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Why GTA V is so much more than a game about crime!

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You don't have to be violent in GTA!

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I'd believe you more if you stopped at a red light once in a while LOL...

 

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I enjoy the GTA series, but it is a game about crime. The eye candy just makes it a pretty looking game about crime.

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I'd believe you more if you stopped at a red light once in a while LOL...

 

Donald

My Internet is pretty slow so I was trying to save on upload time.

I made a video today showing the underwater part of the world and it's jaw droppingly beautiful 

Don't forget rape...

 

 

Interesting talking to someone that works for government dealing with people who commit some pretty serious disturbing crimes. sexual etc. All have common theme and is noted. They watch and play violent movies, video games and pornography.

Hmm. I've played these games all my life and haven't commited any crimes beyond speeding. It has to do with the person and who they are not the games they play. Chances are these same folks would have committed these crimes even if they had never played a video game or watched a violent movie

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Don't forget rape...

 

 

Interesting talking to someone that works for government dealing with people who commit some pretty serious disturbing crimes. sexual etc. All have common theme and is noted. They watch and play violent movies, video games and pornography.

 

Confusing association with causation.

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Don't forget rape...

 

 

Interesting talking to someone that works for government dealing with people who commit some pretty serious disturbing crimes. sexual etc. All have common theme and is noted. They watch and play violent movies, video games and pornography.

 

Nonsense.

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Don't forget rape...

 

 

Interesting talking to someone that works for government dealing with people who commit some pretty serious disturbing crimes. sexual etc. All have common theme and is noted. They watch and play violent movies, video games and pornography.

 

Bollocks! What a ridiculous statement!

 

I've played GTA, COD, Battlefield etc, and I watch porn. I haven't committed any such crimes, nor has it ever crossed my mind.

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What'd we do before TV and video games? Oh, right.

 

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Not my opinion but facts of those that study such individuals. Not the only ones who have reached this conclusion.

 

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If you enioy singing, you sing.

If you enjoy car racing, you watch it.

If you enjoy opera, you watch it.

 

If you hate opera, you won't watch it.

If you hate golf, you won't watch it.

It you hate violence, you won't watch it or play violent video games.

If you hate the thought of a woman getting raped, you won't play video games or watch footage of this nature.

If you hate the sexualisation of women, you won't watch degrading pornography.

 

 

 

Interesting what happens when swap the wont with a want and the hate with love.

 

 

Don't believe everything you read. Academic papers and studies are setup to get results on hypotheses. You can prove anything if you have the right set of circumstances.  Look deeper into those papers and specifically those who were studied and you will find deeper underlying issues completely not associated with the forms of entertainment they chose.

 

And in terms of OP - GTA is amazing. The world they have built I could spend hours and hours in...

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Not my opinion but facts of those that study such individuals. Not the only ones who have reached this conclusion.

 

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If you enioy singing, you sing.

If you enjoy car racing, you watch it.

If you enjoy opera, you watch it.

 

If you hate opera, you won't watch it.

If you hate golf, you won't watch it.

It you hate violence, you won't watch it or play violent video games.

If you hate the thought of a woman getting raped, you won't play video games or watch footage of this nature.

If you hate the sexualisation of women, you won't watch degrading pornography.

 

 

 

Interesting what happens when swap the wont with a want and the hate with love.

 

Argument from authority. IE the person making the argument has X amount of experience, degrees etc, and hence must be right. Of course, in such cases, the person citing said conclusions can choose very carefully which "authorities" to reference.

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Confusing association with causation.

 

 

This.

 

While certain criminals may watch certain movies, for example, not everyone watching those movies is bound to be a criminal. Neither does that correlation prove (already/on its own) that certain movies trigger a particular criminal behaviour.

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Only those who enjoy seeing a woman bashed and raped as 'entertainment', make such arguments.

 

I have respect for women and hate violence so avoid that kind of 'entertainment'. But if you enjoy 'entertainment' that bashes and rapes women, as you must of course, keep playing. I won't stop you.

You do what you enjoy doing. :)

 

Ad Hominem attack. You really are proceeding by the numbers, aren't you?  :blink:

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Jon, in all seriousness:

 

I have a military airplane in my FSX hangar; does that make me a militarist, a warmonger, trigger-happy, or all of the above?!?

 

I fly that plane for its unusual flight model and its ease of system handling.

 

I would kindly ask you, Jon, to read the topic title again (accentuation is mine):

 

"Why GTA V is so much more than a game about crime!"

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Only those who enjoy seeing a woman bashed and raped as 'entertainment', make such arguments.

 

I don't "enjoy" seeing a woman "bashed and raped", and I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of the AVSIM membership think likewise. However, if we did see something like that, it isn't going to suddenly turn us into murdering rapists.

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Jon, unfortunately you are talking nonsense and citing outdated information

 

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The entire line of GTA has sold more than 125 million copies. I don't think there's anything that links those sales numbers with a rise in violent crime... especially since in many areas violent crime is going down, not up (US is a great example of that with violent crime rates dropping to 1970's era rates). In short... the claims that creates violent individuals don't match reality.

