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Hey, I know that guy, he works at the convenience store down the block!! Maybe he could get in on this action also, LOL.

 

You would think there wouldn't be any contact with the outside in a Panamanian jail

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I thought Noriega, was convicted in the US, and serving a sentence in a Federal SuperMax Prison?

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I thought Noriega, was convicted in the US, and serving a sentence in a Federal SuperMax Prison?

 

He was extradited by the french to Panama

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Oh Noriega... I guess he's just bored at home and decided to try out Black Ops 2 that he bought during the summer sale.

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I can understand him in a way, because the developers of Call of Duty sometimes create disgusting scenes that have affected the developement of young people very badly. Always making "America" the superhero" while everyone else as the "bad guy"

 

Moscow airport scene killing civilians anyone? That's where this "company" should really have been sued to the ground.

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Moscow airport scene killing civilians anyone? That's where this "company" should really have been sued to the ground.

I remember that, it was MW2, back in 2009. It wasn't made by this same studio. Activision is only the publisher, I think Infinity Ward was the developer on that game.

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I remember that, it was MW2, back in 2009. It wasn't made by this same studio. Activision is only the publisher, I think Infinity Ward was the developer on that game.

 

Well, it caused a huge scandal not only in Russia but also worldwide and was the point where I personally stopped caring about this sort of games...

 

There's some great ones from Russia thougj, such as METRO 2033. Really good one....

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Playing some, welcome to the jungle that will bring back good ole days

Playing some, welcome to the jungle that will bring back good ole days

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Well, it caused a huge scandal not only in Russia but also worldwide and was the point where I personally stopped caring about this sort of games...

 

I remember that. The mission was called "no russian" and even the pre-mission briefing gave me a feeling of dread before I even knew what was about to happen. To protect your cover, you had no choice but to go along with the terrorists and help them mow down all those people. I stopped at that point in the game and was never able to complete it.

 

Though the scene made sense as part of a madman's plot to frame the US, leaving behind evidence that made it look complicit in a terrorist attack on Russia, killing all those civilians left me extremely squeamish.

 

I don't object to it as a work of fiction: novels and movies have imagined horrifying scenarios since the dawn of storytelling. I just couldn't participate, when the level of modern graphics made the whole experience feel so real on such a visceral level.

 

Videos of that mission are on YouTube, and if you happen to take a look, you will cringe.

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I remember that. The mission was called "no russian" and even the pre-mission briefing gave me a feeling of dread before I even knew what was about to happen. To protect your cover, you had no choice but to go along with the terrorists and help them mow down all those people. I stopped at that point in the game and was never able to complete it.

 

Though the scene made sense as part of a madman's plot to frame the US, leaving behind evidence that made it look complicit in a terrorist attack on Russia, killing all those civilians left me extremely squeamish.

 

I don't object to it as a work of fiction: novels and movies have imagined horrifying scenarios since the dawn of storytelling. I just couldn't participate, when the level of modern graphics made the whole experience feel so real on such a visceral level.

 

Videos of that mission are on YouTube, and if you happen to take a look, you will cringe.

 

It was really disgusting and I never even played it. This game should have been banned worldwide and huge suits taken action against the developers who made this game. Whether it's Russia, America, EU, China, anywhere, killing hundreds of innocent civilians is simply unacceptable not to mention the whole experience was graphic. What's even more sad to see, is all the kids posting "haha, we killed russians" sort of comments in their badly moderated forums.

 

I've read some horrible things in books as well, but they do not have the same effect and the whole thing takes place in your mind being delivered trough text hence it is different. And sadly most young people of today do not read so it will not influence them in a negative way.

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Ban? Possibly, if you are successful in getting enough people to support it. (the fact that it never happened on any large scale should be informative!)

 

Sue? For what exactly? Being upsetting and maybe even insulting? If you could do that, I would immediately sue "Jackass, the movie"

 

The comments on the internet? That's what the internet does. If somebody announces that their nose is available for tweaking, then hordes of people with nothing better to do will immediately line up to start tweaking away.

 

I sympathize; I just don't think you would get very far in cultures with strong traditions of freedom of speech.

 

About as far as Mr Noriega will.

