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SP2
Fixes
EHSI display problem
Takeoff gear warning
Fuel consumed indicator
Other minor issues

Improvements
Autopilot behaviour
Antiskid implemented
Altimeter behaviour

 

SP1
Plus, all the fixes and improvements of the previous service pack 20150126

Fixes
ITT over limit
N1 digital readout over 100%
FMS time issue
EHSI layout
Fuel consumption with engines off
TCAS issue
USA flag turned around in some liveries
Autopilot pitch knob adjusted
Some tooltips showing wrong information
Flap mouse manipulation issue
Other minor issues

Improvements
N1 reference box implemented
Gear unlocked light implemented
Flight dynamics improved in climb
Climb, takeoff, landing and other new information added to the Performance document

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I see they did not add Janek's Altimeter InHg mod.

 

Ray

Ray,

 

Is the altimeter mod posted somewhere? I can not find anything on it searching "altimeter" in the forum. Thanks for any help.

 

Joe

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Ray,

 

Is the altimeter mod posted somewhere? I can not find anything on it searching "altimeter" in the forum. Thanks for any help.

 

Joe

The Altimeter mod for InHg showed up in one of JanekBin's mod, I'm sure it is in V1.3. (Top Pic)

 

I would like to see an ASI mod to show digital knots and digital mach. Similar to this one. (bottom pic)

 

Regards,

Ray

Altimeter mod.jpg

S550_ ASI_ray.jpg

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Is it safe to instal this SP on top of Berts Mod`s, will it affect his outstanding work. B)

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Is it safe to instal this SP on top of Berts Mod`s, will it affect his outstanding work. B)

There are some conflicts. When the mods settle down, maybe we can get Bert and Janek to sit down over a couple of beers and come up with the Best of the Best.

 

Regards,

Ray

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Is it safe to instal this SP on top of Berts Mod`s, will it affect his outstanding work. B)

 

You can install SP2, and then disable my mods by renaming or removing the gauge folders in your panel folder.

 

If you would like any of my stuff back, re-enable the folder..  I know, this is cumbersome..

 

Not quite sure if I am going to bother.. it might take more than a couple of beers.

 

Another way, is to have multiple panel folders, one with my mods, one without.

 

For example, called panel,  panel.SP2, and panel.GTN

 

In the aircraft.cfg file, have one paint with panel=   , one with panel=SP2,  and one with panel=GTN

 

Call them anything you want.

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I have a hybrid of the three - SP2, Bert's Famous Mods, and Janek's Mods v1.3

 

I chose to have texture 1 belong to Janek, Texture 2 plane belongs to Ray, Texture 6 belongs to Bert and My T-47 belongs to Carenado SP2. That way I can look at the exterior color and know which mods I am flying with at the moment. This lets me switch between mods (by switching planes) very quickly.

 

The conflicts have to do with the AP, EADI, VSI and clickspots for popups mostly. Janek has a totally new EHSI with new buttons along the bottom. He is also working on some of the gauges like the Altimeter fix and the digital Airspeed. Janek is on vacation for a week or so and maybe we can figure out what he has before he comes up with v1.4. ha.

 

Some of Bert's Famous Mods are now included with SP2 so it will take a little time to figure out what we have. Bottom line is it is getting better and better every day.

 

One tidbit is to remember that Bert's changes are in folders and Janek's changes are in the Gauges and cabs. So usually the sim will choose the folder first, the CAB second in case of duplicates. (duh, me thinks)

 

Regards,

 

Ray

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I hope that Janek and Bert will merge their mods one day. Both are great guys who make our citation wayyyyy better. They both have specific mods for each package. You have to pick one package but you know you lose something one the seocnd.

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You can install SP2, and then disable my mods by renaming or removing the gauge folders in your panel folder.



If you would like any of my stuff back, re-enable the folder.. I know, this is cumbersome..

 

Thanks Bert but i`ll leave your mods in, it fly's great as is.

 

Rick

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You can always setup two airplanes, one always up to date with Bert's mods and the other ready to go with Janek's. You can have the GTN and the FMS in the same panel in a 3rd plane if you like.

 

I would expect there will be a surge in interest in the FMS edition in a couple of weeks when Navigraph is available. And should the VC install kit for the GTN750 show up and leave the MFD intact for on board flight charts with digital checklists scrolling by on the MFD we will have what marketing calls a 'Sensible Citation'.

 

The potential for very pleasurable flying low and slow and high and fast with modern up to date nav data at our fingertips could be just around the corner.

 

Regards,

 

Ray

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I hope that Janek and Bert will merge their mods one day.

 

They already have......  Bert's mods are included in Janek's current v1.3 of his mod.   Obviously not Bert's GTN750 mod, as you wouldn't have a GTN in there at the same time as the (ISG) FMC.

 

But all Bert's AP improvements are included in Janek's latest mod version now.

 

Me, I'm going to pass this SP2.  I've lost confidence in Carenado's updates a little, and doubt whether they listen or take note of the feedback we email them.

 

My S550 is flying fantastically now, thanks to Berts and Janek's work.  

 

"Why fix it, if it ain't broke?"

 

The only thing I'm really interested in from Carenado for this aircraft, is a native model update that puts the (full size) F1 GTN750 into the panel.

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They already have...... Bert's mods are included in Janek's current v1.3 of his mod. Obviously not Bert's GTN750 mod, as you wouldn't have a GTN in there at the same time as the (ISG) FMC.

But all Bert's AP improvements are included in Janek's latest mod version now.

Well, some are included but not most and for sure not all of them. You can't have both of their popups and VSI type changes at the same time. The EADI also has a few choices to make, but maybe Janek's v 1.4 will get them a little closer. Bert goes for the mouse wheel and Janek opts for press and hold and so it goes. One likes the Annuc panel and one don't, etc.

