June 13, 200520 yr Commercial Member Holger,First of all let me say "sebclod9" is awesome! I live very nearby, in fact my home area (North Idaho) appears to be included in this mesh, or at least is right on the border. I generally fly North every chance I get, so it's a vast improvement for me.When I first installed the mesh I went to Castlegar and like Mark, I had the "walls of water". I renamed "HP916130.bgl" and "HP916140.bgl" to "*.old" and now the terrain looks right except the massive bodies of water are gone and the area bridges have a stairstep effect where they apparently span water that isn't there anymore. Same thing happened at Revelstoke.I have no other non-default sceneries installed, with the exception of the Norway Mesh and Norway Scenic from your other thread here on the forums. I am also using Peter Wilding's "Award winning Replacement water textures" (pwover16.zip), but I can't see where that would have anything to do with it.Here's a couple screens, any suggestions?Castlegar:http://www.cat-tamer.com/attach/castlegar.jpgRevelstoke:http://www.cat-tamer.com/attach/revy.jpgDo I need "bcablakefixv2.zip", and if so, where can I get it? Can't seem to find it in the library here.Thanks,Jim
June 13, 200520 yr Commercial Member Hi Jim,indeed, you need bcablakefixv2.zip to replace the default water with the more accurate version (though my efforts don't extend very far south of the border).The direct link is in one of my posts above. Or, on the FSGenesis site - http://portal.fsgenesis.net/index.php -, select Downloads, then Geography; it's the only file in that section.Cheers, HolgerP.S.: I live just north of the ID border - maybe we can meet one day at N49 for a handshake? ;-)
June 14, 200520 yr Commercial Member Yep, that link was as plain as the nose on my face now that I went back through again, sorry. Got the file, I'm going in for the install now. I'll post back in a bit.Oh, how I hope you came as far south as Bonners Ferry with the lake fix, on closer inspection I see that the terrain mesh does in fact cover my area and OMG, what a difference! Only problem is the Kootenai is missing where it runs through town. The "bench" and the valley are so much better defined now. All of the sudden I know my way around!I just checked your profile, looks like we live about 45 mi apart! Do you snowmobile :) ?Jim
June 14, 200520 yr Commercial Member OK, I would have posted this earlier, but I got lost in the sim for a couple hours thanks to this new mesh! I'm very happy to see that "bcablakefixv2.zip" fixed my Kootenai river. I've never seen flight simulator like this before. This mesh is unbelievable!A flight over the Southern Selkirks had me absolutely stunned! A couple winters ago I rode my snowmobile up onto Apache Ridge here in Boundary County and took a series of photos looking to the West across the Pack River drainage. Later I "stitched" the photos together in Photoshop to make a panorama.Today I slewed to that approximate location in the sim and took another series of screenshots, which I also stitched together. The comparison is unbelievable. Please download this .zip file from the link below to see what I'm talking about. Extract the entire contents of the .zip file to a temporary folder and double click "chm-rck.html". Both the RW pano and the simulator screenshots appear on the page at approximately the same size, one directly above the other. You'll have to scroll horizontally quite a bit to see it all, but check out the similarity of the ridge lines and the peaks. "As real as it gets?" I should say!http://www.cat-tamer.com/downloads/chm-rock.zip (672 KB)I still haven't made it back to Castlegar or Revelstoke, but I'm sure the water is fine now with "bcablakefixv2.zip" installed. Thanks a million Holger, I'm off to check out some of my other snowmobiling areas :)Jim
June 14, 200520 yr Hi, one more question on this topic - I have some stray shorelines around Revelstoke. I've found ...Flight Simulator 9SceneryUTUSASceneryHP916140.BGLapparently installed by Ultimate Terrain. Presumably it should be disabled as well? Sorry if this is repetitious - I didn't see this one mentioned previously, tho...Thanks -- Dick Bixler
June 14, 200520 yr Ran out of editing time...EDIT: Tried disabling it, didn't eliminate the extraneous shoreline; couldn't tell yet if anything else was broken.I always find the terms "above" and "priority" ambiguous because they are opposite to layer= in the scenery.cfg. So perhaps I layered wrong? I have===========================Priority========Layer==========================(in FS UI)====(in scenery.cfg)BC enhancements for UT - landclass......1.............464BC enhancements for UT - scenery........2.............463... ... ...Misty Fjords Scenery..................313.............152Misty Fjords Landsca..................314.............151Ultimate Terrain - USA................315.............150Ultimate Terrain - Canada/Alaska......316.............149... ... ..Western North America.................453..............12... ... ..Default Scenery.......................463...............2Default Terrain.......................464...............1(Sorry, can't get the columns to line up: each line is name, priority, layer.)Dick Bixler
June 14, 200520 yr Commercial Member Hi there,... the neverending thread... ;-)Jim, that's a great comparison shot - thanks for sharing! I can see Twin Peaks and Silver Dollar Peak from my house, only from the other side ;-)Dick, the UTUSASceneryHP916140.BGL covers the area south of the US/Canada border only.Your scenery priorities look okay to me. I realize that "above" and "below" can be ambiguous but I always refer to the Scenery Library and, in fact, tend to tell people not to edit their scenery.cfg directly (it's easy to introduce typos or errors that way).Anyway, not sure where your double shorelines may come from. Do a system-wide search for active .bgl files that contain "HL91613" and "HL91614" in their name (HL* files are shorelines, HP* files the water polygons). The only active ones should be in UTCanadaScenery and UTUSAScenery.Hope that helps.Cheers, Holger
