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What is the parameters for PAX weight

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Greetings,

I'm working on an XML gauge for PAX weight. I found an entry for payload station weight...is this the same thing??? if not, what is the correct parameter???

This is what I have come up with so far...but it's not showing anything but a "0".

  <String>%((A:PAYLOAD STATION WEIGHT, POUNDS))%!6d!</String>

Any help, comments would be appreciated.

 

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If I remember what I learned in school in my weight and balance class, it's 170 pounds per passenger. Not really sure if the airlines use that value or a different one. I thought I saw somewhere they may have used 190 pounds as well, so I'm not really too sure.

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The variable should be A:PAYLOAD STATION WEIGHT:i  where I is the station index ranging from 1 to A:PAYLOAD STATION COUNT.

 

The number of stations, their positions and weights are given in the  individual aircraft.cfg files.

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There are different "standard"  weights for passengers as follows:

 

Summer: Adult - 190lbs  Child - 82lbs

Winter:   Adult - 195lbs  Child - 87lbs

 

Average bag weight is 30lbs.

 

Summer: Apr 1-October 31

Winter: November 1-March 31

 

NOTE: The weight of children under the age of 2 has been factored into the standard average and segmented adult passenger weights.

 

These weights are driven by the FAA and apply to all Part 121 carriers that have a carry on baggage program.
See FAA Advisory Circular AC-120-27E

 

Kind regards,
Dave Lamb

FAA Licensed Aircraft Dispatcher

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I think it's 185lbs for aircraft carrying more than 30 people by EU OPS, probably by IR OPS too.

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The EU OPS standard mass values for passengers for aircraft with more than 30 seats are:

 

All flights except holiday charters 84 kg (which is 185 lb)

Holiday charters 76 kg

Children  35 kg 

 

The  baggage standard mass values for aircraft with more than 20 seats are:

 

Domestic 11 kg

Within the European region 13 kg

Intercontinental 15 kg

All other 13 kg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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So if the average (per FAA) passenger weighs 190-195 lbs including their carry-on bags and other crap, and the averaged checked bag in the cargo hold is 30 lbs, how many average checked bags per passenger is typical in rw airline planning?

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All the replies except for MGH  (#3 post ) are stupid. Read the original post. 

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Thanks for the replies, but i think almost everybody missed my point. I'm trying to make a simple XML gauge to show what the total weight of the pax/cargo onboard the aircraft is. The string that I have is 
<String>%((A:PAYLOAD STATION WEIGHT, POUNDS))%!6d!</String
but it's showing up a complete zero.
Thanks for the help MGH, but I'm still a bit confused...I sent ya a "PM ".

if anybody could give me a little more insight I would appreciate it.

 

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I sent ya a "PM ".

 

Post it here - I don't do PMs

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The aircraft has only 2 stations...crew (station 1), and pax (station 2), and the max payload is 8200 lbs.. I'm kind of confused as to how, and where to put the station index, or even what the whole string should look like...compared to my original post.

 

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JR,

 

 Yes, you should be able to read just about any thing about a station weight. The station description too to a certain string length. This "should" work for both FS9 and FSX.

 

For instance if the aircraft.cfg has the following -

[weight_and_balance]
BLAH, BLAH, A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF , and onward, and then

max_number_of_stations = 9
station_load.0 =175.234000, 23.290000, -1.110000, 0.740000, Pilot
station_load.1 =237.956534200, 23.270000, 1.000000, 0.730000, WSO
In a properly written xml display statement(s) for string display(s) one could write. (multiple)

 

<String>%((A:PAYLOAD STATION NAME:1, String))%!s!%</String> <!-- would equal "Pilot" -->

<String>%((A:PAYLOAD STATION NAME:2, String))%!s!%</String> <!-- would equal "WSO" -->

 

Then if one would want

 

(A:PAYLOAD STATION COUNT, number) would equal 9

 

And finally the weight of each station in a string or number -

 

<String>%((A:PAYLOAD STATION WEIGHT:1, pounds))%!6.3f!</String> <!-- Would equal the pilots weight as "175.234" -->

<String>%((A:PAYLOAD STATION WEIGHT:2, pounds))%!9.6f!%</String> <!-- Would equal the WSO's weight as a handicapped person not accounted for with a hound and a mobility vehicle = "237.956534" -->

 

Notice how the index # is 1 more than the aircraft.cfg entry. The index was never (barely) described inthe FS9 SDK but was in the FSX SDK.

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Sorry Gents, in a real bad attitude today, so much so, it doesn't show up on the ADI - Guess it time for an attitude adjustment.

 

G'Day

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Problem solved. Believe it or not I had the string that way last night, but I screwed up on a parameter...and didn't catch it. Have to stop working on stuff without sleep.. Thanks to all for the help.

 

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I just wanted to post a screen shot. Again, Thanks to all!!!

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                                          J.R.

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All the replies except for MGH  (#3 post ) are stupid. Read the original post. 

Maybe because I misunderstood what was being asked for in the first place. Because I can't ever make mistakes?

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I just wanted to post a screen shot. Again, Thanks to all!!!

                                    Take Care

                                          J.R.

Great looking result for your first "gauge." Since this has been solved now, I'm going to close the thread before anymore toes are stepped on inadvertently. :ph34r:

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