Why GTA V is so much more than a game about crime!

[psolk]

I hate tomato. So will avoid at all cost eating it.

I hate violence and women being brutalised and degraded. So I avoid 'entertainment' that promotes it.

 

 

Where in that statement is untruth?

 

Sorry. It's fact. If you enjoy it, you'll watch it. That's your choice.

And I hate murder but I watched Friday the 13th and Halloween growing up.... Does that mean I like murder now?   Your FACT is ridiculous Jon, you are making wild wild accusations without any justification or basis for statement behind them other than YOUR opinion.    You could not be more closed minded to any discussion other than your own opinion which as you say is fact so I am done.  

 

Enjoy your night and thanks for ruining a good thread.  Trust me, if the MODS thought it was inappropriate they would have closed it, YOU thought it was inappropriate and MADE IT inappropriate.  

[avgaskoolaid]

Nope. And never said that so stop putting words in my mouth.

 

If you LOVE golf, you'll watch it.

If you HATE violence, you won't watch it.

 

 

Not opinion, fact.

Nope. And never said that so stop putting words in my mouth.

 

If you LOVE golf, you'll watch it.

If you HATE violence, you won't watch it.

 

 

Not opinion, fact.

EVERYONE WHO HAS EVER WATCHED A MOVIE OR READ A BOOK WHERE SOMEONE GOT KILLED OR HURT LOVES MURDER AND VIOLENCE.

 

THIS IS A FACT IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT TOO BAD. 

 

It doesn't matter if you didn't explicitly say it. The above is the direct conclusion that someone would draw following your line of reasoning. 

[psolk]

Right, so your argument is if you like something you watch it conversely, if you watch something you like it and if you don't like it you don't watch it.  So if I watch a movie with kidnapping or murder I like murder or kidnapping by your logic or lack thereof.  All of that Harlan Coben, Stephen King, Daniel Silva, James Patterson and Edgar Allen Poe I read must make me a total psychopath.

 

Please tell me how I am wrong.

I know it's fact. Thanks for agreeing with me.

Pathetic

[psolk]

I don't watch movies that contain violence or degrading entertainment. Becasue I hate it,

My wife hates cricket, so doesn't watch it.

I love cricket, so watch it.

If you live violence and degrading entertainment, you watch it.

 

Pretty simple.

Perhaps less gaming and more studying in school?

Really Jon?  You want to get personal?  Try not being so closed minded.  

Your attitude reminds me of a famous quote (but what do I know I need more studying in school right...)  

“The refusal to take the time to understand things in any number of dimensions greater than one is the chief source of the national stupidity.” — Menand, Louis.

 

BTW, I am WELL out of school, 41 years old and probably more "educated" than you want to push into a battle of intellect Jon.  You don't get to the levels I have achieved in my professional life without being willing to have open dialog and look at things from more than YOUR OWN perspective or opinion which is clearly not an attribute you posses in this discussion.  But again, you made an assumption about who you were speaking to...

[fghdgdfdfgfgf]

I'm reminded of the movie Clockwork Orange......

[psolk]

Yes, those 3 days with GTA V have completely had an effect on me as a person Jon, you are right.  Trust me, I usually get agitated when trying to have an intellectual conversation with closed minded individuals who declare their opinion as fact, insult me, insinuate I need more studying in school and whose responses read like na na na na na I'm rubber your glue or in other words as though they were articulated by an 8 year old and can not even recognize when they ARE getting personal.

 

It is a shame you could not keep your judgmental opinions to yourself and allow others to continue their discussion without wild and offensive accusations around rape and violence as well as degrading and beating women.    

[psolk]

Wow, mature reponce.

 

 

My wife hates cricket, so won't watch it. Why? Becasue she hates it.

I love cricket, so I watch it. Why? Because I love it.

If you hate rape, violence, etc, you won't watch it. Why? Because you hate it.

If you like rape, violence wtc, you'll watch it. Why? Because you love it.

 

 

^ where is that an opinion?

 

 

That's life.

 

“The refusal to take the time to understand things in any number of dimensions greater than one is the chief source of the national stupidity.” — Menand, Louis.

