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Markito

Getting desperate with my 777-200

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Hello guys,

 

After following related topics with the OOM issue, and having read and followed the instructions described in the intro manual I start getting desperate with my FSX displaying an error message and/or crashing to desktop. What I mean is:

 

- I checked my FSX.cfg settings and already had the HIGHMEMFIX=1 and the [JOBSCHEDULER] AffinityMask=14 entries, the FSX.cfg LOD_RADIUS value set to 4.500000, etc.;

 

- I did the UIAutomationCore.dll fix;

 

- I reduced my general settings;

 

- I always use only the add-on airports from which I take off and land on - all other scenery entries are not activated;

 

- I even deactivated high-resolution textures for FSDT airports PHNL and KORD;

 

- I have ASN SP1 installed, but I tested a flight without any clouds, i.e., clear skies;

 

etc.

 

I cannot possibly imagine what else to do. It is my fifth time to try to make a flight between Honolulu and Chicago. It really is frustrating...

 

Any other (more) suggestions appreciated. Thanks in advance.

 

Kind regards,

 

 

 

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Try a reinstall of ASN and possibly a reinstall of the T7.

 

On a side note, did these OOM's just start happening recently with no prior issues?

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Hi, Dan.

 

Thanks for your reply. I had already the T7 installed when I bought ASN. Yet I only tested the T7 after installing ASN.

 

I had some OOM issues but that was with FSDT KJFK, Aerosoft Manhattan X and REX weaher engine running at the same time when I flew into KJFK. I do not use REX weather engine anymore.

 

Thanks again for your suport.

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Some are reporting a decrease in OOM problems when uninstalling then reinstalling ASN. Worth a try.

 

It is local, most users rarely have an OOM and the only ones I get are at KLAX with FSDT airport. Flown the PHNL KORD route too with no problem.

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Hello Dan, hello guys...

 

I can't believe it... I uninstalled ASN, I reinstalled the T7 without ASN, and put FSX settings to significant minimums. Flew today again from PHNL to KORD and almost close to TD, FSX froze and crashed to desktop. How will it behave when I reinstall ASN. I don't want imagine that...

 

Any other possible suggestions? :mellow:  :(  :mellow: :Cry:80P

 

Thanks for all your support.

 

 

 

 

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Can you try FSX-SE ?  Everybody is saying it's a LOT more stable and OOM-free... There are still problems with some add-ons not being partially or fully supported, but even the PMDG 777s are now fully FSX-SE ready!

 

ASN doesn't yet have an installer for FSX-SE though, but you can use the free FSXWX and it works beautifully, iven if we can't really compare the functionality, and of course you will not be able to use the weather radar...

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Can you try FSX-SE ? Everybody is saying it's a LOT more stable and OOM-free... There are still problems with some add-ons not being partially or fully supported, but even the PMDG 777s are now fully FSX-SE ready!

 

ASN doesn't yet have an installer for FSX-SE though, but you can use the free FSXWX and it works beautifully, iven if we can't really compare the functionality, and of course you will not be able to use the weather radar...

FSX:SE cannot be OOM free. It has exactly the same 32 bit limitation as FSX. One of the reasons it's a lot more stable is because fewer addons can be added in to it at the moment. Once users can start loading it up with extras like they used to load up FSX then we will see if running FSX under Steam really is better or not.

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Hi guys!

I really do not want to use FSX-SE. But thanks anyway for the hint.

I started a "shorter" flight this morning between HNL and SFO. No CTD. :lol: :rolleyes: I will try out another flight - again a much longer one this time. Let's see how FSX behaves :Praying:

Thanks to all of you for your replies and support.

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FSX:SE cannot be OOM free. It has exactly the same 32 bit limitation as FSX. One of the reasons it's a lot more stable is because fewer addons can be added in to it at the moment. Once users can start loading it up with extras like they used to load up FSX then we will see if running FSX under Steam really is better or not.

VAS management is much improved also. I've gotten FSX-SE up to 3.9GB on takeoff and watched it drop to 3.2 GB during flight until landing at LAX 14 hours later with a 3.6 GB load. My FSX-SE settings are all one notch higher than FSX. That's with FSGlobal, FTX Global and FTX Vector, REX clouds, AS2012 (for now), 100% AI with about 200 traffic files and the AIShips packages in DX9. It's even better in DX10.

 

I'd OOM in FSX boxed with the same settings and addons over the same flight because the VAS does not release as efficiently.

 

My performance is about the same, but the VAS management is superior in my experience. YMMV.

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VAS management is much improved also. I've gotten FSX-SE up to 3.9GB on takeoff and watched it drop to 3.2 GB during flight until landing at LAX 14 hours later with a 3.6 GB load. My FSX-SE settings are all one notch higher than FSX. That's with FSGlobal, FTX Global and FTX Vector, REX clouds, AS2012 (for now), 100% AI with about 200 traffic files and the AIShips packages in DX9. It's even better in DX10.

 

I'd OOM in FSX boxed with the same settings and addons over the same flight because the VAS does not release as efficiently.

 

My performance is about the same, but the VAS management is superior in my experience. YMMV.

 

Can you tell me what you're using for traffic? I'm on FSX-SE and I've only ever used UT2 and without it I'm a bit lost...

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Hello Dan, hello guys...

 

I can't believe it... I uninstalled ASN, I reinstalled the T7 without ASN, and put FSX settings to significant minimums. Flew today again from PHNL to KORD and almost close to TD, FSX froze and crashed to desktop. How will it behave when I reinstall ASN. I don't want imagine that...

