Hi everyone, sorry to be THIS guy...but I'm out of ideas.

 

I've watched several NGX videos on youtube, and it seems like they all have it dialed in, and I cant get mine to perform like theirs. I'm talking about choppy animations, like, way choppy animations. i.e speedbreaks, ailerons, etc.. I dont accept the results I'm getting.

 

My system should handle NGX. I know its a heavy addon, but comparing other peoples systems, and seeing how it runs on them, I should be getting comperable results..or maybe not, I'm still new to this world...

 

3770k @ 4.7, 8GB corsair vengance ram 9-9-9-24, GTX680, samsung SSD.

 

 

someone please help me out here...

 

Thanks.

 

I understand your frustrations - your system is more than capable of running the NGX well by the looks of it.

 

Go to this file:%AppData%\Microsoft\FSX\fsx.cfg and search for a line under [Graphics] called HIGHMEMFIX=1 - if you do not see this line in there then you need to add it in straight away. See if this helps your issues.

Daniel,

 

Have you got the Venetubo fix applied to your FSX yet?   If not google Venetubo for FSX and follow the instructions, should solve all your issues regarding FSX in general and the NGX especially!   Not sure if this is exactly what you are looking for, but there you have it!

 

Kind regards

The control surface animations are choppy. It's a bug that's supposed to be fixed in SP2 (source: Ryan).

Forgot to mention, I've done all the cfg tweaks as per the Hardware and Software guide, with default aircraft, it runs all sorts of smooth.

 

 

I  also did see on here that it was a bug, but in the videos I've watched, the animations were nice and fluid:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Hbin6-100e0

 

 

 

Could anyone tell me what lines in the CFG might affect the NGX?

 

Thanks for everyones help!

 

Could anyone tell me what lines in the CFG might affect the NGX?

 

Thanks for everyones help!

 

 

There is no line in the CFG to help smoothen animations. The only other thing I can think of - in your FSX settings do you have Advanced Animations ticked?

yup, its ticked.

 

what about nvidia inspector? would a setting in there affect animations?

yup, its ticked.

 

what about nvidia inspector? would a setting in there affect animations?

 

I highly doubt it - can you post a video, im curious to see just how choppy it is? Just something simple with a phone camera should be enough to see if its just the bug or whether yours is much more exaggerated 

i will tomorrow when i am home. 

 

thank you for your help.

You are not alone in this my friend.   PMDG 737NGX is by the far the must framerate destructive add-on every conceived by mankind.    I have spent the last 5 weeks trying to get my FSX running smooth with PMDG 737 just like all the YouTubers have it (I am starting to think their smoothness is FS Recorder tricks and other 3rd party editing).   I have failed.   I even went through the pain of meticulously adding one tweak at a time and recording the results through my benchmark flight on an Excel spreadsheet before I installed PMDG because I knew it was going to be heavy but I didn't realize just how badly.

 

I run with REX Essentials Overdrive and ORBX's new FTX Global texture package and FS Global for Terrain Mesh.   My specs are below:

 

Intel i7 3930k OC'd to 4.6ghz Stable with a Corsair Hydro 100i watercooler.

ASUS Sabertooth X79 Mobo

32gigs of G.Skill Ripsaw Ram set to 1600mhz with 9 9 9 24 timings

2 Velociraptor WS HD's with the OS on one and FSX exclusively on another.

1 WD Black 7200 RPM drive to hold screensheets and Add-Ons that will allow me to install them away from the game ( most will not allow this )

ASUS GTX 770 OC2 2gb DDR5 Video Card

 

This beast cost me $4000 to build.  I built it JUST to run FSX.    And FSX has said, "Naw Dawg.   You can keep your state of the art hardware.  I'm gonna run like this is 1995!"    I have installed and uninstalled FSX 6 times now in the month I have been trying to get this up and running like all the videos I have seen.    I have used *******'s auto-tweaker.  I bought FSX Booster 2013.   I hand edited off of guides and forum thread suggestions.    FINALLY, on this last install and doing all the math work of a quantum theorist I ended up with these results BEFORE PMDG was installed:

 

Virtual Cockpit:   80 FPS

Outside View:    85 FPS

Top Down Satelitte:     102

 

Settings in FSX.CFG of relevance:   AffinityMask set to use 5 of my 12 cores (the physical ones.  Told it to ignore virtual since it does that anyway), HighMemFix, Fibre_Frames are at .33 default, MipBais is OFF (this will KILL your FPS by 10 frames and is not relevant to modern PCs anymore), Max_Aysnc is OFF.   This did not help with the blurries on my rig.   Bandwidth set to 120.    All other tweaks are default values or not added.

