Flight Dynamics

[WarpD]

It is marked as an obsolete record, but not an unused record, which means it probably still has an effect. At least other obsolete records still do.

[mgh]

Gregg_Seipp (post #160) seems to have further knowledge.

[Gregg_Seipp]

 

 

Gregg_Seipp (post #160) seems to have further knowledge.

 

Truly, I'd like to see someone with a forcefeedback controller try out a maneuver with the TDuke or some other airplane to see if the airfoil forcefeedback works.  As mgh pointed out, the note at the top of the category indicates that it may have been deprecated...but I'd hope that the items under the top node aren't because there doesn't seem to be another place to set airfoil forcefeedback.  E.g. Do a steep dive, pull back power to idle and pull out of it to see if the controller gives a fight.

 

Or, someone could email Rob at RealAir....

 

Gregg

[ZG862]

Control Surfaces (320).  AAM has some descriptions for some of them.

 

I feel at least a little bit vindicated.

Presumably Microsoft saw limited take up of the hardware and figured (sadly) that this was a blind alley.

 

Z

[Gregg_Seipp]

I feel at least a little bit vindicated.

 

Presumably Microsoft saw limited take up of the hardware and figured (sadly) that this was a blind alley.

 

I wouldn't be so sure.  That section of the air file also includes the dimensions of the control surfaces...useful stuff.  Maybe when the IRIS yoke becomes available we'll know a lot more. 

 

EDIT:  The yoke is shipping...for those that want so spend $1600...*coughs*.

[ZG862]

I wouldn't be so sure.  That section of the air file also includes the dimensions of the control surfaces...useful stuff.  Maybe when the IRIS yoke becomes available we'll know a lot more. 

 

EDIT:  The yoke is shipping...for those that want so spend $1600...*coughs*.

 

I've only skimmed the site (and it was a few weeks back) but had the impression that the Iris calculates its forces "off sim" - presumably from velocity and aircraft data via Simconnect (?) Hasn't it got it's own Arduino board? Maybe it uses data from the section of the file you're referring to but I would guess that they can't rely on this being present. I hope the price reflects outstanding fidelity...

 

Z

[Gregg_Seipp]

 

 

I've only skimmed the site (and it was a few weeks back) but had the impression that the Iris calculates its forces "off sim" - presumably from velocity and aircraft data via Simconnect (?) Hasn't it got it's own Arduino board? Maybe it uses data from the section of the file you're referring to but I would guess that they can't rely on this being present. I hope the price reflects outstanding fidelity...

 

You may be right there.  I'd kinda hope such settings (pressures, movements) would be adjustable, however, I wouldn't think that most simmers would have a clue how to do so...unless a RW pilot is able to lend a hand.  Quite honestly, when I was following this thread, I was working on an FDE and was blown away at how wrong my flight controls were for that airplane.  Truly, it's something people need to pay attention to.  Developers don't know what kind of hardware people will use so I think they err on the side of caution...make it 'broad enough' for any hardware.  Anyway, don't just rely on the default slope in FSUIPC. 

[Lewis B]

Hi Mike,

 

I've flown a few versions of the PA-28 including a '66 140 and currently train students on a couple of 161 Warriors. I just find the general handling of the A2A Cherokee to be quite unpleasant - nothing like the real thing which is easy to fly even for beginners.

 

I have recently reinstalled P3D so will reinstall and have another go after reading your post

 

Cheers

 

Adam

 

Hey Adam have you ever flown an earlier 180C Hershey bar wing out of interest? Would be interested to hear more on this even if via PM as your experiences differ so much from the pilots and instructors etc who helped with the development or since release have posted on our own forums.

 

Also the feedback is yes a big part and it is a real shame that force feedback stopped being produced as it could have been developed by now into something really special for not just home simmers but also for the professional market. The IRIS yoke project is certainly something to keep an eye on for aiding in the feel of the flight model, which as others have hinted at, when it comes to simulation some of that flight model is not in the software but in the hardware and the mindset of the human behind that virtual aircraft.

 

thanks,

Lewis