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Terrible Performance

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Skip the RAM and go for the SSD - 8G is more than enough.

 

I really like MyTraffic6 but ANY AI program will give a performance hit if you set the slider too high.

 

 

Vic

 

SSD should affect loading of OS and startup of P3D, but don't see the relationship of an SSD with FPS? 

 

 

 

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SSD should affect loading of OS and startup of P3D, but don't see the relationship of an SSD with FPS?

There really isn't any. if you are lucky and your existing system is bogged down with disk transfer, then you might see an minimal increase due to faster texture loading but I would not buy an SSD with the intention of improving FPS.

 

And going to more memory or faster memory will also have little to no impact on FPS at all.

 

Again, depending on your existing system you might see smoother operation of the sim with SSD.

 

Vic

 

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There really isn't any. if you are lucky and your existing system is bogged down with disk transfer, then you might see an minimal increase due to faster texture loading but I would not buy an SSD with the intention of improving FPS.

 

And going to more memory or faster memory will also have little to no impact on FPS at all.

 

Again, depending on your existing system you might see smoother operation of the sim with SSD.

 

Vic

 

I might just focus the money on getting my PMDG planes into P3D and/or other various sceneries in that case. Maybe if P3D goes 64bit one day I'll look into more memory it seems.

One other quick question, I assume at this point any significant increase in FPS would only come from improving my CPU correct? I was looking at some comparisons and it seems my current processor is probably not worth replacing quite yet. So other than the video card which is on the way and possibly a dedicated SSD for P3D, it seems like that's about all I should really improve at this point.

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One other quick question, I assume at this point any significant increase in FPS would only come from improving my CPU correct? I was looking at some comparisons and it seems my current processor is probably not worth replacing quite yet. So other than the video card which is on the way and possibly a dedicated SSD for P3D, it seems like that's about all I should really improve at this point.

Pretty much hit the nail on the head. the expression "bang for the buck" comes to mind - at this point you would be behind the curve by throwing significant $$ at anything other than the CPU.

 

Determine which sliders affect the CPU and which affect the GPU and adjust accordingly.

 

Usually, autogen and traffic hit the CPU hardest so if you can keep those lower you're going to get an increase. By themselves, clouds don't affect the CPU that much UNTIL they swamp the GPU which then steals cycles from the CPU and the FPS start to tank.

 

When you get the new card in, take some time and play with the settings and see if you can get the sweet spot for your setup. Look for SMOOTH operation across the board and adjust the FPS afterward.

 

Vic

 

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Good stuff,  as Brian correctly stated you might be better off getting rid of SSG altogether to have a smooth Sim and just experiment with NivdIa control panel and P3D control panel.  But its an improvement,  which is great.  

 

 

 

Brian,  when your changing settings in the NvidIa control panel,  do you change Global  or  P3D.exe.   Which works best 

 

You change it for P3D unless that is the settings you want for EVERY game you play.

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Cool thank you Brian,  i only asked because i often seen some people changed different settings in Global and P3D.  Thank you 

 

 

 

Well finally got to play around with the card. Flew in to CPH (FT) with lots of clouds and pretty high settings; very dense auto gen, tesselation, max texture res for the most part and just a little bit of traffic. Was getting a staeday 22-25 on approach and 25+ on the ground. It would drop a little in the cockpit. The AI is what seems like is killing it. Switched to WOAI and set it for 10% and used the limiter to keep it at 35 that's what cost me to go from locked at 30 to 22ish.

 

My PC in general has been running a little slow just from all the stuff installed on it. Haven't done a clean install in about two years so once I pull the trigger on some SSDs, which is just a matter of time, I'll see if I get any improvement from that.

Determine which sliders affect the CPU and which affect the GPU and adjust accordingly.

 

Vic

 

It would be so handy if somewhere there was a guide that told you the ratio of load going to the CPU or GPU for each setting.

 

Well finally got to play around with the card. Flew in to CPH (FT) with lots of clouds and pretty high settings; very dense auto gen, tesselation, max texture res for the most part and just a little bit of traffic. Was getting a staeday 22-25 on approach and 25+ on the ground. It would drop a little in the cockpit. The AI is what seems like is killing it. Switched to WOAI and set it for 10% and used the limiter to keep it at 35 that's what cost me to go from locked at 30 to 22ish.

 

My PC in general has been running a little slow just from all the stuff installed on it. Haven't done a clean install in about two years so once I pull the trigger on some SSDs, which is just a matter of time, I'll see if I get any improvement from that.

 

Following your posts Chief, I just want to check base with you on your situation. It looks from what you have written that you bought the GTX 970 but have not really seen any significant FPS increase from the GPU upgrade. Is that correct?

It would be so handy if somewhere there was a guide that told you the ratio of load going to the CPU or GPU for each setting.

 

 

Following your posts Chief, I just want to check base with you on your situation. It looks from what you have written that you bought the GTX 970 but have not really seen any significant FPS increase from the GPU upgrade. Is that correct?

 

I have actually seen significant improvements. For starters, things such as pumping up the setting in NI and increasing cloud coverage isn't bottlenecking the system. As a comparison I used the following.

 

Same settings (modest-high, only difference being the 2nd test had tessellation on high)

 

Imaginesim ATL

Aerosoft A320

REX Clouds

FTX Global+Vector

Activesky Next running

AI 10%

 

Old setup with GTX 660 I was getting a max of 8 fps looking at the entire terminal complex.

New setup with GTX 970 I was getting around 18 with the same view.

 

Overall, much more stable sim and I no longer have to worry about the clouds or autogen killing my FPS. Performance in heavy paywares like SFO and SYD are very good (capped at 30) so it seems, like someone above said, ATL with traffic is simply a nightmare.

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