 

But you keep pressing forward with your simplistic one dimensional argument and calling it a fact because you believe it.  I am not going to remain in a circular discussion with someone who is not willing to expand their opinions or perceptions to entertain an educated conversation.    

 

No offence Jon, there is very little in life that is as black and white as you are making it without the option of gray area discussion.  

[psolk]

So if my wife hates cricket, and won't watch it, because she hates it, that's an opinion that's wrong rather then being....um....life?

That does not make THAT particular example an analogy for "life" Jon!!!   

 

I hate broccoli but I will watch it cook...  I hate seafood but will watch others eat it...  My sister hates meat but watches me eat steak.  I hate fire and burns but when the house across the street was on fire I watched it burn.  I hate Nico Rosberg but I will watch him race Lewis Hamilton.   I hate commuting but I do it everyday!!!  I hate blood but have to watch the nurse when she draws it from my arm, does that mean I really LIKE needles and blood???  

 

See how easy it is to make your analogy absurd....   Life is NOT that simple or black and white Jon.    Quite frankly, I hate Cricket too but when I am in the UK I will watch it if it is the only sporting event on, I don't blame your wife, that is not life that is good taste...

[psolk]

I hate rape and violence so won't watch it or be entertainment by it.

If I loved rape and violence, I'd love being entertained by it.

 

That's fact. Not opinion.

and 2+2 =4 is a fact but you know what, so is 3+1=4, so is 4+0=4, so is 5-1=4, so is 10-6=4  and as I have repeatedly pointed out yet you can not seem to comprehend, there is more than one way to approach a problem/discussion/resolution but all you can say is 2+2=4 is a fact so THAT is the only conclusion (because you came to it) when in reality there are a lot more possibilities options and conclusions you can not seem to open your mind to.  Now THAT is a fact...

 

You are trying to take the most basic analogy possible and make it your all encompassing argument as to how life works.  Sorry, it is not a compelling argument at all.  It could not be less compelling.   I do not like plane crashes but I have watched numerous videos of them.  I did not like MH370 disappearing but I watched ALL the coverage of the search and analysis.    

 

Try not being so black and white and judgmental Jon.  

[psolk]

You keep going through life thinking it is that simple and black and white and judging others from your high horse along the way Jon.  I am done with this conversation, it is cyclical and you can not offer up anything other than the most basic argument that you then apply in the broadest and most general terms to "life."  

[laserit]

So Jon

 

How do you explain all those Catholic priests who've raped and sodomized little boys and a Vatican that swept it all under the rug for generation after generation. Must have been all the video games they played and what they watched on TV eh?

 

There have always been messed up sadistic people all through out history... before movies and games or even books. The world is no more violent and screwed up than it ever has been.

 

That's fact. Not an opinion. 

[psolk]

So Jon

 

How do you explain all those Catholic priests who've raped and sodomized little boys and a Vatican that swept it all under the rug for generation after generation. Must have been all the video games they played and what they watched on TV eh?

 

There have always been messed up sadistic people all through out history... before movies and games or even books. The world is no more violent and screwed up than it ever has been.

 

That's fact. Not an opinion. 

 

Well it's obvious, by Jon's argument they would all LOVE GTA V automatically, it is a fact.  In fact every rapist and violent individual in the world must love this game and if you do like this game you must love rape and violence.  What a load of total garbage!!!

[Captain Kevin]

Unreal. An ADMINISTRATOR asks for:

As a player of the GTA series, I regret to say this topic was ok until talking about porn, strippers, and the like.  While this is ok among adults.. please keep in mind we do have many kids on here as well, and I don't want this to be a reason why mom and dad don't want them learning more about flight sim @ AVSIM.

 

With that being said, can we realign the discussion to focus more on the Simulation qualities of the game?  I can say that the parts I enjoyed the most were the flying parts and putzing around in the heli's since I absolutely suck at controlling them on landing in FSX.

 

And you can't even respect that? And you want to continue this?

[Kuragiman]

Oh hey, look!   Nvidia didn't break the runway lights for GTA V... how thoughtful of them.  *glares at Nvidia*