 

Those frames are done with NO WEATHER on, clear skies, because I know clouds will destroy the FPS.  (REX generated overcast and I lost 30 FPS from the cloud coverage so I benchmarked with clear skies).    All my sliders are max accept ORBX's Autogen.   It is on Sparse even though the manual says my rig can handle Extremely Dense.  It lies.   It can handle it but my FPS went from 80 to 35 FPS.  Turn it to Sparse and it shot back up to 80.   

 

Now, at this point...   I am stable at 80 FPS in the VC on the active RUNWAY at Dallas Love Field in DFW in Texas, my home airport.   That would have been great.   I figured it was now time to add the PMDG, the super Airplane Add-On of epicness!

 

After install.. my FPS now in the same setup, sitting on the runway, is 32FPS...   I lost 48 FPS from this aircraft.  @_@    That is outrageous.    And the funny thing is, that FPS stays constant even if I go into the FMC and set Performance FPS on the displays and turn off the FO's instrument displays.   Just PEGGED at 32FPS.    When I take off.. FPS drops to 22FPS until I get up to about 5000 and start making my way out of the metroplex.   Best it gets once up in the air is about 45FPS.     This is not going to cut it.   When I start flying with weather and install Ultimate Traffic 2 I am going to be looking at a slideshow on a 2013 Super Computer.     

 

So brother... I feel your frustration.   I guess I am going to just have to shelf PMDG's product I threw $70 at since I CANNOT get it to fly smooth under load.  

Sounds about average. Your expectations are too high. Default aircraft fps is a joke. 22 fps at takeoff does sound a little low unless you've got a lot of ai, road traffic, and autogen. With my system, I can stay above 20 fps on the ground at a payware airport with 40-50% ut2 traffic, no road traffic, normal autogen. Once out of the airport area, 30 locked. Landing fps is decent unless it's a huge hub airport. Bufferpools off makes a huge difference for me. I also tried fps unlimited in fsx and 1/4 refresh rate in inspector (120 hz monitor) and it was a little better. To expect more than 30 fps is wishful thinking. Until P3D and dx11. Fsx is not a modern gpu shader based game.

 

 

So brother... I feel your frustration. I guess I am going to just have to shelf PMDG's product I threw $70

Your expectations were too high. All we can really hope for in FSX is to get a nice smooth simulation. Now a smooth simulation can be achieved from as low as 18fps. The dream is to keep FSX locked at around 23-30fps as this is the refresh rate where our eyes cannot perceive the lag.

 

I own a 2011 "supercomputer" and can run FSX with countless addons and full weather with no issues at all. Frames stay consistently between 20-30fps (I lock at 30 as anything higher is overstressing the system needlessly). But essentially frame rate is unimportant (to an extent) as long as the simulation is smooth - then it is easy to fly on as little as 18fps. I suggest you keep reading and keep tweaking. This process doesnt happen overnight and is different based on everyone system and needs. Aim for smoothness - ignore that frame counter - it doesnt matter how many frames you get - just needs to be smooth.

Make sure your video card is in the first slot and running at full 16x speed. I had an issue with new system down clocking my vid card to 8x pcie 1.1 or something and performance was abysmal

See I would except that critique if not for the dozens of videos of people at super busy airports with GSX going and traffic all around them and SMOOOOTH FPS on older i7 2600k.     But if I turn all that stuff on right this moment with my current install performance is going to drop past 20 FPS.       In my benchmark testing I have ZERO traffic on; no boats, no planes, no cars, no clouds, no ice cream, no hope, only the tears I bring with me inside my plane... and that's what I get...   25FPS... down from 80...?   No.  Something is not right.

 

 

And I know about locking the FPS.    That was going to be my final step once I had it all in place.    You are right.  You really shouldn't worry TOO MUCH about the final FPS, it is indeed about smoothness in the end.

 

I just want to know how these people on YouTube with older systems seem to max these videos with PMDG and all the hard hitting pretty graphic addons and its SMOOOTH.  FRAPS destroys FPS too but they seem immune to it.

 

 

Not meaning to high jack this thread but should I do what all the guru's say;     Leave the Frame Limiter UNLIMITED in FSX and lock the FPS with the external FPS limiter and if I do that do I still need to go into Inspector and FORCE VSYNC on>?

Not meaning to high jack this thread but should I do what all the guru's say; Leave the Frame Limiter UNLIMITED in FSX and lock the FPS with the external FPS limiter and if I do that do I still need to go into Inspector and FORCE VSYNC on>?

Yes - I have found this works much better than using the FSX internal limiter.

 

Force VSYNC ON (1/2 refresh rate for 60hz monitor 1/4 refresh rate for 120hz monitor)

 

Try using standard and adaptive vsync - sometimes one is slightly better than the other I have found

 

I would be happy to take a look at your fsx.CFG file and your nvidia settings if you drop me a PM. A year ago I was in the same boat as you and felt just as frustrated - so I know how it feels!