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Hi guys just installed my new 28 inches samsung 4k resolution 3840x2160.....my video card is GTX 780 ...frames went down from 33 stable to 16.....any ideas ?????

connection is HDMI to monitor DVI from PC

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Peter

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Titan X is needed I guess - you have now asked your current video card to do to much - downfall of such a high res monitor - but beyond that you should be able to turn down your graphic settings but still maintaining a pretty decent picture at least that would be the theory 

 

As for your connection of cables Rob could answer that one

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Titan X is needed I guess - you have now asked your current video card to do to much - downfall of such a high res monitor - but beyond that you should be able to turn down your graphic settings but still maintaining a pretty decent picture at least that would be the theory 

 

As for your connection of cables Rob could answer that one

hummmm I wish some one with the same 780 and 4k could tell me what resolution  are they using to increase FPS....I think I make a 499 $ mistake here....

hummmm I wish some one with the same 780 and 4k could tell me what resolution  are they using to increase FPS....I think I make a 499 $ mistake here....

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Well you did just quadruple the pixels being displayed. There's going to be a pretty big hit with that.

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question :monitor resolution should be the same in P3D?


Well you did just quadruple the pixels being displayed. There's going to be a pretty big hit with that.

what should I do?....to increase FPS ?

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 Have you turned down or even disabled Anti Aliasing? That should help by a fair bit.

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my video card is GTX 780

 

Most of the GTX 780 cards had only 3 GB of VRAM onboard. You may not be able to fit the frame buffer at 4K into that VRAM space, so you are probably also using slower motherboard RAM to push video to the monitor.

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Most of the GTX 780 cards had only 3 GB of VRAM onboard. You may not be able to fit the frame buffer at 4K into that VRAM space, so you are probably also using slower motherboard RAM to push video to the monitor.

what it should be the solution? if there is any?

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what it should be the solution? if there is any?

 

Titan X

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Titan X

thats a 1000 $ solution...:) I think I am returning the monitor.....

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hummmm I wish some one with the same 780 and 4k could tell me what resolution  are they using to increase FPS....I think I make a 499 $ mistake here....

 

 

Well to be honest I am not seeing much of a difference between my titan x and my gtx titan so that being said all of these new hardware options that come out are not a magic bullet when it comes to flightsim anyway a 780 is not a titan so you would see performance hikes but not earth shattering I would say about 30 to 35 percent - even the mighty titan x I still cant turn anything up more than with my regular titan - in the end its all about the code of the simulator we keep throwing all of this money at it for not much gain imo and I just built a 4970k at 4.6ghz very stable - corsair platinums - Maximus VII Formula - titan x - which will be water cooled just waiting on a few more parts - pretty scary to do all of this for hardly any change from my older board - this is getting to be very expensive searching for the ultimate experience - at this point not sure we will ever see it at least under the current platform - lesson learned not throwing tons of money at it anymore for a long time

thats a 1000 $ solution...:) I think I am returning the monitor.....

 

I would return it also - you need Robs rig to get decent results and thats going to cost you a lot more than 1,000 dollars

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Well to be honest I am not seeing much of a difference between my titan x and my gtx titan so that being said all of these new hardware options that come out are not a magic bullet when it comes to flightsim anyway a 780 is not a titan so you would see performance hikes but not earth shattering I would say about 30 to 35 percent - even the mighty titan x I still cant turn anything up more than with my regular titan - in the end its all about the code of the simulator we keep throwing all of this money at it for not much gain imo and I just built a 4970k at 4.6ghz very stable - corsair platinums - Maximus VII Formula - titan x - which will be water cooled just waiting on a few more parts - pretty scary to do all of this for hardly any change from my older board - this is getting to be very expensive searching for the ultimate experience - at this point not sure we will ever see it at least under the current platform - lesson learned not throwing tons of money at it anymore for a long time

 

I would return it also - you need Robs rig to get decent results and thats going to cost you a lot more than 1,000 dollars

yeap...is in the box ready to return.....

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yeap...is in the box ready to return.....

thanks

 

No problem good luck

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thats a 1000 $ solution...:) I think I am returning the monitor.....

Or just wait a bit. Either the GTX 980 Ti or the AMD R9 390X will have more onboard VRAM and will probably be in the $700-800 range.

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Or just wait a bit. Either the GTX 980 Ti or the AMD R9 390X will have more onboard VRAM and will probably be in the $700-800 ran

hummm going way to high in  my bugged ...better turn everything back i also order a gtx 970 that I didn't open out of the box...I know it wont do the job....

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You are probably right, my 970 SSC is working overtime and i7-4790k is clocked at 4.8 pushing 1440, at a snooth 30 fps, so 4k is going to need an order of magnitude in graphics tech to ever approach what you can achieve in 1080.