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If you enioy singing, you sing.

If you enjoy car racing, you watch it.

If you enjoy opera, you watch it.

 

If you hate opera, you won't watch it.

If you hate golf, you won't watch it.

It you hate violence, you won't commit violence

If you hate the thought of a woman getting raped, you won't commit a rape

If you hate the sexualisation of women, you won't watch degrading pornography.

 

 

Fixed that for ya.

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Only those who enjoy seeing a woman bashed and raped as 'entertainment', make such arguments.

 

I have respect for women and hate violence so avoid that kind of 'entertainment'. But if you enjoy 'entertainment' that bashes and rapes women, as you must of course, keep playing. I won't stop you.

You do what you enjoy doing. :)

As for GTA I made the video to show that you can focus on other things in the game. Yesterday I took a submarine and explores the breathtaking underwater landscape and marine life then I hoped in my boat and went for a moon light cruise around the island. Then I hopped in my helicopter and flew to the summit of the tallest mountian and took in the view of the moon light on the country side and the lights of the city in the distance.... Sound like a really violent day Huh.

As for your other argument

I respect women too and don't watch porn but because I have no interest in it as I have a girlfriend.

But no one forces the girls to do porn or strip they choose to do that, maybe out of desperation but it's a choice they make. Most strippers I know do it because it pays a lot and it's easy work. As I guy I can honestly say I'd be a male stripper if I needed the money. If somone wants to pay me good money to show off what I see in the shower fine....easy money and more addons hahaha. Id also do porn I mean come on getting paid to do that.... "Every man's dream job"

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As a player of the GTA series, I regret to say this topic was ok until talking about porn, strippers, and the like.  While this is ok among adults.. please keep in mind we do have many kids on here as well, and I don't want this to be a reason why mom and dad don't want them learning more about flight sim @ AVSIM.

 

With that being said, can we realign the discussion to focus more on the Simulation qualities of the game?  I can say that the parts I enjoyed the most were the flying parts and putzing around in the heli's since I absolutely suck at controlling them on landing in FSX.

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I'm thinking about buying this game. But, I have learned that I only play those games to

the end or find replayability in them that have a story line in single player.

Does GTA V have a story line? Like eg Maffia II or Alien Isolation (loved those titles).

 

Thanks,

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As a player of the GTA series, I regret to say this topic was ok until talking about porn, strippers, and the like.  While this is ok among adults.. please keep in mind we do have many kids on here as well, and I don't want this to be a reason why mom and dad don't want them learning more about flight sim @ AVSIM.

 

With that being said, can we realign the discussion to focus more on the Simulation qualities of the game?  I can say that the parts I enjoyed the most were the flying parts and putzing around in the heli's since I absolutely suck at controlling them on landing in FSX.

 

Here here.   Excellently said, Chase.

 

This thread so far, leaves a bad taste in my mouth.  Not because it's about GTA (which I personally don't like due to the themes which it does present and portray), but because of some of the subject matter being dragged up.    Whether violence in TV & Video game culture can cause some individuals to act out horrific crimes is a hotly disputed area.   In general I say no, but on a more holistic, societal scale, the fact that we 'tolerate' and accept increasingly violent and depraved content on TV and in games, could, subtly and slowly, lead us to a more violent society.    My mind's not made up on this ; on some subjects it's best to keep an open mind and accept that there might not yet be evidence either way, to justify a 'black or white' opinion.

 

The flight sequences certainly look impressive.

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What'd we do before TV and video games? Oh, right.

 

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You gave me a good laugh on that! Sooo right.

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I'm thinking about buying this game. But, I have learned that I only play those games to

the end or find replayability in them that have a story line in single player.

Does GTA V have a story line? Like eg Maffia II or Alien Isolation (loved those titles).

 

Thanks,

It has a single player storyline and it has the online portion in which you create a character and play as that person throughout the online world your online character is saved every time you exit so you progress across time

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You do what you enjoy doing. :)

 

Dear Jon, 

 

If this topic is not for you then kindly step out of the thread and leave it for others, I agree GTA may not be for everyone but no need in throwing a spanner in the works just because it is not a game for you. This is a popular game so I would say the needs of the majority out way the needs of the few, or in this case the one (being you). Hope you find something fun to do with your day instead of this.

 

Cheers Mate

 

 

 

With that being said, can we realign the discussion to focus more on the Simulation qualities of the game?  I can say that the parts I enjoyed the most were the flying parts and putzing around in the heli's since I absolutely suck at controlling them on landing in FSX.

 

I agree, GTA4 has been a fun distraction from FSX and I look forward to GTA5, just out of the budget at the moment, but I will follow how others are finding it online for the mean time.

 

Also it is technology like GTA5 that moves gaming and simulation forward as it seems to be the first title to take 64-bit gaming to a new level as well. Hopefully Flight Sim can catch up someday

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Just a lil FYI to add to actual fun talk part of this thread....

 

GTA5 is the most expensive game ever produced - $265 million - that's wild!

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