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Just installed Opus - have ASN and EZCA - opinions needed

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First off, I just upgraded to P3D v2.5 after a many months break, and so far results have been nothing short of outstanding.

 

I was compelled to install the Opus FSI mainly to interface with my buttkicker. I have had EZCA for years and it seems to work pretty well in P3D. I use TrackIR on a triple monitor setup, and only fly in VC mode. Rarely do I use external cameras.

 

I also use ASN for weather, and am fairly happy with it. It does seem to drag the system down, which they will hopefully work out with subsequent updates.

 

I want comparison opinions on both of these issues. Which is better for VC camera positioning and effects, and which would you prefer for whether injection.

 

Thanks for any feedback.

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For many reasons, ASN for weather, hands down UNLESS you don't really care about the weather and just want pretty cloud cover and some wind.

 

Never tried the Opus head movement but I did try the EZCA - I prefer just using TrackIR. *I* found the EZCA too cumbersome using it WITH TIR - I did NOT like it using it INSTEAD of TIR.

 

There are a lot of very satisfied EZCA users around here - perhaps some will chime in for you.

 

But for accurate winds and weather - nothing comes close to ASN.

 

Vic

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Honestly, I wish Opus would split their product into weather/viewer products. If they had OpusView (or whatever!) then it could be a serious contender to EZDOK.

I'm an EZDOK user but there's a couple of issues with it that wind me up at times and the developer seems to come and go as he pleases.

 

I'd much prefer a camera addon from Opus, I appreciate their involvment in these forums and they seem like a decent bunch. But, I'll stick with ASN for weather (after all, ASN/PMDG)

The OpusFSI trial was a little underwhelming. Weather only updates while on the ground? I would have much prefered the 7 days trial like ASN which eventually led me to buy it as SOON as those 7 days were over.

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For many reasons, ASN for weather, hands down UNLESS you don't really care about the weather and just want pretty cloud cover and some wind.

 

Never tried the Opus head movement but I did try the EZCA - I prefer just using TrackIR. *I* found the EZCA too cumbersome using it WITH TIR - I did NOT like it using it INSTEAD of TIR.

 

 

 

There are a lot of very satisfied EZCA users around here - perhaps some will chime in for you.

 

But for accurate winds and weather - nothing comes close to ASN.

 

Vic

So you never used the Opusfsx/FSD cameras;I presume you have used Opusfsi/fsx for weather, yes?

 

Chas

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The OpusFSI trial was a little underwhelming. Weather only updates while on the ground? I would have much prefered the 7 days trial like ASN which eventually led me to buy it as SOON as those 7 days were over.

Opusfsx/fsx updates dynamically, with presets, and NOW...You didn't RTFM.

 

Chas

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So you never used the Opusfsx/FSD cameras;I presume you have used Opusfsi/fsx for weather, yes?

When I already have the best available, I see no need to trade down.

 

 

Vic

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Opusfsx/fsx updates dynamically, with presets, and NOW...You didn't RTFM.

Chas

 

Thanks for that 'friendly' reply Chas.

This is from http://www.opussoftware.co.uk/opusfsi/opusfsi_getting_started.htm

 

 

Note that in Demo mode the Live Weather Engine is restricted to 160km (100 miles) in all directions and weather updating only whilst your aircraft is on the ground. Also World Weather Themes are not accessible in demo mode. Demonstration mode will run for 15 minutes with a minimum 2 minute interval required between runs. 

 

 

 

You might want to "RTF"Website before commenting.  :rolleyes: 

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Thanks for that 'friendly' reply Chas.

This is from http://www.opussoftware.co.uk/opusfsi/opusfsi_getting_started.htm

 

You might want to "RTF"Website before commenting. :rolleyes:

 

 

My, mistake re the demo...it was meant as an FYI re the capabilities of OpusFsx....and my use of RTFM while, insultingly received, was only intended as a generic term.

 

So, forgive me if I Mis-stepped in my goal of imparting salient info to you.

 

Chas

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forgive me if I Mis-stepped in my goal of imparting salient info to you.

 

You are forgiven.

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When I already have the best available, I see no need to trade down.Vic

So if you have not compared, how can your statement "But for accurate winds and weather - nothing comes close to ASN.", be treated as anything more than hear-say and speculation?

 

Regards,

 

Chas

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So if you have not compared, how can your statement "But for accurate winds and weather - nothing comes close to ASN.", be treated as anything more than hear-say and speculation?

 

Regards,

 

Chas

Not getting into a xxxxing contest. You pays yer money, you takes your choice. I stand by my statement - for accurate winds and weather - you can NOT beat ASN. As a long time beta tester for ASN I can not elaborate HOW I know this - but each has a trial period, one should make up their own mind.

