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What do Mac users miss out on with XP... ?

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I migrated to XPX as I have a Mac (also a homebuilt PC). A Mac is obviously less customizable for hardware and drivers. I wonder what XPX addons are not compatible with the Mac, or what advanteges the Mac may have?

 

Thanks, Bruce.

ASEL, Instrument.

KBJC, Colorado.

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Actually, very little. Virtually all payware aircraft will run on OSX and Windows, most on Linux too. The only things I can think of at the moment are Multi Crew Experience and some of the payware flight planners but I tend to use Simbrief.com anyway.

There is an issue with Nvidia cards that means X-Plane tends to run faster on the Windows side of a Bootcamp partition, the opposite seems true with AMD cards.

Advantages, the gorgeous Magic Mouse is a great way to spin around the cockpit and zoom in, not having to have a virus checker draining valuable resources and the reduced risk of BSODs

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Are Macs locked in to the hardware, or can you swap out stuff like ram and graphics cards?

Just curious as I'm not familiar with them.

The older Mac Pros are the most customisable Macs. You can swap out CPUs, GPUs, Ram etc, they have 4 PCIe bays for adding other stuff plus 4 cableless hardrive bays. Most other Macs allow for upgrading Ram but not much else. It is possible to upgrade GPUs in iMacs I believe but its not a DIY job.

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Thanks - I'm not likely to bite the bullet as they're hideously expensive and from what I've just read on the Apple Store, my 15-month old PC could easily kick the &@($* of the best equipped iMac.

Ok, I run a PC and a several Macs. Guess which ones I use to work on? Incidentally, when it comes to sell your PC let me know how much it has depreciated. Renewing my Macs probably doesn't cost much more than buying an equivalent PC because of the resell value. 

 

Sorry I really thought from your question that you were genuinely interested but alas it seems you just want to start a Mac PC flame war. Now , I shall let you get back to your kickass PC. Assuming of course it has neither crashed into a blue screen or caught a virus, in the time it took me to reply. 

 

Have a nice day

Jason E Row

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Ok, I run a PC and a several Macs. Guess which ones I use to work on? Incidentally, when it comes to sell your PC let me know how much it has depreciated. Renewing my Macs probably doesn't cost much more than buying an equivalent PC because of the resell value. 

 

Sorry I really thought from your question that you were genuinely interested but alas it seems you just want to start a Mac PC flame war. Now , I shall let you get back to your kickass PC. Assuming of course it has neither crashed into a blue screen or caught a virus, in the time it took me to reply. 

 

Have a nice day

 

Wow, touchy - easy tiger!  :wink:

There was no flame war intended. I've always been curious because those who use Macs seem to love them. I admit I was quite taken aback at the bang for buck ratio though. However I agree, maybe there's a resell value that I hadn't considered, but I tend to pass my old PCs on to family or friends rather than sell off.

Fair enough, as you probably know we Mac users often come in for a lot of stick from elements of the PC community. All I can say is that I have used Macs for over 10 years, there reliability is superb but by far their biggest asset is OSX. Yes they are expensive, yes if you compare component for component, you will get PC for much less but there is a special something that Apple does that makes the combination of hardware and software so appealing, its an old cliche but the saying "once you have had Mac, you never go back" is by and large true

Jason E Row

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For me, it's mainly the dev tools and G2XPL for creating photoscenery which I can't get to work, even under Wine (Which runs Windows apps). However, everything else works and most will nearly always support both Windows and Mac. Linux is generally behind though


 

 


There is an issue with Nvidia cards that means X-Plane tends to run faster on the Windows side of a Bootcamp partition, the opposite seems true with AMD cards.

 

Actually, I've found the opposite. I think it's the driver support, as generally the bootcamp drivers are very out of date.

Once I switch completely to X-Plane I will definitely think about it. It is a big investment!