 

The AP is a lot smarter now than it was, for sure. Janek is taking the ESHI and MFD coupled with the ISG1 to a whole new level. VNAV and LNAV with Navigraph data in an H D corporate jet is on just everyone's wish list. Now if we just had that VC install kit for the GTN750. . . .

 

Craig,

 

I don't know why you wouldn't want to have both the ISG1 and the GTN750 installed at the same time. I think is is the most practical of all the options. Big screen online and in the panel electronic charts to supplement the FMS is very practical and desired by many, including me.

 

Cessna did exactly that with the center mounted MFD screen in the Primus 1000 about ten years after the S/II and in the CJ1+. Both the FMS and GTN can co-exist just fine.

 

Regards,

Ray

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As far as I'm concerned the only thing lacking from this a/c from SP1 with Berts Mods is the Fuel Consumption gauge that was implemented on SP2... If we can find a way to add that to Berts Gauge folder and the cfg - We all set. all the other SP2 items Bert has adressed already.

 

Just my .02.

 

If anyone knows what files/code was added to SP2 to activate that gauge in the panel we can figure it out....

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Flighto, knowing your taste from other threads (and Carenado planes), how good is the plane now, after SP2? Worth recommending since it's fun for at least some time to come or would you put her in the 'just another one in my hangar' category, running the risk of being forgotten when the next Carenado release is out?

 

Haven't bought her yet, hence my desperate research. ^_^

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The Good:

 

The flight dynamics are nearly spot on. I mean they are almost PMDG good.

 

The model and textures are typical Carenado eye popping. However, repaint kits are still terrible.

 

The sound is fairly good if you consider you are wearing some sort of ANR headset. (Muffled correctly.)

 

Their systems are there but many lead to dummy switches that do no more than turn on a Warning, Caution or advisory lights. (Inverter test switch still does nothing, Weather Radar operates with Weather Radar OFF, STBY, TEST, Pressurization still likes to stick at -2,000 feet and scale is off for 8.8 PSID aircraft, fuel crossfeed is hidden, fuel cutoff levers are difficult to reach with mouse, ect)

 

Avionics are OK with many fixes to EFI-550 and SPZ-500 but still the autopilot does not operate per book. While this is understandable with no TCS available in FSX/P3D the IAS is still V/S based and not pitch based. IAS always pitches down when selected and over pitches when new IAS is selected. You can also exceed the limits of the actual SPZ-500 system.

 

FMS is still at best a very lightweight version suitable only for those who have no interest in actual FMS operation. They should scrape the Universal name off the device and call it what it is, Carenado Super Simplified Long Range Navigation System with limited features. It has as much functionality as some freeware FMSs.

 

Is it worth $45? That depends on how much you enjoy flying a 1984 Cessna II with moderately upgraded avionics. Remember it is called slowtation for a reason, this is not a jet on rails and this thing flies fairly close to the books. Try climbing direct to Fl430 at 15,000 lbs and you are going to be disappointed. Cruise climb this bird and she will do better. Hot and high, she is a pig. But a pig that will get you in and out of short airfields comfortably and still cruise at over 360KTAS. 400 KTAS is doable under the best conditions but she is not a daily 400 knotter.

 

Some people have had problems with fps. I have a i7 4770K (no oc) and a Nvidia 760 with 2GB and I have not had any stutters. I also use REX for weather and have some highly detailed airports that I have gone in and out of. I have noticed some texture swaps (usually in scenery) and it does take a moment to load this airplane. Overall the aircraft flies very smoothly on my rig.

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Thanks for the write-up, Ken. How's your take on the FMC update? As a person already using the plane and liking it, would it add something for you or do you consider it very optional?

 

On another occasion, it seems like the SP2 really helped with some of the initial and SP1 problems. Good outcome so far.

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Cool...

 

I would agree with Ken.....And I may add that this bird does not fly well above FL390/FL400 at any weight. FL390 seems to be mas usable ceiling for this model.

 

I would recomend this a/c only if you are planning on using the GTN750 or the IGS FMS. Unfortunalry I am still running SP1 as I went the GTN route with Berts mods and there have been no post SP2 mod version made - So here I sit stuck in SP1 - however SP1 with Bert mods is just as good as SP2 I would assume.

 

I recomend the GTN750 as well.....Awsome gauge.

 

Hope this helps as well.

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Thanks for the write-up, Ken. How's your take on the FMC update? As a person already using the plane and liking it, would it add something for you or do you consider it very optional?

 

On another occasion, it seems like the SP2 really helped with some of the initial and SP1 problems. Good outcome so far.

 

See this thread on the FMS. http://forum.avsim.net/topic/463159-hot-news/ We will have to see if Carenado changes anything when they release the FMS that can be updated or if they are just going to add a different Navigraph database and leave the default functionality.

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(this may interest Bert P, and others;)

 

As far as I can tell from some initial tests, SP2 seems to correct the phenomena where when IAS mode was used, the vertical speed would always move to 500 FPM, before then moving to the correct (variable) vertical speed that maintains the speed, when the mode was engaged.

 

It seems IAS mode now "locks on" to the speed when the button was pressed, and immediately adopts a pitch/vs rate that maintains the speed.

 

Excellent result if it's the case.

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I think I just get her now, with SP2 and considering the RXP unit for as long as the reports on the FMC come in.

 

The GTN is high on my list too but I think this gauge would need more than the MFD screen (which seems like a nice workaround for the lack of real integration nonetheless). Lets hope Carenado also provides a model update to integrate the GTN, as Ray has said.

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