November 30, 201312 yr As I understand things there are mainly four options with different pro and cons, 1) Stay with DX9 Pro Cost nothing and no work is needed. You won't see some glitches still present in DX10. Con You lose improved performance that DX10 gives. At least that was the case when I tried the free fixer on my Phenom II X4 with GTS250. Will the same be true for my current Haswell 4770K with a GTX770 ? 2) Use the free DX10 fixer Pro Cost no money but you need to do some work. Con Some features missing from the commercial fixer. 3) Use the commercial DX10 fixer. Pro The installer makes the work and you get a better improved product compared to the free one. Con Cost money. 4) Get P3D. Pro Here you get DX11 which is better than DX10 The best gain in performance Con Most expensive option Is it correctly understood ? Something to add ? Which alternative did you choose and why ?
November 30, 201312 yr Yes. It worth to say every PC is different. At my PC I never experienced improved performance with DX10 fix, whatsoever. [color=#a9a9a9][size=1][size=4][img]http://forum.avsim.net/public/style_images/flags/rs.png[/img][/size] Lj. Prodanovic[/size][/color]
November 30, 201312 yr As I understand things there are mainly four options with different pro and cons, 1) Stay with DX9 Pro Cost nothing and no work is needed. You won't see some glitches. ConAs a baseline, none. 2 and 3) Use the commercial DX10 fixer or Use the free DX10 fixer Pro Added effects. The installer makes the work and you get a better improved product compared to the free one. Improved frame rates Con May cost money. Jaggies harder to rid of. 4) Get P3D. Pro More added effects. Here you get DX11 which is better than DX10 The best gain in performance(only if you have a very fast video card) Con Most expensive option Many addons won't work or not allowed Is it correctly understood ? Something to add ? Which alternative did you choose and why ? I added/changed what I thought missing in red.
November 30, 201312 yr Hi jfri: Your first three, though very simplified, and missing a few points (such as a penchant for OOM's (#1)) are mostly correct, but I need to take some issue with #4: 4) Get P3D. Pro Here you get DX11 which is better than DX10 <<< This is not necessarily the case at all, and "better" needs to be amplified, as everyone in this hobby has a different idea of "better". DX11 is more complex than DX10, and that adds much additional overhead. In order to achieve a higher performance the underlying graphics coding has to be in-line with the "optimizing for performance" philosophy. The architectural change came with DX10, by moving all graphics processing from a shared memory between CPU & GPU architecture, to an all-GPU architecture. DX11 has built on that , and can almost be regarded as a superset of DX10. FSX gets fine performance and smoothness with DX10, plus many other benefits. The best gain in performance No, for the above reason. Con Most expensive option For sure, and with many legacy aircraft and scenery packages unable to be used anymore. This is not the case with the DX10 Fixer and FSX SP2. All the best, pj i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.
November 30, 201312 yr Most expensive option For sure, and with many legacy aircraft and scenery packages unable to be used anymore. This is not the case with the DX10 Fixer and FSX SP2. And it's not just a software change, for most simmers it's also a very expensive hardware change in order to achieve both performance and graphical improvement. [color=#a9a9a9][size=1][size=4][img]http://forum.avsim.net/public/style_images/flags/rs.png[/img][/size] Lj. Prodanovic[/size][/color]
November 30, 201312 yr Author I added/changed what I thought missing in red. That leads me to the question if my GTX770 2G is very fast video card ? Hi jfri: Your first three, though very simplified, and missing a few points (such as a penchant for OOM's (#1)) are mostly correct, but I need to take some issue with #4: 4) Get P3D. Pro Here you get DX11 which is better than DX10 <<< This is not necessarily the case at all, and "better" needs to be amplified, as everyone in this hobby has a different idea of "better". DX11 is more complex than DX10, and that adds much additional overhead. In order to achieve a higher performance the underlying graphics coding has to be in-line with the "optimizing for performance" philosophy. The architectural change came with DX10, by moving all graphics processing from a shared memory between CPU & GPU architecture, to an all-GPU architecture. DX11 has built on that , and can almost be regarded as a superset of DX10. FSX gets fine performance and smoothness with DX10, plus many other benefits. The best gain in performance No, for the above reason. Con Most expensive option For sure, and with many legacy aircraft and scenery packages unable to be used anymore. This is not the case with the DX10 Fixer and FSX SP2. All the best, pj For now I'm trying to decide if it's worth the money to buy the commercial DX10 fixer.
November 30, 201312 yr That leads me to the question if my GTX770 2G is very fast video card ? For now I'm trying to decide if it's worth the money to buy the commercial DX10 fixer. From what people are seeing in P3D section, faster the video card the better for sure. For me, a GTX770 would not be fast enough. I've been doing some DX10 testing at the moment and will most likely go the Fixer route. Much cheaper than a new video card.
November 30, 201312 yr For now I'm trying to decide if it's worth the money to buy the commercial DX10 fixer. Here is what I got from the commericial DX10 fixer which was not in the free version: 1. The ability to use nvidia inspector AF (anisotropic filtering) 16x, which is a most noticable image quality improvement. 2. The ability to enable cockpit shadows in most of my paid addon aircraft. 3. A fix for the blinking street lights at night (a DX10 problem). 4. The ability to fix problems with textures for payware airports and aircraft (though I have yet to use this feature). 5. Some minor but useful bug fixes in the free version, and generally a better experience overall. If the above is something that you'd really like to have, then the price is 100% worth it IMO. PaulJ's DX10 "How-to" guide is a must read for using DX10, and using the free DX10 fixer comes down to this: 1. Install it. 2. Add the AA settings in your fsx.cfg file as per the guide. 3. Add the nvidia inspector settings as per the guide. 4. Enable DX10 preview and a few other setting in FSX as per the guide 5. Restart FSX and go for flight and enjoy the DX10 enhancements. If you are an 'entrenched' FSX user, i.e. lots of addons, fly VATSIM and other online servers, and have customized controllers, be aware that with P3D you will lose a lot of ground in these areas, whereas with DX10 fixer nothing is lost (well, maybe some texture issues with a few airports and aircraft). CPU: AMD 9800X3D PBO MB +200 CO -25| Motherboard: MSI MAG X870e Tomahawk WiFi | GPU: MSI RTX 5090 Ventus 3X OC | RAM: G.Skill 2x32GB DDR5 6000 cas 30 | M.2 SSDs: Samsung 990 EVO Plus 2T, WD Black SN750 M.2 1T | Hard Drive: WD Black HDD 6T 7200 | Optical Drive: LG Bluray writer, internal | Cooling: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO | Case: Fractal Design Focus G | PSU: NZXT C1200 1200W Win 11 Pro 64|HP Reverb G2 revised VR HMD|Asus 25" IPS 2K 60Hz monitor|Saitek X52 Pro & Peddles|TIR 5 (now retired)
November 30, 201312 yr Missing points relative to addons: 1) FS9 - Oldest technology with regard to addons. Pro - some excellent addons exclusive to FS9 - Examples RFP 742, Dreamfleet 727. 2) FSX - Best selection of the latest and greatest addon aircraft. PMDG NGX & 777, ConcordeX, Majestic Q400, and lots of of others. 3) P3D - Great potential to port over aircraft but there are problems and not all of the top addons will be made available, costs unknown for others. Mark CYYZ
December 1, 201312 yr 3) P3D - Great potential to port over aircraft but there are problems and not all of the top addons will be made available, costs unknown for others. :lol: Always the optimist! :lol: - just don't lay out too much money on that one, Mark! i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.
December 1, 201312 yr :lol: :lol: i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.
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