 

Vic

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Not getting into a xxxxing contest. You pays yer money, you takes your choice. I stand by my statement - for accurate winds and weather - you can NOT beat ASN. As a long time beta tester for ASN I can not elaborate HOW I know this - but each has a trial period, one should make up their own mind.Vic

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...done here...onward

 

Regards to all

 

chas

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OP here. FWIW I gave Opus a good run this weekend and wish I had relized there was a demo version. What I have found, is that it quite simply does not play nice with other add-ons and .dll's.

 

My idea was that I was going to run the software for just the tactile buttkicker feedback, and use ASN and EZDOK for weather and cameras. The way the tactile feedback works is that it uses the same data as the dynamic head movement, so the DHM must be enabled within Opus in order to get the buttkicker to work. This is a problem because I can't have EZDOK and Opus' DHM running at the same time. As a long time EZDOK user, I can easily change my viewpoint, edit dhm's and the rest very easily. Not the case with Opus.

 

Regarding the tactile feedback itself, it has a long way to go for it to be convincing. I use tactile feedback in racing simulators, and the feeling you get in the seat is much more customizable and dynamic. The feedback in P3D using opus is very simple, and in many ways runs counter to what you would actually feel in the seat. For instance, when you are sitting in a recip prop under low RPM, that is where you will feel the most vibration, and as the RPM increases, the engine vibrations smooth out. The way Opus represents it is a completely linear, low RPM=low vibration, and vibrations increase as RPM increases. It is very weird and doesn't feel right.

 

I think if I didn't already have ASN and EZCA, Opus would be a worthwhile purchase. We'll see if Flight1 is easy on me when it comes to getting my $50 back.

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For many reasons, ASN for weather, hands down UNLESS you don't really care about the weather and just want pretty cloud cover and some wind.

 

What a useless degrading comment Vic  :rolleyes: Both ASN and OPUS do an excellent job generating the weather and OPUS is much more than you suggest...

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Does opus support historical weather like ASN? that and PMDG integration are the main sticking points for me. The Opus camera system has me interested though.

 

Like I said, if they offered a separate camera addon to compete with Ezdok, I'd be all over it like bugs on a Carenado plane!

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You can disable the weather in Opus, and the dynamic cams etc work fine with ASN. The weather mode in Opus is handy to have as stand by  if ASN is offline for any reason, like a P3D update.

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What a useless degrading comment Vic  :rolleyes: Both ASN and OPUS do an excellent job generating the weather and OPUS is much more than you suggest...

No more useless and degrading than yours Bert. We each have our opinions. I stand by my comment. Opus is a fine product, FSGRW is a fine product and REX is a fine product but for accurate weather, winds and temps - ASN is superior for many reasons.

 

But it still remains an individual choice.

 

 

Vic

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Look on YouTube for side by side weather generation shootout of both...

 

...one thing I can think of that OPUSFSI doesn't have, is historical weather..

 

From the OPUSFSI weather manual

Live Weather Features

 

 Live Weather constructs Dynamic Live Weather from current live (or historic) METAR data.

 

 Accurate detailed weather as far as the eye can see throughout your flight. No more unrealistic globalized weather from horizon to horizon, with OpusFSI you can see distant weather patterns all around you. See the changing weather patterns en route as you fly.

 

 Live Weather provides instant weather updates. No more unrealistic clearing of the weather prior to updating. No more annoying screen flicker as METARs are slowly loaded into the sim.

 

 No more METAR voids or unrealistic METAR data morphing.

 

 No more inconsistencies with distant ATC and ATIS reports. Accurate Destination Weather when over 200km away, with perfect weather reports at any distance to any point en-route.

 

 OpusFSI weather reports can be used instead of ATIS, and at non-ATIS airstrips.

 

 Live Weather allows you to see low lying mist and fog patches.

 

 Live Weather creates very realistic cloud, visibility layering and an overcast effect.

 

 Live Weather lets you turn on, off, or automatically generate the cirrus cloud effect.

 

 The Live Weather Engine supervises both the turbulence and ultra-realistic Dynamic Head Movement utilising actual real-life captured 3D accelerometer data.

 Create your own named weather themes from the current weather.

 

 Load your own custom weather using a simple METAR import file.

 

 Load historic weather from within the last 24 hours.

 

 Dynamic Weather reports displayed during flight for your local area, destination, alternates, en route, lower and upper atmosphere weather.

 

 Flight Plan Assistant imports activated flight plans and provides dynamic flight plan weather reports together with detailed reports on METARs, GRIB lower and upper atmosphere weather, flight plan waypoint weather and SIDs/STARs ordered according to direction and distance.

