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Hello dear pilots!

 

I've got one sinple question (hopefully).

 

Since the installation of service pack 1c the screens of the F/O turn black when I shut down the engines after landing. Of course the APU is running. Is this the normal behaviour or am I doing something wrong? I already searched within the manual but I could not find this point.

 

Greetings from Germany!

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Guten tag! (excuse my spelling, I only learned gausthaus deutch while there in the USAF).

 

If normal power is lost, backup power is provided to the primary displays; therefore, it is possible that you are seeing the results of a power loss regardless of your APU status.  Look at the ELEC screen, the APU box should be green before you shutdown engines. Hopes this helps.

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Hey "Guten Tag" is perfect;)

 

Thanks for your reply. I will try and check it out! I hope I can do it before next weekend but I'm not sure. This annoying "real life" steals my time;)

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I'm also getting this problem.

 

I assume the people involved on the other thread submitted a support ticket to PMDG, what was the reply please.

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Glen,

As I have been told on more than one occasion.  It's the best thing if you submit a ticket, that way PMDG have more information on which to base a fix.  I would encourage you to do so

 

Tim

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This is exactly what happens! Thanks for the link!

 

Please share your solution with the rest of us. Danke

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OK, I will submit a support ticket and keep you informed!

 

Have a nice evening....well, in Germany it is evening;)

 

Patrick

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Are any of you going directly from the original version directly to SP1c (as in, you never updated to SP1 or SP1b prior to SP1c)?

 

At one point, users were supposed to delete the existing panel states before installing one of the SPs (might have been SP1 or SP1b - I forget which, since the beta process had us do full uninstall/reinstalls for each build to ensure nothing from past builds affected the new build). If you did not do that, then I'm willing to bet that that's what the issue is.

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In my case I installed the original version last year, followed by the service packs in order of appearance.

I always start my flights in the cold and dark state.

 

Well, I submitted a ticket and I'm waiting for response.

 

Greetings

Patrick

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At one point, users were supposed to delete the existing panel states before installing one of the SPs (might have been SP1 or SP1b - I forget which, since the beta process had us do full uninstall/reinstalls for each build to ensure nothing from past builds affected the new build). If you did not do that, then I'm willing to bet that that's what the issue is.

 

This is happening to many more people than I thought. Sometime ago I submitted a ticket on this subject too and also waiting the solution. After SP1b I concluded that the old panel states could be the cause, but I've never created a panel state. I've always used the PMDG panel states.The problem remained.

 

But I don't remember any warning about this in SP1c docs. Anyway, this issue is still happening and I remember now about something said associating this electric problem to autolandings. Manual landing wouldn't lead to this issue.

 

That's it boys

 

Regards,

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Hi,

 

I have just made a manual landing at KPHX rwy 26, taxied to West Cargo and could shut off without loosing FO's power, as described here.

 

In my last 5 or 6 autolandings I always lost FO's power when shutting off at the stand, no matter APU was on or even GPU was on and power applied. Yo no creo en brujas, but something is really going on here. How can an autoland influence on lost of power during shutoff?

 

Regards,

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How can an autoland influence on lost of power during shutoff?

 

It's been described in this thread, actually.

 

The systems split electrically for redundancy when an autoland is being conducted.

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Just made an autolanding and had the same issue. I shut engine 2 down once parked, connected the GPU and switched both primary and secondary power from Avail to On, which I confirmed on the ELEC system screen. However, once I shut engine 1 down, the F/O screens and FMC shut down. After a few minutes, the screens and FMC switched on again, and it seemed as if the plane went from cold & dark to a powered state.

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It is definitely a problem that is connected with an autoland. Just did a short flight from UUEE to EFHK with autoland. Parked at the gate, APU green, shut down right engine, everything stable, shut down left engine, power loss.

Ticket is submitted, could this be a bug?

 

Patrick

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It is Patrick. Nothing to do with panel states, as it does it with fresh ones.

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Just landed OMDB-EGCC, APU on as per FS2Crew Landing Brief, and my F/O screens did not turn black after engine shut-down.

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Just landed OMDB-EGCC, APU on as per FS2Crew Landing Brief, and my F/O screens did not turn black after engine shut-down.

To clarify, since you didn't reference the part that matters here: this is only reported as happening after an Autoland...

 

If you didn't Autoland then what you're seeing makes sense.

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Aha, Kyle, that part slipped my attention. As I habitually only hand-fly this lovely easy-to-manage plane once on LOC, I rarely auto-land, but will give that a try next flight.

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Okay, just done a reverse Emirates EGCC-OMDB flight landing Rwy 12L auto-land, and sure enough, during the roll-out, I had 3 weird screens. Outside View Locked showed the planes skeleton with all the seats visible, then the VC had yellow blotches top of the instruments,and2P7yf.jpg finally, all the PF and F/O screens just turned back. Has never ever happened when hand-flying the approach. See screenshots:


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Can anyone confirm that this happens only with saved panel states or does this also occur with the default panel state. I currently don't have the time to check.

 

Thanks in advance

Patrick

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This happened with the panel state set by FS2Crew which I think is Long from the very start-up of loading this plane. It's a panel state I've been using all the time since FS2Crew was released.

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And to add to Ricks comments, this issue was pre fs2Crew, and as I posted above, fresh panel states, and does not matter which panel state you use.

Rick, I would send those screenies to support via a ticket, could be useful. I have never gone to external view, so have not picked up on the skeleton issue

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