September 26, 201312 yr Hi, when I started using the PMDG NGX almost every flight I've done, a fatal error occurs and FSX crashes it usually happens when I start setting up for descent or when I'm on base or on final. The last time it did this was today and I was about 10 minutes before dissent into Santa Ana KSNA, The two times before that both times I was going into Phoenix The first time going into Phoenix I was about 5 miles from the runway Second time I was on pace for runway 25L getting ready to turn onto Final. And the time before that I was about 10 miles out for Las Vegas. I only had major scenery at KPHX, flightbeam's. The rest were just ordinary AFCADS found on flightsim.com. Other add-ons I use while flying are AS2012, FScaptain, Alaska virtual ACARS and TOPCAT, none of which I was actively using when the fatal errors except UT2 occurred they were just running in the background. I couldn't get FSpassengers to work, so I started using FScaptain. I've only done 7 flights with the PMDG three have been successful and the other 4 have not. one of the flight with FSC was successful, and two without where successful and the other 3 with FSC froze. Oh and I'm using FSX. Any solutions? FSX, only addons, Ultimate traffic 2, Majestic Q-400 PMDG 737NGX with fs2crew voice and Flight beam's KPHX HD, Latin VFR KSAN HD, TOPCAT and FScaptain. Windows 7 Home Premium System_____________ Motherboard------------------------Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 Total amount of system memory-----16 GB Ram System type-------------------------64-bit operating system Number of processors---------------8 Storage_____________ total size of hard disk(s)-------931 GB Disk partition (C:)-------------743 GB free (931 GB total) Media drive(D:)--------------- CD/DVD Graphics_____________ Display adapter type----NVIDIA Geforce GTX 660 Superclocked Total available graphics memory--------4095 Dedicated graphics memory----------2048 MB Dedicated system memory-----------0MB Shared system memory--------------2047 MB Display adapter driver version---------9.18.13.527 Primary monitor resolution------------1920+1200 Direc X version------------------------ directX 10 Aaron Brazda.
September 27, 201312 yr i suspect OOM errors, but download AppCrashView here http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/app_crash_view.html Just run application, find FSX entries and find the latest crashes by date and time. Copy / Paste a couple of reports here Zeljko Budovic
September 27, 201312 yr Commercial Member Do you have UIAutomationcore.dll installed into your FSX folder? That could fix some menu related crashes at least...
September 29, 201312 yr Until you look at AppCrashView and determine what module is failing and what kind of error it is it will be hard to start pin pointing your problem. You are probably running out of memory or playing around with the menu bar to much. Both relatively easy to fix as told above. Captain K-Man FlightBlog Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCulqmz0zmIMuAzJvDAZPkWQ // Streaming on YouTube most Wednesdays and Fridays @ 6pm CST Brian Navy
October 5, 201312 yr Author Sorry it's taking so long for me to respond, I've been really busy. I will do the Appcrashview thing today or tomorrow. As for the out of memory thing I haven't got a message for that, don't think, all that's came up is a "fatal error has occurred fsx is restarting" and I was not messing with the menu bar at the times of the crash's. And yes I do have UIAutomationcore.dll installed. I will get the Appcrashview report up as soon as possible. Aaron Brazda.
October 6, 201312 yr Sorry it's taking so long for me to respond, I've been really busy. I will do the Appcrashview thing today or tomorrow. As for the out of memory thing I haven't got a message for that, don't think, all that's came up is a "fatal error has occurred fsx is restarting" and I was not messing with the menu bar at the times of the crash's. And yes I do have UIAutomationcore.dll installed. I will get the Appcrashview report up as soon as possible. That's why you need AppCrashView. There can be 50 things causing that Fatal Error. When we figure out which module it is originating from we can go from there. Captain K-Man FlightBlog Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCulqmz0zmIMuAzJvDAZPkWQ // Streaming on YouTube most Wednesdays and Fridays @ 6pm CST Brian Navy
October 6, 201312 yr Author Okay, it turns out I didn't have UIAutomationcore.dll installed, so I did, and it didn't crash on me. But I'll have to do a couple more flights to see if that was the problem. Aaron Brazda.
