FTX Global vs GEX

[odourboy]

 

 

but I can say that when I read about Vector I decided to stay with UTX for the time being. Just my personal choice.

 

+1

 

I'm certainly satisfied with FTXG overall. As for the rest of the Global 'suite', I'm going to wait until the Land Class products come out and the Vector product does some maturing... then decide.

[simmerhead]

 

With all due respect, FTXG is not that dramatic an improvement to FSX.  I've seen this comment made many many times before I purchased FTXG.  I finally decided to give it a try knowing all to well that these claims were not true based on the pics I had seen but I still bought it around Xmas.  While it is definitely an improvement over default FSX, it is absolutely no where near making FSX into FSXI.  Unless maybe you are Kermit the Frog.

 

GEX and FTXG are better than default textures.  They are also just different when compared to each other.  They are just different "artists" impressions.  Neither one is better than the other and it depends on what region you are flying in as to how close it comes to reality with. IMO, FTXG maybe comes closer in regions that are supposed to be green and GEX winning in the other areas as it isn't as green everywhere.

 

But, anyway, the FTXG is FSXI is just an opinion and no where close to fact.

 

 

Calling FTX Global a dramatic improvement is an understatement in my opinion. It is by far the best addon I have ever owned since installing my first mod in 1998. It is one of the milestones that has kept me going in this hobby against all odds. It is as essential to me as using a joystick or yoke instead of the keyboard to fly. You have your opinion and I have mine.

[klamal]

You have your opinion and I have mine.

 

Yep, we do have our own opinions and beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess.

 

I guess with a product like this, there really isn't much of a way to state what is true or fact.  It's all going to be interpreted by each one of us in a different way.  That's why I wished there was a demo version of it so I could have seen it for my own eyes before buying.  I don't know that I'd say I regret buying it, but it just is to me no where near the same effect as it seems to have for you.

[CFIJose]

With all due respect, FTXG is not that dramatic an improvement to FSX.  I've seen this comment made many many times before I purchased FTXG.  I finally decided to give it a try knowing all to well that these claims were not true based on the pics I had seen but I still bought it around Xmas.  While it is definitely an improvement over default FSX, it is absolutely no where near making FSX into FSXI.  Unless maybe you are Kermit the Frog.

 

GEX and FTXG are better than default textures.  They are also just different when compared to each other.  They are just different "artists" impressions.  Neither one is better than the other and it depends on what region you are flying in as to how close it comes to reality with. IMO, FTXG maybe comes closer in regions that are supposed to be green and GEX winning in the other areas as it isn't as green everywhere.

 

But, anyway, the FTXG is FSXI is just an opinion and no where close to fact.

Since you did NOT read it the first time here's the statement again:

 

If I were starting from scratch, I would choose FTXG, FTX Vectors, FSX Global, and ST LC. This would cover the world and upgrade FSX to FSXI.

[Mephic]

FsGlobal2010+ftxglobal+ftxvector is what I have currently so mesh, texture and vector data is covered. Yes, ftx vector is not the best solution in v1.0 but patch 1.1 is going to change A LOT as this is a bit different approach and rewriting of the software which just confirms that ORBX listens to what customers have to say.

 

For me it was a no brainer - now I need only openLC packages (orbx promised it will be under 19aud/package) and I have landclass covered

 

For my PMDG it will be über cool. And my realair duke deserves orbx Australia so this one will come too.

 

Neither of the landclass products which are available on market right now are perfect. From what I've read in reviews they are far from it. I really look forward to openLC as this may change A LOT.

 

But it is always OP call.

[klamal]

Since you did NOT read it the first time here's the statement again:

 

If I were starting from scratch, I would choose FTXG, FTX Vectors, FSX Global, and ST LC. This would cover the world and upgrade FSX to FSXI.

Sure.  And I can see that point if you were starting FSX from scratch.  It would be cheaper and give you the world.  But as to which is better, there is no correct answer.  The part that I still don't agree with is that FTXG makes FSX into FSXI.  But, as I said, this product is not one where you can write out some facts about it and prove one way or another it's impact for each individual's experience.  You think it's FSXI.  I think it's an improvement over default, that's for sure.  But isn't a game changer like some others seem to think.  There is no way to prove.  It's all opinion and for a product like that, it would have been nice to have a demo to see for yourself whether it's really worth it.  So, no one is right here.  Or, no one is wrong here.  It's all opinion and that's it.

