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TOGA push airborne below 400 feet

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When TOGA is pushed , airborne below 400 feet,  I get THR REF / TOGA / VNAV SPD , what is not correct ( the vnav was armed prior to Take Off, as it is normally used ) , .

It should be THR REF / TOGA / TOGA.  The FCOM ref is 4.10.20

 

Also, the auto pilot does not maintain the ground track present at mode engagement . The FCOM ref is 4.20.7

By the way, the Auto pilot ( when engaged at 200 feet while in trim, with one engine inop ) does not maintain any Heading or Track as well.

 

Apparently another bloomer from the technical beta team....

 

Vpira

  • Commercial Member

 

 


Apparently another bloomer from the technical beta team....

 

If you believe you have found bugs, the appropriate avenue to report them is support.precisionmanuals.com

 

You are not guaranteed a response from the team here as the post may get buried by others.  There's also no tracking here.

 

 

 

...also, there's no need to add in snide remarks about either the beta or tech team (they're separate teams, by the way).

Kyle Rodgers

 

 


By the way, the Auto pilot ( when engaged at 200 feet while in trim, with one engine inop ) does not maintain any Heading or Track as well.

 

Hmmmm,  why do you trim for an "inop" engine and engage the autopilot at 200 feet?

 

Billy Bluestar

I Earned My Spurs in Vietnam

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Made my morning B)

 

Best,

 

Arne Bergner

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Hmmmm,  why do you trim for an "inop" engine and engage the autopilot at 200 feet?

 

Billy Bluestar

 

777 Flight Crew Training Manual

Takeoff and Initial Climb

 

FCTM 777 3.35

Autopilot Engagement - One Engine Inoperative

When at a safe altitude above 200 feet AGL with correct rudder pedal input as

needed, the autopilot may be engaged. If the TAC is not operating, rudder trim

must be manually applied.

 

By the way, the PMDG 777 autopilot is only behaving "properly" ( this means, maintaining the TOGA ground track or TRK SEL or HDG SEL if engaged above 400 feet )

 

Billy, could you do me a favor and check if yours is doing the same? Thanx

 

Vpira

Billy, could you do me a favor and check if yours is doing the same? Thanx

 

 

I haven't had any problems with the PMDG B777.  It has performed as I had expected.  Base on my conversations with folks who fly it for a living this is a very good representation.  I just do what PMDG says and all is well. :smile:

 

On a personal note I would never engage the autopilot with an engine failure on departure.  It's a culture thingy.   YMMV.  :smile:

 

nanna ayya,

 

Billy Bluestar

I Earned My Spurs in Vietnam

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I haven't had any problems with the PMDG B777.  It has performed as I had expected.  Base on my conversations with folks who fly it for a living this is a very good representation.  I just do what PMDG says and all is well. :smile:

 

On a personal note I would never engage the autopilot with an engine failure on departure.  It's a culture thingy.   YMMV.  :smile:

 

nanna ayya,

 

Billy Bluestar

Hello Billy.

 

Try ask your friends about eng fail handling and Auto Pilot engagement. You will see that 98% of the real world pilots use the A/P as soon as possible. It Boeing culture thingy.

 

Did anybody else tried to engage the A/P after pushing TOGA while airborne? As I said before , my A/P is not holding the Track or heading if engaged below 400 feet.  Anybody could give me a feedback?

 

Vpira

When TOGA is pushed , airborne below 400 feet,  I get THR REF / TOGA / VNAV SPD , what is not correct ( the vnav was armed prior to Take Off, as it is normally used ) , .

It should be THR REF / TOGA / TOGA.  The FCOM ref is 4.10.20

 

Also, the auto pilot does not maintain the ground track present at mode engagement . The FCOM ref is 4.20.7

By the way, the Auto pilot ( when engaged at 200 feet while in trim, with one engine inop ) does not maintain any Heading or Track as well.

 

Apparently another bloomer from the technical beta team....

 

Vpira

Despite the fact that I think you should phrase things a little more polite/less insulting,

 

We have had a similar thread before:

 

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/423113-no-trk-or-heading-hold-on-take-off-airborne-below-400-feet/

Rob Robson

Oh, and last but not least.....

 

If you check the "issue tracking thread" you will see that this has been corrected!

Rob Robson

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Hmmmm,  why do you trim for an "inop" engine and engage the autopilot at 200 feet?

 

Billy Bluestar

 

Definitely agree that the OP isn't helping himself here...   However in fairness to him and those that want to try and simulate real world procedures, AP on at 200 feet (if available) is the standard procedure taught across every 777 operator I know off.  During a sim check you are most definitely expected to use it asap.

 

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Rob Prest

 

Oh, and last but not least.....

 

If you check the "issue tracking thread" you will see that this has been corrected!

I think they added that recently, as in after this thread.

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I think they added that recently, as in after this thread.

Yes that is possible.

Rob Robson

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