 

Any other possible suggestions? :mellow:  :(  :mellow: :Cry:80P

 

Thanks for all your support.

 

 

I don't know what to tell you, other than something else going on with your setup. Since I reinstalled ASN, not a single OOM, despite multiple long-hauls (finishing up KMSP-RJAA right now). So, it worked for me. Was just a suggestion for something to try.

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VAS management is much improved also. I've gotten FSX-SE up to 3.9GB on takeoff and watched it drop to 3.2 GB during flight until landing at LAX 14 hours later with a 3.6 GB load. My FSX-SE settings are all one notch higher than FSX. That's with FSGlobal, FTX Global and FTX Vector, REX clouds, AS2012 (for now), 100% AI with about 200 traffic files and the AIShips packages in DX9. It's even better in DX10.

 

I'd OOM in FSX boxed with the same settings and addons over the same flight because the VAS does not release as efficiently.

 

My performance is about the same, but the VAS management is superior in my experience. YMMV.

Good to hear some objective reports about it. My main point was that it isn't OOM free, it can't be. If memory management is better that's great. Mind you 3.9 GB VAS is sailing very close to the wind.

 

On my PC FSX releases memory fairly well, I rarely get OOMs. Maybe it's due to the addons I have (or don't have). I've not seen FSX memory leaks such as many people report. If they are a problem then maybe FSX:SE is a solution. But as you say, YMMV.

 

It would be interesting to know whether the apparent improvements are as a result of running FSX under Steam or because DTG have modified the way FSX manages memory.

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Well, guys, I am going to reinstall ASN soon. Will first try another flight, long-haul this time.

As far as FSX-SE is concerned, I'll wait some time before trying that out.

Best wishes to all of you and thanks again for the replies! :Applause: :Applause: :Applause:

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Markito,

 

what i would suggest it do is disable any custom scenery in libraries or any scenery u downloaded into addon scenery folder, and restart FSX and try again just basic flight.  I doubt its 777 or ASN, what i seen is if u install some bad scenery and fly over it over time that eats up VAS.  Also check what modules you load with FSX in ur xml file.  if goes well then start adding things back until breaks.

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Can you try FSX-SE ?  Everybody is saying it's a LOT more stable and OOM-free... There are still problems with some add-ons not being partially or fully supported, but even the PMDG 777s are now fully FSX-SE ready!

 

ASN doesn't yet have an installer for FSX-SE though, but you can use the free FSXWX and it works beautifully, iven if we can't really compare the functionality, and of course you will not be able to use the weather radar...

At this point FSX:SE is no different than FSX:CS (classic) . My FSX:SE is so unstable on the Win8.1 that all the last 11 flights I have done none landed due to an array of crashes ranging from ai_player.dll crashes to terrain.dll crashes.

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I don't know what to tell you, other than something else going on with your setup. Since I reinstalled ASN, not a single OOM, despite multiple long-hauls (finishing up KMSP-RJAA right now). So, it worked for me. Was just a suggestion for something to try.

Hello Dan,

Thanks for your suggestion and helping hand. I reinstalled ASN and it things are working fine now. Flew several long-hauls and FSX behaved normally, probably due to reduced general settings.

Best wishes... :rolleyes:

Markito,

 

what i would suggest it do is disable any custom scenery in libraries or any scenery u downloaded into addon scenery folder, and restart FSX and try again just basic flight.  I doubt its 777 or ASN, what i seen is if u install some bad scenery and fly over it over time that eats up VAS.  Also check what modules you load with FSX in ur xml file.  if goes well then start adding things back until breaks.

Hi Andre,

I normally deselect the scenery items, particularly add-on scenery items, which I do not use during a flight from A to B. Thanks for the hint... :smile:

Cheers,

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All I can say is that if you plan to use Flightbeam or other high quality sceneries, then DX10 is the only way to eliminate them (and reduce LOD Radius to 4.5).

I have setup flights from KLAX-KSFO with Flightbeam addons with the NGX and 777 and guaranteed OOM's when DX9 is enabled.

When I have DX10 set, then OOM free.

That alone was worth the price of the DX10 fixer for me.

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Jude, it depends.  I have no problem with Flightbeam, FSDT or Aerosoft Mega airports. I always turn off locations with photoscenery if I'm not visiting there, neither of which Flightbeam or FSDT employ. Only place I've gotten OOM is at LAX, which is as much a scenery settings problem as anything else.  No DX10 her now or ever for that matter.  DX11 in P3D is working pretty good. 

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You might want to check this :Using the sound preload options in SP1:

SP1 adds options that allow for the caching of 777 sound files in memory. This was done in attempt to eliminate the stuttering that some users have experienced as sound files load. If you are having OOM issues, we recommend selecting the default NONE option. This will only loads sounds into memory as they’re needed and releases them from memory 60 seconds after playback. This will significantly reduce the VAS load vs. the SELECTIVE or ALL options. (See page 105 for more information about this feature.)
 
I had 1 oom with this enabled, after I disabled preloaded sound files, no more ooms. I have all FSDT airports and can fly 16 hrs w/ asn and rex4 textures @2048. I do not run any orbix or photo scenery. Hope this helps, Chris Longo

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FSX:CS (classic)

FSX in other words. It doesn't need renaming.

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Hi Chris,

Thanks for your reply. Actually, I have never put my fingers on the sound options. As you mentioned it, this item was set to default, i.e. NONE.

Cheers,

Marco :smile:

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