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A2A Cessna 172?

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Just wanted to say this. This airplane, to me, is one sweet trainer.  It's completely functional as far as I can see.  The graphics are really good, gauges are very, very smooth.  It feels really nice both to do the preflight and have to use your brain to start the engine. At the end you can go through the checklist if you want or, like I saw a lot in the RW, just cut the mixture, turn off the switches and turn the key off at the end.  Lots and lots of attention to detail in the model.  I am using a different air file (one thing I notice is that the controls sensitivity on the one that comes with the A2A are much more sensitive)  but, for sure, the takeoff roll seems like a real Cessna roll, climbout really feels like a real Cessna climbout.  Also, you can change your cockpit configuration inside the sim...on the fly, so to speak with a simple config panel.  Truly remarkable and they're still making improvements.  It's my first A2A airplane and I'm very pleased with what I got.  I'd just beg them to make a C182 version.

 

Gregg

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"A good landing is when you can walk away from the airplane.  A great landing is when you can reuse it."
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We are not sure what other GA planes A2A has up it's sleeve, but no doubt they plan on doing others.  A V35 Bonanza was indirectly 'hinted' as a possibility as is a Piper Comanche (A2A' chief Scott, owns a real one)  Like many future projects, they are not definite, time will tell if they are to be produced by A2A.

 

A2A's next release is the Cherokee 180 (based on a 1965 model) which nearing the end of beta testing and in the 'soon' phase.  I recommend checking out the development video posted on the A2A forum.  They could very well follow this Cherokee 180 with other PA28 variants, including the Cherokee 235.  The Cherokee 235 was Piper's answer to the Cessna 182.  

 

Other known A2A planned projects include a T-33, F-104, and F-4, tho the complexity of adding Accusim to complex supersonic jet fighters is immense and probably quite a few years off still, so the T-33 will be a great first jet for Accusim.  Accusim is a separate module that runs outside of FSX, thus greatly enhancing aircraft systems in detail and aerodynamics that are well beyond FSX's internal capabilities.  

 

You might have noticed that you don't just press a start button or ctrl-e to start an accusim plane.  You must start it like a real plane, taking into account ambient temp, oil pressure, use proper leaning procedures and so on.  Runup checks make a difference because the RPM drop during a mag check can actually exceed tolerances.  The likelyhood of a failure is based on 'your' flying habits.  Treat the airplane well, and things will less likely fail.  Mistreat the airplane, and it will bite you back...not right away, but possibly later, when you least expect it :)  Of course, the C-172 is a very forgiving airplane, much more so than the P-51, but you should still practice good pilot habits.   Accusim will illustrate what happens if you don't. B)

 

Cheers

TJ

"The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." - Douglas Adams
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Tejon 'TJ' Stanley

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I am using a different air file (one thing I notice is that the controls sensitivity on the one that comes with the A2A are much more sensitive) 

 

There has been much debate on this subject when the Accusim C172 was released. Scott tested the real C172R Skyhawk extensively and concluded that the aircraft has sensitive controls and it takes off almost without input from the pilot. He even made a comparison video about it: 

 

 

Nevertheless, many people in flightsim world are used to less sensitive controls and our joysticks/yokes usually lack the force feedback and precision of the real controls. So we have added a slider on the Shift-3 panel with which you can adjust the elevator sensitivity of the C172 in FSX to your liking. You should try this out with the original air file. 

Michael

A2A Simulations

Rather than abort a perfectly good flight model because it doesn't suit YOU why not use FSUIPC and set a custom slope for the elevator and aileron axis if they are too sensitive for you.

Cheers, Andy.

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A V35 Bonanza was indirectly 'hinted' as a possibility as is a Piper Comanche (A2A' chief Scott, owns a real one)

 

Please, not a forked-tail. 

 

 

 


Nevertheless, many people in flightsim world are used to less sensitive controls and our joysticks/yokes usually lack the force feedback and precision of the real controls. So we have added a slider on the Shift-3 panel with which you can adjust the elevator sensitivity of the C172 in FSX to your liking. You should try this out with the original air file.

 

We could probably start a whole thread on this subject alone.  I have a CH Yoke which probably plays into it.  With the default setting, even a tiny amount of movement when flaring causes the airplane to want to bloom.  But, what I'll do is put the default air file back on this morning and do some tests using that video as a guide (thanks for that) and see if it's a perception problem or just something I've gotten used to with my other aircraft.

 

 

 


Rather than abort a perfectly good flight model because it doesn't suit YOU why not use FSUIPC and set a custom slope for the elevator and aileron axis if they are too sensitive for you.

 

That's a possibility but I'll know more after I do some testing. 

 

Gregg

Gregg Seipp

"A good landing is when you can walk away from the airplane.  A great landing is when you can reuse it."
i9 64GB RAM, GTX-5090

Greeg,

 

I also noticed that with my CH yoke. Most airplane are way too much sensitive to elevator movement. I have modified most of my air file and used flatter profile in fsuipc to correct that problem. Interesting to see that modeler incorporate slider in their products.

Pierre

P3D when its freezing in Quebec....well, that's most of the time...
C-GDXL based at CYQB for real flying when its warming up...

The 172R is sensitive in pitch and is a 'finger tip' flyer.  This means fly with your finger tips on the yoke, not a solid grip.  Using the fingertip method you will have better control of the 172.

"The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." - Douglas Adams
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Tejon 'TJ' Stanley

 

 


The 172R is sensitive in pitch and is a 'finger tip' flyer.  This means fly with your finger tips on the yoke, not a solid grip.  Using the fingertip method you will have better control of the 172.

 

And fly with the trim wheel ... important to keep it trimmed.

 

Cheers, Rob.

lol yep....trim trim trim...every time power change...trim ^_^

"The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." - Douglas Adams
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Tejon 'TJ' Stanley

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Unfortunately a bit late in the day due to a RL emergency with my first ever Ambulance ride but here as promised is a little notification of the next update with a bunch of new features and updates.

 

Accu-sim core update 2.0

http://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=40084

 

cheers,

Lewis

Lewis - A2A Simulations

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