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If freedom of speech advocates killing civilians in video games, and posting hate speech against a certain population, then it is not as good as many people think. It's extreme to have a scene where you have to kill your own people and in my opinion its enough to shut down the whole game studio. We're different people with different views so I can't explain it well enough.

 

Human rights is a vital thing, but it's getting too far. Not in every country it's a "strong" tradition and certainly Noriega knows it, hence he should at least be compensated for that.

 

I have no idea who he is or what he has done, but even if he was a dictator it is wrong for movies/video games/whatever media to replicate the story in a false way.

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 We're different people with different views so I can't explain it well enough.

 

 

at least one thing I agree with you on.

 

it's a video game. If users are brought up without any morals or ethics or in a toxic environment, banning a game or sueing a game company isn't going to make them less of a threat to the public..

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I have no idea who he is or what he has done, but even if he was a dictator it is wrong for movies/video games/whatever media to replicate the story in a false way.

The only thing "false" about his portrayal is that compared to what he really did do, it makes him look like a sissy, comparatively speaking of course.

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I just couldn't participate, when the level of modern graphics made the whole experience feel so real on such a visceral level.

There's an option in the game to skip the mission entirely, or to tone down the violence without affecting the rest of the story.

 

It was really disgusting and I never even played it. This game should have been banned worldwide and huge suits taken action against the developers who made this game. Whether it's Russia, America, EU, China, anywhere, killing hundreds of innocent civilians is simply unacceptable not to mention the whole experience was graphic. What's even more sad to see, is all the kids posting "haha, we killed russians" sort of comments in their badly moderated forums.

No. Banning of the game worldwide? No thanks. The world has enough censorship already. Think about it. In Germany, Australia, and Austria, MANY games are heavily censored to meet the demands of the respective rating boards. It's ridiculous that, in 2014, certain games in those countries are given "low-violence" versions.

 

Again, the option to skip the mission or to tone down the violence was always available.

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Well, I guess if the scene was about killing Americans or Europeans in an airport there would be a huge wider outrage than only with Russians. It's hard to explain but it will definitely not get past. Even if it was let's say germans, the public in Germany would be in outrage.

 

I guess you have to be Russian to understand why this is so wrong, I don't know. But the point is, simply the developers who were probably young people without any morals or ethics thought it was perfectly fine to have a scene killing people of some country across the atlantic and I hope this will not be done again. Even if you can skip it, this was made available later, not in the beginning. It shouldn't even have been sold here until it was banned.

 

I don't like censorship either, it has existed many decades ago. Some for the worse and some for the better. But there is simply a few music files, games, and movies which are simply a bad developement for the public. The media is responsible for how messed up the world we live in today is.

 

Anyway, I don't want to cause any more fights if I guess as usual at least someone will not like this post. I get a long with different people of the world really well in real life hence I don't know why it's so different online. However, I just wanted to express why the ban might actually have been beneficial.

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Well, I guess if the scene was about killing Americans or Europeans in an airport there would be a huge wider outrage than only with Russians. It's hard to explain but it will definitely not get past. Even if it was let's say germans, the public in Germany would be in outrage.

 

Eh. There are plenty of Foreign-made games in which Americans (and others) are fair targets.

 

My reaction, and that of most gamer's (rather than political and journalistic types, whose whole careers are about being righteously outraged about this, that, or the other thing on a daily basis) is to roll our eyes, and stifle a yawn.


 

 


There's an option in the game to skip the mission entirely, or to tone down the violence without affecting the rest of the story.

 

Wonder if they added it later? Still wouldn't have helped. After that, I just lost interest. I was more bummed than after Aeris's death in Final Fantasy 7!  :lol:

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I was more bummed than after Aeris's death in Final Fantasy 7!  :lol:

Shhh!! I haven't played it yet!

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I just chose to skip that one level and enjoyed the rest of the game immensely. I agree that the airport level was very tasteless and unnecessary to get the story across and they could have mentioned the massacre during one of the mission briefings or in a newscast cut scene instead. Playing the level where Russian paratroopers were landing in a US suburb had a bigger impact on me than watching clips on youtube about the airport level.  

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