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I see this evening that their "Windows 10 Drivers Coming Soon" tweets have been removed from their Twitter feed. Anyone heard any updates? Those were the only promises I had seen and it appears they are gone!

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This is strange...

 

They're taking way too long! They had the entire open beta of W10 to test their drivers...

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Mine work great in Win 10 ?  I have their Rudder ( Combat Pro ) and the x.52 Pro.  No need for updated drivers I guess - the latest release, for win 7 and 8, works just great.

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Jose,

Do you keep your Saitek devices always connected to your computer, even when you are not flying? And, do you have any Saitek panels such as the Multipanel or Switch Panel?

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My Pro Flight X-65F HOTAS/Throttle and rudder pedals seem to work okay, but I'm using FSUIPC.

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Heck, does their X-52 Pro even work with USB 3.0 yet?  When I got my sticks two years ago, Windows 7 would either blue screen or simply not boot (freeze on starting windows screen).  Saitek said their X-52 Pro didn't support USB 3.0 and likely would not in the product's life.  Was told to disable USB 3.0 functionality in my motherboard to fix the problem (which it did).

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Heck, does their X-52 Pro even work with USB 3.0 yet? When I got my sticks two years ago, Windows 7 would either blue screen or simply not boot (freeze on starting windows screen). Saitek said their X-52 Pro didn't support USB 3.0 and likely would not in the product's life. Was told to disable USB 3.0 functionality in my motherboard to fix the problem (which it did).

USB 3.0 is not software dependent. The actual hardware must be certified for USB 3.0.

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USB 3.0 is not software dependent. The actual hardware must be certified for USB 3.0.

Sure. However, in my exchange with Saitek, was told it related to one of their drivers. Whether that's true or not, beats me.

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Jose,

Do you keep your Saitek devices always connected to your computer, even when you are not flying? And, do you have any Saitek panels such as the Multipanel or Switch Panel?

 

Sorry for the late reply :-/

 

Yes, I do keep them permanently connected.

 

Even with PSX ( Java-based ) they're keeping their configurations and working perfect.

 

Nope, no panels - just the Combat Rudder Pro and the X-52. Actually my X-52 was broken, so I am using just the HOTAS unit, and a T.16000 as joystick.

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Yes, I do keep them permanently connected.
 
Even with PSX ( Java-based ) they're keeping their configurations and working perfect.
 
Nope, no panels - just the Combat Rudder Pro and the X-52. Actually my X-52 was broken, so I am using just the HOTAS unit, and a T.16000 as joystick.

 

Then you are not exposed to the issues; 1) selection buttons on mouse become disabled when Saitek USB devices are unplugged (while system on), and 2) power state failure of Saitek panel due to Windows advanced power management (requires registry editing).

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I have the unplugging issue sometimes too so try and leave them in all the time. Also have an issue where the mouse starts moving in small steps and beeps every time you move it. Reboot fixes it. This is using the win 8 drivers from the site. I have yoke, pedals, quadrant and trim wheel.

 

Chris

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Then you are not exposed to the issues; 1) selection buttons on mouse become disabled when Saitek USB devices are unplugged (while system on), and 2) power state failure of Saitek panel due to Windows advanced power management (requires registry editing).

 

Ok, thx for the note anyway, should I ever be faced with it - which I hope not :-/

 

There will certainly be a fix from Saitek, sooner or later. Win 10 has just debuted ... Anyway, I thought we could easily set the power management options in win 10 ???

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There will certainly be a fix from Saitek, sooner or later. Win 10 has just debuted ... Anyway, I thought we could easily set the power management options in win 10 ???

 

Not just power management.  Found this following link this morning. Read down the thread. The most recent post at the bottom points to an underlying issue that may be hardware related.  In any case Saitek has had plenty of time to work on this from the first reports of the issues, which I believe track back to Feb or March.

 

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=157545

I have the unplugging issue sometimes too so try and leave them in all the time. Also have an issue where the mouse starts moving in small steps and beeps every time you move it. Reboot fixes it. This is using the win 8 drivers from the site. I have yoke, pedals, quadrant and trim wheel.

 

Chris

 

Chris. Here is a method to perhaps overcome the issue.  After you have finished flying, and before you unplug the devices, go into Control Panel, Device Manager, and open up the HID section. Find the devices you wish to unplug, right click on them, and disable them.  That works for me for the time being.  I am then able to unplug without the issues.  

 

You may have to go back into Device Manager and enable them before you use them the next time. Plugging them in may get them recognized, but may not automatically enable them.