October 6, 201312 yr Okay, it turns out I didn't have UIAutomationcore.dll installed, so I did, and it didn't crash on me. But I'll have to do a couple more flights to see if that was the problem. Good. That file fixed many bugs for me. Another thing I do to make sure FSX runs the entire flight is to start my flight in Window mode. Let it load up. Load all my add-on stuff like VoxATC, FS2Crew and FSPassengersX, let the traffic spawn in at the airport and then I go to full screen for the the entire flight. When I land and dock at the jetway and shutdown the plan, I put the screen back into Window mode and exit out, that way the next flight will start in Window mode. Since I started doing that, I have not had a single OOM crash, no Buffer Overflow crashes, No menu crashes. I don't know what is going on behind the scenes but it works. Paul showed me the trick and it works like a charm. Captain K-Man FlightBlog Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCulqmz0zmIMuAzJvDAZPkWQ // Streaming on YouTube most Wednesdays and Fridays @ 6pm CST Brian Navy
October 6, 201312 yr Author Cool, I do all my flights in window mode, just because it's easier to get to TOPCAT. I'll be sure to let you know if it crashes again. Aaron Brazda.
October 14, 201312 yr Author That's why you need AppCrashView. There can be 50 things causing that Fatal Error. When we figure out which module it is originating from we can go from there. ok it crashed for some reason again. heres the report. 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responding and was closedConsentKey=AppHangXProcB1AppName=Microsoft Flight Simulator®AppPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\fsx.exeReportDescription=A problem caused this program to stop interacting with Windows. Aaron Brazda.
October 14, 201312 yr Well that's a new error message I've not seen. A quick search regarding that error yield several possibilities ranging from virus/Malware interference to a simply registry cleaning needing to done. Fly a few more times and see if you get that crash type a few more times. Captain K-Man FlightBlog Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCulqmz0zmIMuAzJvDAZPkWQ // Streaming on YouTube most Wednesdays and Fridays @ 6pm CST Brian Navy
October 14, 201312 yr Author Ok, I will. Norton might have done a automatic background cleaning or something. Aaron Brazda.
October 14, 201312 yr You might want to try this utility to help isolate the problem: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/what_is_hang.html
October 14, 201312 yr ok it crashed for some reason again. heres the report. FSX did not crash but hung up. If you are a computer expert you can try using the utility provided by FleetThought. You might even be able to send the results to Nirsoft and have them analyze it for you. Whenever FSX hangs up, it could be caused by many things. A program running in the background could suddenly start up and cause FSX to hang until it completes it's mission of looking for what it wants to do. There are many services on your system that run in the background. An anti-virus program, for instance, might be going on the Internet and looking for an update so they can provide you the best possible service and let you know immediately that an update is available (some have updates done automatically in the background.... not good if you are running FSX). I have had several AppHangs and, in my case, it was my weather program updating the weather. Maybe it had a problem getting to the server to find the latest updates but it happened at the same location every time and 100% of the time when I flew a certain flightplan. I did not activate my weather program (AS2012) and instead used the default weather program. Suddenly no AppHangs (I call them freezes too). With my current system and the final update to AS2012, I have not seen this problem reoccur even if I activate AS2012. Where did your application hang? While loading FSX or during a flight? This is important as if it happened during loading of FSX, what's loading when the application hangs is a major clue. AppHangs can also be caused by bad Fsx.cfg tweaks. This is why a ton of problems are fixed when the fsx.cfg is renamed to Fsx.orig, fsx restarted, and letting the config rebuild. All the tweaks are gone. So, that's how to figure out if it's the fsx.cfg tweaks/settings or not. Best regards, Jim Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
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