November 16, 201312 yr I believe that it is 175 lbs for the NGX and 195 lbs for the 777. Charlie FelixIntel Core i7 7700k @ 4.8 GHZ OC, Gigabyte Z270x G7 mother board, 32GB DDR4/2666, 1000 Watt power supply, GTX 1080i-11GB, 512GB & 1TB SSDs, 2TB HDD, Windows 10 Pro (64-bit)
November 16, 201312 yr Why would you want to change the default weights? Derek MacPherson At the risk of sounding cliche, I love planes.GTX 770 / i7-4790K / 16GB DDR3
November 16, 201312 yr Why would you want to change the default weights? Because in the USA they vary between winter and summer. See TABLE 2-1. STANDARD AVERAGE PASSENGER WEIGHTS of the FAA Advisory circular AC 120-27E. http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/84087a61b8fb9582862570220064e03c/$FILE/AC120-27E.pdf In the EU they are different for holiday charters and other flights See Table 1 of EU-OPS Subpart J Mass and Balance. http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2008:254:0001:0238:EN:PDF Gerry Howard
November 16, 201312 yr Commercial Member For what it's worth, only the assumed weights change. Granted, there's some merit behind changing the numbers - more/heavier clothes, trend to pack on a few pounds over the winter - but just because the industry changes the weights doesn't mean everyone is going to be that new weight. As I've stated in numerous threads before, the passenger load is just a notional value. Weight is weight. If you want to use a different "passenger weight," make the appropriate change in the ZFW. Kyle Rodgers
November 18, 201312 yr Hi, it's seems to remember that ngx is 80 kg (175 pounds) per pax. If you want to calculate (almost) precisely your pax weight you should firstly establish a ratio among male, female and children pax (i.e. 150 pax of which: 80 males, 60 females and 10 children) and then applying the standard weight according with rules (FAA/JAA or your country's i.e. male=78 kg, female 68 kg, child=12 kg) and then consider hand luggage (in europe usually max= 8 kg) and max cargo luggage (in europe usually domestic/inter european flight=20 kg) then summing up and applying this weight to the ngx load.. Ciao Andrea Buono
November 18, 201312 yr Correct, 175 for the NGX and 195 for the T7. This becomes important on the NGX and TopCat for example, if you wish to distribute the payload in the FMC according to the values shown in the TopCat Payload distribution page, after it's exported from PFPX. Abviously we are still waiting fot PMDG T7 in Topcat at this time. But, Christian does have an acrtion-item on his to-do list to make the weights part of the PFPX aicrfaft profiles vice the current method of a single Prefernce for the entire PFPX program. This will negate the need to change the weight prefence every time we switch aircraft. Regards, Al Jordan | KCAE
November 18, 201312 yr If you're just using PFPX, remember that to get it to match PMDG weights you have to modify the default "Weights" settings. There is only one set of weights so you have to modify it whenever you change from 737 to 777. They have an item on their to-do list to create multiple weight profiles. Charlie FelixIntel Core i7 7700k @ 4.8 GHZ OC, Gigabyte Z270x G7 mother board, 32GB DDR4/2666, 1000 Watt power supply, GTX 1080i-11GB, 512GB & 1TB SSDs, 2TB HDD, Windows 10 Pro (64-bit)
November 19, 201312 yr Author Ok, so set the PFPX and TOPCAT passenger weights to 80kg/175lbs? Aaron Brazda.
November 19, 201312 yr Ok, so set the PFPX and TOPCAT passenger weights to 80kg/175lbs? Yes, exactly and 195lbs if you plan to fly the T7. Here is a little something I wrote-up a while back for the NGX - read the entire thread first before tweaking. http://forum.avsim.net/topic/417842-topcat-pfpx-737ngx-weights-how-to/ Regards, Al Jordan | KCAE
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