 

I have a Pro Flight Yoke and Rudder Pedals and they are clearly identified in the HID section.  I also have a Saitek Multipanel and had to do some trial and error to identify it in the section.  

 

For others reading this, for some of use who use our sim computer for other day-to-day purposes and do not have a home cockpit so to speak, leaving the devices plugged in is not an option as they are then physically in the way. I can leave my rudder pedals plugged in, but I have to remove the yoke. So the suggestions to leave them plugged in is not feasible in our cases.

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I can leave them plugged in and generally do. The problem is I get this behaviour every so often when they are plugged in and has even happened mid flight. It's rare but annoying. Hoping for new drivers soon from saitek.

 

Chris

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So what is our alternative? Anyone I am not aware of that competes with Saitek at a similar price point? If so I am gone. eBay and caveat emptor!

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Something might have changed. I booted up this afternoon and my TQ is now powered and ready to go. Prior to this I've had to disable and enable it in the device manager to get it to power up. So it's possible a fix has come through via windows update.

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Jessica. No luck here. I am sure my Windows 10 updated today but my drivers are still the same, from 2011.  If I delete them it appears Windows just installs them again the next time I connect them.

 

Is there any way to view Windows 10 update history?

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Jessica. No luck here. I am sure my Windows 10 updated today but my drivers are still the same, from 2011.  If I delete them it appears Windows just installs them again the next time I connect them.

 

Is there any way to view Windows 10 update history?

Yes. Go to Windows Updates, Advanced Options, View Your Update History. And if you click on Uninstall Updates, you get the classic Control Panel list.

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Reinstalled saitek win 8.1 64 bit drivers for each device and flew without crashing. Need further testing to ensure stability but looks good.

 

Chris

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Yes. Go to Windows Updates, Advanced Options, View Your Update History. And if you click on Uninstall Updates, you get the classic Control Panel list.

 

Where is it that you are going to Windows Updates in Win 10? I don't find in tghe list it via a right-click on the Start button, and don't find it in Control Panel.

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Where is it that you are going to Windows Updates in Win 10? I don't find in tghe list it via a right-click on the Start button, and don't find it in Control Panel.

Use the search box that's built in.

 

Or, use the new "Settings" thing.

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I am aware that this post is old, but I still suffer from this bleeping crash that apparently occurs when disconnecting the Saitek Combat pedals (I do not have this problem with the X-52 Joystick). Anyhow, I might have a workaround for those who still have this problem when it occurs randomly without disconnecting:

-Go to Device Manager (rightclick on Start and choose Device manager)

 

-Find your pedals and rightclick on the USB device and choose properties.

 

-Under the Power Management TAB untick "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power."

 

Win 10 has major issues with this on many devices (Or the driver developers have major issues with this feature on win 10).
Anyhow, I am sorry if this has been solved elsewhere and that I am revoking an old post, but if there is another fix out there please let me know. I have still not found anything that works.

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It's a Saitek issue, not Windows 10. Saitek have let a lot of their customers down with a failure to produce decent drivers. Take the X65F HOTAS for example. Cost a relative fortune for a joystick and it remains a paperweight with no decent Windows 10 driver a full year after the OS was launched. Pity as it is a really solid piece of equipment.

 

Pop it on eBay and change brands. :(

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Although I have to agree that Mad Catz (who now own Saitek) have really messed up when it comes to support under Windows 10, it is a bit over the top to say that Saitek products don't work at all under the OS. I am still using the Windows 8.1 driver for my X-65F (version 7.0.10.6 dated 5/18/2011) and it works just fine with P3d, either directly or with FSUIPC. Further, Mad Catz has issued a beta driver (7.0.45.10, dated 10/2/2015):

 

http://madcatz.kayako.com/Knowledgebase/Article/View/604/0/windows-10--saitek-hotas-beta-drivers-and-software-release

 

and there are comparable beta Windows 10 drivers for other Saitek products:

 

ftp://ftp.saitek.com/pub/software/beta/Windows10/

 

Basically, it's pretty evident that someone at Mad Catz is very confused about how to provide legitimate drivers and technical support.

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I have tried these drivers 7.0.10.6 and the newer beta drivers but for some reason the X-65F stick works sometimes, more commonly not. Then it's uninstall driver, reboot, reinstall driver, sometimes repeat a few times. I gave up. My son has a Win 10 PC and FSX. We have had the exact same issue on his PC.

 

I have not tried it again since moving to P3D. My system is not a beta test system. Pulled out my old Microsoft Forcefeedback 2 stick and it works perfectly.

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