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All depends where you put your sliders and what you fly.

 

With everything to the right I get 20fps with a2a level aircraft. By moving them left a click or so I get 30fps. If I fly the ngx I can only get 20fps though with the same settings. I'm using similar to robs long haul flight settings from his web site by the way.

I fly with asn, ezdoc and orbx global vector and land class or FTX England.

 

Before you return anything try it with lower sliders.

 

Chris

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so u guys think that the 4k with a gtx 970 will do the job?.....seriously I was freaked out went I saw 15 fps running the 4k with the   780....horrible.....

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Yes, you can get 20-30 fps with a 970 depending on sliders, but they don't have to be so low it suffers graphically. See if you can overclock your i7 a bit more too, it is a k series after all.

 

Chris

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Yes, you can get 20-30 fps with a 970 depending on sliders, but they don't have to be so low it suffers graphically. See if you can overclock your i7 a bit more too, it is a k series after all.

 

Chris

my I7 4790K is currently 4.6...with water cooler and a Asus heroVII ..plus 16 GB memory ram...I dont know what else should I get....but If I install the 970 I wont be able to return it..that what I asking u guys...

thanks for u responses and advises...

I have hear that the 970 really doesn't make that much difference compare the 780.......??????

another question the P3D resolution have to be the same as current monitor resolution?.....????

 

my sliders are

terrain radius ultra

Tesselation ultra

mesh 5m

texture 15 cm 

scenary compl: very dense

Autogen veg: very dense

autogen buid: normal 

 

Graphics:

FXAA off

MSAA 4 samples

Anisotropic 16X

testure resolution: 2048x2048

Vsync :off 

target frame: 33

 

using PMDG 777 KLAX to KSFO FSdream VAS is 2.878 which is really good...so VAS is not a problem...FPS really is....

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Just for information.

 

I run 4 monitors, 3 @ 1920x1080 (6000x1080 with bezel correction) in nvidia surround and one @ 1650x1050 for panel for a total pixel count of 8,212,500 which is very similar to your 4k monitor (8,294,400)

 

I have a 3570k clocked @ 4.5ghz and a un-clocked gtx 780ti and with most sliders to the right flying the Realair Duke in P3D 2.5 with lots of Orbx scenery I can achieve 30 fps except at major airports. As I don't fly the big iron I have no idea how that would perform.

 

This is just to show that although a Titan x may be desirable it is not necessary.

 

Hope this helps

 

Mick

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I run a 4770k(4.2), 780gtx(3gig) with a 27" dell ultrasharp. For me its a well balanced combination. I looked at the 4k monitors (oh, I'd love one of those) but was advised by the tech at my local computer shop who is also a gamer not to go that route, at least yet. When the next real generational change of hardware shows up -not just incremental changes - I will spring for it then. The curved monitors look like they have real potential when they become affordable and they will. That said I still lust after a 4k monitor.

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ok lets say I am keeping the 4k....with my current gtx 780...what should be the monitor resolution in windows and what should be the P3D resolution to keep my 25 to 33 FPS???

thanks


All depends where you put your sliders and what you fly.

With everything to the right I get 20fps with a2a level aircraft. By moving them left a click or so I get 30fps. If I fly the ngx I can only get 20fps though with the same settings. I'm using similar to robs long haul flight settings from his web site by the way.
I fly with asn, ezdoc and orbx global vector and land class or FTX England.

Before you return anything try it with lower sliders.

Chris

can u give me Rob web site please?

thanks

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The GTX 970 might just be enough to at least run 1440p resolution with relatively high settings, and 4K at reduced settings. It's quite an upgrade from your current card.

 

I run triples on a 980, with high settings at 60FPS. There is not a huge difference in performance from the 970 to the 980, and I'm pushing almost the number of pixels as a 4K monitor.

 

You'll find a lot of Titan or bust folks around here. IMO that is overkill in most cases. Yes, it will be able to handle anything you throw at it, but there is room for compromise.

 

If I were you I'd give that 970 a shot with that new monitor.

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The GTX 970 might just be enough to at least run 1440p resolution with relatively high settings, and 4K at reduced settings. It's quite an upgrade from your current card.

 

I run triples on a 980, with high settings at 60FPS. There is not a huge difference in performance from the 970 to the 980, and I'm pushing almost the number of pixels as a 4K monitor.

 

You'll find a lot of Titan or bust folks around here. IMO that is overkill in most cases. Yes, it will be able to handle anything you throw at it, but there is room for compromise.

 

If I were you I'd give that 970 a shot with that new monitor.

too late i returned 970...I am keeping the 4k...until decide what to do or what to get from nvidia.....

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