June 14, 200520 yr WWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWW!Thanks, Holger for all the help. I now have everthing set perfectly. I'm creating a charter tourist flight for my VA, DC3Airways using your Columbia River Gorge scenery as the starting point for a round robin up to Chelan, across to Yakima, around Rainer, S to Mt. St. Helens and then back to landing at KPDX. After I finish this, I can hardly wait to do something similar using the new BC upgrades.Again, a big thank you!Sherm
June 15, 200520 yr Holger, Here is a new one. I moved the bgl files, per the instructions, out of the scenery folder. Now I have about 20+ airports missing in the Alberta menu, and about 6 or 8 airports are missing from BC. (I have two systems side by side. One has only the 9e scenery installed. I only have the new 2005 file on the second tube, plus the FSgenesis download. Should I also install 9d, 9e, and p2? Otherwise, I could make a list of the missing airports caused by the removal of the bgl files. Then I could make new AFCAD2 files for all of them on the default system, compile them, and then upload them here in the library. Cheers, Bruce F
June 15, 200520 yr Commercial Member Hi Bruce,if you have missing airports then you must have moved the wrong default bgl files. The default airfield files start with AP9, AB9, and FL9. Make sure that you didn't move any of those.The bcablakefixv2.zip file available at FSGenesis is the same stuff as bcmesh9d/9e/p2 combined, just without the terrain mesh. If you don't have FSGenesis terrain mesh files then use sebclod9.zip.Cheers, Holger
June 17, 200520 yr HolgerA query regarding snow cover in your BC-Alberta Scenery. There are areas of high elevation that I would expect to have snow in early summer that don't and other areas at much lower elevations such as around Lake O'Hara that seem to have permanent snow - see attachment from a flight in mid August. When I last visted Lake O'Hara it was mid July and it was very green - no snow around the lake. Can anything be done to provide more realistic snow cover?Bruceb Bruce Bartlett Frodo: "I wish none of this had happened." Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."
June 17, 200520 yr Commercial Member Hi Bruce,my Lake O'Hara area looks different than yours ;-) I suspect that you have your Ultimate Terrain entries higher up in the scenery library than my "BC enhancements for UT - landclass" entry? If so, then the UT landclass, which isn't very accurate outside of residential areas, will override my landclass file.With the default landclass system there is not much control for elevation dependency in terms of snow cover. It requires a different, more labor-intensive approach, which I used for the custom textures and landclass files in "Misty Fjords". There you'll have lingering snow in spring at higher elevations and in forest cutblocks as well as early snow up high in the fall.Cheers, Holger
June 18, 200520 yr Thanks HolgerLooking through my addon scenery folder I seem to have a number Canadian scenery entries of various types but I don't seem to have your "BC enhancements for UT - landclass", where do I get this from?I have found similar snow cover anomalies in scenery for New Zealand and in my own country of Australia where it is way off. Is it possible to customise landclass files using EZ Landclass to create more realistic snow cover - I would particulary like to do this for the Snowy Mountains area in SE Australia.Bruceb Bruce Bartlett Frodo: "I wish none of this had happened." Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."
June 18, 200520 yr Commercial Member Hi Bruce,sorry, I made the assumption that you have UT with my new ut_bc_hs.zip installed.If you do have Ultimate Terrain, try ut_bc_hs.zip. If you don't then grab my bcablakefixv2.zip at FSGenesis: http://portal.fsgenesis.net/modules.php?op...wdownload&cid=5. The landclass file in either version will provide a more realistic representation of the vegetation types and distribution of glaciers in the southern Rockies.If you want to work on your own landclass for Australia then I'd suggest starting with the MS FS2004 Terrain SDK - http://www.microsoft.com/games/flightsimul...sdk.asp#terrain - particularly TerrainTextureNames.doc as well as Christian Stock's Terra Model Manual, tmf_Manual.zip here in the library. With the knowledge provided in those two documents you can then use EZ-Landclass or a similar tool to assign specific classes bases on a good source map or image (e.g., free satellite imagery) and mix and match seasonal textures for each class. Also, the docs of most of my files list more sources for source data and software.Cheers, Holger
June 18, 200520 yr Thanks Holger. I have your earlier scenery enhancements for BC, hadn't realised that the UT version had been released. There are a series of 1:25000 maps of the Australian alps with aerial photos of the same area on the back, I plan to use these to help determine correct landclass. I did something similar for the local area around where I live near the town of Merimbula (YMER) on the far south coast of NSW.Best wishesBruceb Bruce Bartlett Frodo: "I wish none of this had happened." Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."
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