did with the 737 and 747 and every other product... Can't see right now but I'm sure that 14k climb was ATTER I pulled the altitude 1600 button... Regardless u can see I have pushed it in several times to to hold the altitude but still went into insane climb

 

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Well its not the joystick - am using FSUIPC to control axis/buttons so fs joys disabled - but i unplugged the stick after take off and before AP activated. Flight became even more intolerable to

the virtual passengers as without my joystick intervention the plane proceeded to climb until it was too heavy to climb more with lo speed protection on - i then tried altitude selection via both FMS and   

FCP and as before plane ignored all commands vertically. I did notice the following though:

Plane climbing thru 38000 altitude set on FP at 25000

i pull the knob and throttles move back for a few seconds..IDLE CLAMP 25000 displays for 3 or 4 seconds then MCT THRUST appears (every time) and plane starts to climb again.

 

This is during FMS cruise so no reason for plane to want to climb above FMS and FCP settings.

 

Pushing the knob in to select current altitude seems to slow climb for a few seconds then  back to Apollo behavior

 

I am getting the SLATS OVERSPEED at regular intervals despite them being stowed. No joystick plugged in used mouse to confirm this

 

message SLATS ASE displays sometimes too...

 

To cut to the chase....forgetting all the unusual activity Im focusing on why the plane ignores the FCP altitude setting at all times. This surely is an obvious symptom but maybe the

logic behind it is the cause? If plane doesnt know what altitude its at how can it behave properly? Just a thought.

 

Can someone give me a definitive answer as to whether the FCP altitude should ALWAYS stop the plane at that point when descending or climbing when on autopilot?

I was taught in the tutorials to set the FCP to retain pilot control over the plane in case of FMS mis-programming or ATC requests for example and in the 737 setting a MSA

with it has got me some hairy mountain flights safely. Is it supposed to be hard coded under all circumstances to lock the AP at that altitude?

 

I am taking the attitude now to my problem that my pc works great..FSX and all add ons work great except this one. I dont want to change or ,mess with the config of a system that

has given me some 500 content safe hours in the 737 NGX for example. I will cut my losses and fly the plane under the scenario that I am a pilot flying a broken plane to be repaired

and must use manual control at all times (except autoland....when the altitude logic works FINE! although i enjoy the landing by hand the most anyway)

 

I tried the FSX 'repair path ' fix due to the ILS landing problem affecting all planes but guess im stuck with this lemon. Before burying this autopilot in the woods I am going to run through the

started tutorial flight once more just to see at which exact point either the AP or my user error screws the plane up...