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MINS and BARO knobs not working with mouse wheel

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Hello,

 

The MINS and BARO rotating knobs are not working with the mouse wheel in my FSX. To modify the QNH or minimums you have to press the knob in a direction and than it takes a lot of time to change it.

 

I'm the only one who is experiencing this issue?

 

Best regards,

 

Marco

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Correct behavior of the real plane. Please read the Intro document these and much more are covered there

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Hello,

 

The MINS and BARO rotating knobs are not working with the mouse wheel in my FSX. To modify the QNH or minimums you have to press the knob in a direction and than it takes a lot of time to change it.

 

I'm the only one who is experiencing this issue?

 

Best regards,

 

Marco

 

They are not rotating knobs - read the introduction, or the tutorial, or watch any of the last 20 videos from the beta team in which they told everyone about 10 times a video that they are not rotating knobs. They are spring loaded in the real aircraft and they were modelled incorrectly in the NGX.

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I had found extremely annoying that repetition of "these are not rotating knobs" in every single videoclip from betatester. Now I understand it wasn't repeated enough, obviously.

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Ok, but i think that the speed for setting the value is too low. It's impossibile that to move the BARO minumum from 400 to 1050 takes about 2 minutes of holding the knob.

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Again READ THE INTRODUCTION it says how to speed the setting!!!

 

And please sign your name!

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I JUST ASKED A QUESTION

 

Is that mandatory to see the beta testers video about the 77????

 

I had the B737 and the thing was different. I learned now that was a B737 error and not 777. Sorry for not watching 20 beta testers video!

 

And if you see that someone already answered the question, that's not necessary that you reply with the same thing!

 

And thank you to be so kind and gentle.

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No, to the mandatory video thing. But it has been explained time and time again to read the intro manuals before flying the thing. Everything you might think is an issue or just weird might just be a quirk of the real T7 and PMDG has written all about it in the introductory manual.

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I JUST ASKED A QUESTION

 

Is that mandatory to see the beta testers video about the 77????

 

I had the B737 and the thing was different. I learned now that was a B737 error and not 777. Sorry for not watching 20 beta testers video!

 

And if you see that someone already answered the question, that's not necessary that you reply with the same thing!

 

And thank you to be so kind and gentle.

 

You dont have to watch any beta-Video. However, you really should read the intro manual - there is a reason for it.

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There are 163 pages in the manual.

 

I don't think that's unusual to miss a paragraph, don't you think?

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There are 163 pages in the manual.

 

I don't think that's unusual to miss a paragraph, don't you think?

 

 

You can perform a pdf document search for 'mins' and/or 'baro' ...   ^_^

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I don't think that's unusual to miss a paragraph, don't you think?

 

Sure, but paying better attention could've helped to avoid all of this, particularly because there's a labeled section in the manual about things we knew people would get tripped up on.

 

That's why the intro manual was written.  We knew that these things would trip people up, and if they only read the thing, we wouldn't get the same question here all day.

 

...or at least, that's what we continue to hope.

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I simply think that to avoid all of this was necessary just one answer. The answers claiming that I need to watch about 20 beta videos are really helpless.

 

I haven't started the topic as an accusation to PMDG or saying like "this product if a s**t because of this knobs". I just asked a simpy, plain and kind question.

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I just asked a simpy, plain and kind question.

 

Understood.

 

...but also please understand the slight irritation that happens when you write, and provide, a document to help everyone sort things out, but it gets ignored.  This is not fully the case here, as it seems you at least took a look at it, but the question has come up several times, and people here are a little on edge from seeing it over and over again.

 

While it's not truly your fault, and you asked an honest question, you have to at least concede that much: it's been asked a load of times, and most of those times because people have ignored the intro manual.  Answering the same question over and over gets really old, really quickly.  That goes for anything...

 

I'm not faulting you for that, but it does underscore the importance of that manual, and referring back to it where necessary.

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Guys Relax !!!

 

Marck indeed you don't have to watch 20 beta videos. it is not usefull at all. No problem. Just read a bit the introduction manual and the FCTM/FCOM (if you have time) and it should be fine.

 

Enjoy your flights on the PMDG777 !

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You specifically asked:

 

(...)

I'm the only one who is experiencing this issue?

(...)

 

Reading the intro doc would have proven that there is no 'issue' at all.

 

I was rather reacting to your suspected 'issue' than to you not reading the manual.

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I simply think that to avoid all of this was necessary just one answer.

One answer to you, specifically... and another one to the next guy that asks, and the one after that.

We could put stickies on the forum, but the question would still get asked.

 

Maybe we should write a script so that when it detects the word "Scroll Wheel" in any post about to be placed on the 777 forum, the screen goes black and is replaced with a video with a marching band and a chorus singing "THE BARO AND MINS KNOB DON'T WORK WITH THE SCROLL WHEEL BECAUSE THE REAL PLANE'S BARO AND MINS KNOB DON'T ROTATE AROUND BUT ARE A 3 WAY SWITCH WHICH YOU HOLD LEFT OR RIGHT TO INCREASE OR DECREASE THE VALUE"

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Here is a tip (also mentioned in the Introduction document):

Set cockpit tooltips on from the FSX display settings->Aircraft menu.

We have added tooltips on all controls that need some "special" handling that they will guide you to the correct use.

 

Unfortunately tooltips are off by default in FSX.

If this wasn't the case or if there was a way we could force them on just for 777 flights (unfortunately not possible), we would have avoided all this.

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Understood.

 

...but also please understand the slight irritation that happens when you write, and provide, a document to help everyone sort things out, but it gets ignored. This is not fully the case here, as it seems you at least took a look at it, but the question has come up several times, and people here are a little on edge from seeing it over and over again.

 

While it's not truly your fault, and you asked an honest question, you have to at least concede that much: it's been asked a load of times, and most of those times because people have ignored the intro manual. Answering the same question over and over gets really old, really quickly. That goes for anything...

 

I'm not faulting you for that, but it does underscore the importance of that manual, and referring back to it where necessary.

And may I say, that intro document is VERY VERY well done! I am personally trying to write (right now actually) a manual for my company's IPTV service and it frustrates the heck out of me realizing that no matter how much I point this or that out, people will still ask. "It says here I should press this button to put the power on. Should I press there to put the power on?" Aargh

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"It says here I should press this button to put the power on. Should I press there to put the power on?" Aargh

 

I feel your pain!

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