 

 Live Weather Assistant provides maps of Surface QNH, Surface Winds, Surface Visibility, Surface Temperature, Precipitation Levels, Low Cloud Cover and Met Station Cover for the current 800 x 800 mile weather map.

 

 Client Side Weather Control enables you to edit flight parameters and display weather data on a networked client PC.

 

 Live Weather allows perfect synchronisation of dynamic weather and cloud formations on networked systems.

 

Sky and Cloud Textures

 

The Live Weather Engine does not include any sky and cloud textures. For optimum effect we strongly recommend you install sky and cloud textures from packages such as Flight Environment X (payware) or HDEv2 (freeware) for clouds with the sky upgraded by Danny Glover, and use the OpusFSI Live Weather Engine for the actual weather updates.

 

We would strongly recommend using lower resolution 1024 cloud textures and also not using HD cloud textures, this will be beneficial in terms of frame rates as well as looking more realistic and less harsh.

 

And from experience... Absolute minimal frame rate hit ....so, you get DHM, CAMERAS, AND weather...in one package....oh...and look at their site and look up a number of revisions that Stephen has made to his product since it was introduced.

 

That's my take...and I have both....but I need to play with ASN more for a truly fair comparison

 

Chas

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Look on YouTube for side by side weather generation shootout of both...

 

That's one problem OPUS isn't well represented on youtube, and so far can't find any comparison videos, especially for OPUS FSI

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The only real way is to try the demo's and compare it to YOUR way of flying. Looking at someone else's youtube doesn't really tell much - on YOUR system it could be a stuttering mess.

 

Some simmers plan flights correctly, calculating fuel burn, weights, time to climb etc - for these people -accurate weather depiction is a must - winds, temps etc are critical. For others, just flying through the clouds, low and slow and having a beautiful visual experience is what they like.

 

Each weather program does the latter well - it's up to you to determine which does the former more accurately.

 

Vic

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No more useless and degrading than yours Bert. We each have our opinions. I stand by my comment. Opus is a fine product, FSGRW is a fine product and REX is a fine product but for accurate weather, winds and temps - ASN is superior for many reasons.

 

But it still remains an individual choice.

 

 

Vic

 

Fair enough Vic. It is indeed an individual choice. But your words suggest Opus weather is far from accurate and you can only use it for and I quote "pretty cloud cover and some wind". That is utter nonsense. I have never understood the superiority ASN has according to its users. I have used ASN as well as OPUS and I fail to see why ASN would be so much better...

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I have never understood the superiority ASN has according to its users. I have used ASN as well as OPUS and I fail to see why ASN would be so much better...

 

Well this is what did it for me!! Can OPUSFSI do this? (This is FSX BTW)

 

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I have seen you guys say no historic weather in Opus. Maybe I have misinterpreted what you mean but it does do historical weather:

 

http://www.simforums.com/forums/saving-dynamic-weather-historic-weather-themes_topic42840.html

Not exactly the same thing! All that describes, is saving your weather and loading it another day. ASN can do that too. What is missing in OPUS is a database of past weather for the whole world for any time. In ASN I just set historical weather, then select a time and date (Could be 6 months back or further) and it will load the weather for that date from anywhere in the world. So for example if you want to fly through one of hurricanes from last year you can.

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Not exactly the same thing! All that describes, is saving your weather and loading it another day. ASN can do that too. What is missing in OPUS is a database of past weather for the whole world for any time. In ASN I just set historical weather, then select a time and date (Could be 6 months back or further) and it will load the weather for that date from anywhere in the world. So for example if you want to fly through one of hurricanes from last year you can.

 

Ahhh roger that, I had not ever thought of that. Not really a feature I would use but understand why people would.

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Fair enough Vic. It is indeed an individual choice. But your words suggest Opus weather is far from accurate and you can only use it for and I quote "pretty cloud cover and some wind". That is utter nonsense. I have never understood the superiority ASN has according to its users. I have used ASN as well as OPUS and I fail to see why ASN would be so much better...

As a long time ASN beta tester Bert, we really try to avoid knocking another product. There is enough room in the market and each product will prompt the other to do better. MOST users rate a weather program visually - if the clouds are pretty and if the METAR says there should be clouds, then it's good.

 

Bottom line - if you can't see the ASN advantage - stay with OPUS. A car is just a car but the difference is what lies under the hood, but if you only test at 60MPH - they all look the same. IMHO, what is under the hood of ASN is significantly superior to any other weather engine when it counts.

 

But it still comes down to the same as any other purchase, if you don't need or use the features, why buy them?

 

Vic

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