 

I'm an IT guy by trade so unlearning all the Windows stuff in my head will be a challenge lol. Last time I laid hands on a mac was about 1997.

For me, it's mainly the dev tools and G2XPL for creating photoscenery which I can't get to work, even under Wine (Which runs Windows apps). However, everything else works and most will nearly always support both Windows and Mac. Linux is generally behind though

 

 

 

Actually, I've found the opposite. I think it's the driver support, as generally the bootcamp drivers are very out of date.

I don't use the Bootcamp drivers anymore, I just install the latest Nvidia ones direct from their site. Seem to work fine.

Jason E Row

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I use both, mainly Macs in the lab and PC's by choice at home.  I build my own computers at home and have had no problems with either Macs (boxed) or PC's (built) over the past 20-some years other than hard drive failures on both.  I use a custom gaming mouse and keyboard on my simming computer.  My home preference is for PCs because I can hand-pick my components and keep them updated, mainly video cards, and do it far more cheaply than buying new Apples or Apple components.  Rumors of CTD's and virus checker drains are mainly from Mac-only fans or from computer buyers who don't know how to use them. Any virus-checker can be disabled during simming, and I've never had a CTD during any simming session with X-Plane (can't say that about FSX, however, but neither can anyone else).  No flames here, just correcting some mis-information and bias.  :mellow:

i7-4790K o/c @ 4.8 GHz, Corsair H-110 liquid cooler, 32 GB Corsair Vengeance RAM, MSI Maximus VII Hero mobo

Samsung Pro 512 GB SSD

Corsair GFX Hydro GTX-1080 8 GB, (2) 4TB hybrid HDs

Win 10 (1607), X-Plane 10.51r2 and X-Plane 11.01b1

Once I switch completely to X-Plane I will definitely think about it. It is a big investment!

 

I'm an IT guy by trade so unlearning all the Windows stuff in my head will be a challenge lol. Last time I laid hands on a mac was about 1997.

Im also an IT guy buy trade. worked on windows machines all my life till about last year. I have bought a macbook pro 13 inch and it is probably one of the best laptops i have ever held in my hands. 

 

I really like the mac os although it is a lot different. I like the fact that every tuesday i don't have to worry about a patch. i also like the fact that i can restart my laptop back to the desktop in less than 30 seconds even tho i have so much stuff saved in it.

 

Macs are more expensive than windows machines but i think if u are going to buy a laptop a mac is the best investment u can make. 

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Thanks everyone, sorry if I started a PC/Mac war :)

 

Up until last Christmas I was a happy PC user (homebuilt, i7 quad water cooled, GTX780/ 6GB GPU, 1080p monitor), and used P3D as my primary sim with XPX secondarily.

 

My "better half" bought me a new iMac Retina for Christmas (ultra res in a sim would lool great, right?). She doesn't know the differences betweeb PC and Mac.. so I installed XPX onto the iMac and love it. The iMac comes with all the bells and whisles- 16GB of RAM, i7 quad, althogh the GPU has only 4GB and has the "M" suffix...

 

I'm running XPX at desktop res of 2560 X 1440. I've tried the PC with XPX as well, but the 1080p seems so "low res" now. I know I could buy a new monitor and the GTX780 would drive it no worries. I've also tried the iMac with XPX running at 1080p- the PC is performing better from an fps perspective at the same res, but I've really come to like the iMac and OSX/Yosemite. I've got several iPads and everything interfaces so seamlessly.

 

But I got to wondering what add-ons are PC only. Maybe some are Mac only too! I see that an option to run RC4 with 10.25 might be soon possible, but I wonder if parts of that setup might be PC only.... if I can use a network interface to XPX then I can use the PC for that I guess.

 

Like someome said above- I am fully booted in 10 seconds, no A/V to worry about... but I sometimes wish I could do hardware upgrades myself, which is impossible with this machine.

 

Thanks, Bruce.

ASEL, Instrument.

KBJC, Colorado.

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