[CFIJose]

Sure.  And I can see that point if you were starting FSX from scratch.  It would be cheaper and give you the world.  But as to which is better, there is no correct answer.  The part that I still don't agree with is that FTXG makes FSX into FSXI.  But, as I said, this product is not one where you can write out some facts about it and prove one way or another it's impact for each individual's experience.  You think it's FSXI.  I think it's an improvement over default, that's for sure.  But isn't a game changer like some others seem to think.  There is no way to prove.  It's all opinion and for a product like that, it would have been nice to have a demo to see for yourself whether it's really worth it.  So, no one is right here.  Or, no one is wrong here.  It's all opinion and that's it.

Kevin,

 

I did not write that FTXG alone would upgrade FSX to FSXI. I listed 4 separate programs and they will come at a price.

 

Anyone can download the ORBX demo and see how those 4 programs will look together. It's a major overhaul.

 

BTW, FTXG covers the world with textures and 3d night lighting and it costs less. The decision for me to go with FTXG was easy.

[Mephic]

Some example what orbx+pilots did in my sim (and what I like

 

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/01/19/hUw6y.jpg

 

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/01/19/GeodU.jpg

[klamal]

Kevin,

 

I did not write that FTXG alone would upgrade FSX to FSXI. I listed 4 separate programs and they will come at a price.

 

Anyone can download the ORBX demo and see how those 4 programs will look together. It's a major overhaul.

 

BTW, FTXG covers the world with textures and 3d night lighting and it costs less. The decision for me to go with FTXG was easy.

 

Ah, ok.  Sorry.  I see what you're saying now.  Ok, makes sense now.  I'm a little slow some times but I eventually catch up.  LOL  

[woodhick]

One thing further the OP may be interested in knowing is that using FTXG will make available to him the many Orbx freeware airport upgrade packs.  There are (at last count) seven freeware packs that total something like 20-25 airports ranging from medium sized airports like KMTN Martin State in Baltimore MD to I69, the home of Sporty's Pilot Shop.  These packs give the user enough upgraded airports to last for weeks if not months of flying.  I do know that KMTN includes Orbx "people flow" technology.  I'm sure others do too.   While seeing figures moving on the tarmac may not be a deal maker/breaker, it is fun.

[ailchim]

This has been extensively and viciously covered before.  So far we haven't got to vicious and let's keep it that way.

 

I'm sure taken in isolation FTX Global is excellent but you've said you already have GEX & UTX so the question is not whether FTX is better but whether it's sufficiently better to cover the cost of buying it.

 

i.e. you might ague a Mercedes is a bit better than a BMW so if you don't have a car, buy a Mercedes.  If you already have a BMW though would you then throw it away and buy a Mercedes? 

 

I do have GEX and UTX and I don't have any FTX products so I can't comment on the relative technical benefits.  Looking at some of the arguments above, you have to decide if they are advantages to you.

 

1) FTX Global covers the whole world.  Do you want to fly all over the road or are you perfectly happy flying within your GEX/UTX areas?  You say you do so that's a significant tick in a box for you but perhaps not for others.

2) FTX Global works in P3D.  Do you have any immediate intention to move over to P3D?

3) FTX Global is cheaper.  You already have GEX & UTX so the question is not which is cheaper but whether the incremental benefits of FTXG + worldwide Vector + world wide Land Class are worth paying for. 

[NRiese]

The scenery tech landclass link doesn't work I think. I have no idea what it is and why it's needed if I buy FTXG and use it together with UTX. I'm not thinking of going into P3Dv2 in the near future, but one day I might.

[woodhick]

You need a landclass program to tell FTXG what scenery tiles go where, ditto the scenery tiles (or whatever they might be called in UTX) in UTX.  Once Orbx releases their "OpenLC (OpenLandClass)" programming you will need to replace the S-Tech landclass with that--I can simply guarantee, sight unseen, it will be far, far better than either S-Tech or Cloud9 landclass.  But you need a landclass program. 

 

No, the link won't work properly for some reason.  Follow this link to Flight1, click on Scenery over on the left under Categories, and enter "scenerytech landclass" in the search box (no quotes)and hit "go"

[NRiese]

The link directs me to some aircrafts, haha. Anyway, I found it myself. It will be pretty expensive to cover every region. Is this a must-have to use FTXG? And what's OpenLandClass? Is that a landclass addon coming soon too, or?

[Mephic]

UTX has landclass as well but not as complex as openLC will be. UTX provides vector and landclass data but from what I have seen landclass Often does not correspond to reality so it is poor at it.