January 4, 201610 yr P3D V3.1 introduced a new SDK FX item called "Ground Decal" (Ground Decal = 1) ... this should be used in most situations where an existing FX uses "Ground Normal" (3rd party ship wakes and/or wave files). You can apply the Ground Decal = 1 to any other FX that uses Ground Normal ... for example any existing 3rd party product that has not been updated to include the new P3D V3.1 FX option. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw0Q-fAfEZwyRG53b21KZnVFemM/view?usp=sharing Here is a video I made to demonstrate what these files fix: As always, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Cheers, Rob.
January 4, 201610 yr Thanks for tip Rob, I'll look into this. The video certainly makes it look like a worthwhile addition. cheers Ian Ian S
January 4, 201610 yr Pete, just download Rob's folder and you'll find complete instructions ;-) - PC Hardware: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D // Asus ROG Crosshair X870E HERO // 2x32Gb Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5 6000MT/s CL30 // ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition // 4Tb Corsair NVMe M.2 MP600 // Corsair 1600W PSU Samsung Odyssey Arc 55" curved 165 Hz monitor. - Simulator Hardware: VIRPIL Constellation Alpha Prime + VIRPIL VPC Universal Control Panel - #3 + MOZA AY210 Force Feedback Yoke + WINWING URSA MINOR 32 Throttle & PAC Metal + WINWING SKYWALKER Metal Rudder Pedals + WINWING Airbus FCU & EFIS + WINWING Boeing 3N PAP + WINWING MCDU-32 + WINWING PFP-4 + WINWING PFP 3-N + WINWING PFP-7.
January 4, 201610 yr Thanks David. I mistook the folder for being the video that Rob normally uploads. Should have opened my eyes Cheers Pete
January 4, 201610 yr Hi, this happens only with FT Corfu or it is general?. Cheers, Edward Pete, just download Rob's folder and you'll find complete instructions ;-) Oh David, that bug came into my computer! Cheers, Ed MSFS2020 Steam // Rig: Corsair Graphite 760T Full Tower - ASUS MBoard Maximus XII Hero Z490 - CPU Intel i9-10900K - 64GB RAM - MSI RTX2080 Super 8GB - [1xNVMe M.2 1TB + 1xNVMe M.2 2TB (Samsung)] + [1xSSD 1TB + 1xSSD 2TB (Crucial)] + [1xSSD 1TB (Samsung)] + 1 HDD Seagate 2TB + 1 HDD Seagate External 4TB - Monitor LG 29UC97C UWHD Curved - PSU Corsair RM1000x // Thrustmaster FCS & MS XBOX Controllers
January 4, 201610 yr Hi, this happens only with FT Corfu or it is general?. It will happen with any 3rd party product that has their own custom FX that uses Ground Normal (in most cases this will be waves and ship wakes) ... so you can either wait for 3rd party to update (I'm guessing many will not) or do the updates yourself ... just locate all FX files that use Ground Normal and add the Ground Decal = 1 entry. Cheers, Rob. EDIT: all the P3D default ships will have this "fix" already IF you did a FULL install or IF you included the Content install when updating.
January 4, 201610 yr I wrote a small utility that will scan the folder and add the Ground Decal=1 if the Ground Normal=1 entry exists. It can 'scan', 'apply' or 'remove' the fix. I don't know if this is what you mean Rob, but if it is, you can use the utility which i provide here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w2weoelil6pcas2/ChangeFX.exe?dl=0 Put it in P3D\Effects and run it through a command prompt (admin might be required). It will show you instructions on screen. Hope it helps. NOTE: Although i have tested it and it does its job, always ALWAYS backup your files prior to editing them. CASE: Fractal Terra Silver CPU: AMD R5 7800X3D 5.0Ghz RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 GPU: nVidia RTX 4070 Ti SUPER · SSDs: Samsung 990 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe · PNY XLR8 CS3040 2TB M.2 PCIe · VIDEO: LG-32GK650F QHD 32" 144Hz FREE/G-SYNC · MISC: Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Joystick + Throttle Quadrant · MSFS2024 · Windows 11
January 4, 201610 yr wrote a small utility that will scan the folder and add the Ground Decal=1 if the Ground Normal=1 entry exists. It can 'scan', 'apply' or 'remove' the fix. Excellent, many thanks! I'll check it out ... probably also needs to scan any drive and sub-dirs as FX files in P3D can technically be located anywhere now, not just in the Effects folder. Cheers, Rob.
January 4, 201610 yr Excellent, many thanks! I'll check it out ... probably also needs to scan any drive and sub-dirs as FX files in P3D can technically be located anywhere now, not just in the Effects folder. Cheers, Rob. I can adapt it, right now it only scans the folder it's in. CASE: Fractal Terra Silver CPU: AMD R5 7800X3D 5.0Ghz RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 GPU: nVidia RTX 4070 Ti SUPER · SSDs: Samsung 990 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe · PNY XLR8 CS3040 2TB M.2 PCIe · VIDEO: LG-32GK650F QHD 32" 144Hz FREE/G-SYNC · MISC: Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Joystick + Throttle Quadrant · MSFS2024 · Windows 11
January 4, 201610 yr I wrote a small utility that will scan the folder and add the Ground Decal=1 if the Ground Normal=1 entry exists. It can 'scan', 'apply' or 'remove' the fix. I have scaned the "effects" folder and there are also light effects, airport effects and other files that appear to require the fix. Although they have the "ground normal entry", I am not sure how these files are related to decal. The SDK states: "If ground decal is set to 1 the particle will decal on to the ground surface. This is for such effects as wake, rotor wash, burn marks, and similar ground effects." So is safe to apply the fix really to ALL effect files within the effects folder? Cheers, Chris Regards, Chris -- PC: Intel 13900K, Gigabyte Geforce RTX 4090, 64GB Fury Beast DDR5 RAM; Display: Varjo Aero VR
January 4, 201610 yr Yeah that's my doubt as well... I did apply to all my effects, everything seems to be working fine, but i think you have a point there. If Rob could help us out here, would be nice. CASE: Fractal Terra Silver CPU: AMD R5 7800X3D 5.0Ghz RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 GPU: nVidia RTX 4070 Ti SUPER · SSDs: Samsung 990 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe · PNY XLR8 CS3040 2TB M.2 PCIe · VIDEO: LG-32GK650F QHD 32" 144Hz FREE/G-SYNC · MISC: Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Joystick + Throttle Quadrant · MSFS2024 · Windows 11
January 4, 201610 yr It will happen with any 3rd party product that has their own custom FX that uses Ground Normal (in most cases this will be waves and ship wakes) ... so you can either wait for 3rd party to update (I'm guessing many will not) or do the updates yourself ... just locate all FX files that use Ground Normal and add the Ground Decal = 1 entry. Cheers, Rob. EDIT: all the P3D default ships will have this "fix" already IF you did a FULL install or IF you included the Content install when updating. Thanks, clear enough. Cheers, Edward Cheers, Ed MSFS2020 Steam // Rig: Corsair Graphite 760T Full Tower - ASUS MBoard Maximus XII Hero Z490 - CPU Intel i9-10900K - 64GB RAM - MSI RTX2080 Super 8GB - [1xNVMe M.2 1TB + 1xNVMe M.2 2TB (Samsung)] + [1xSSD 1TB + 1xSSD 2TB (Crucial)] + [1xSSD 1TB (Samsung)] + 1 HDD Seagate 2TB + 1 HDD Seagate External 4TB - Monitor LG 29UC97C UWHD Curved - PSU Corsair RM1000x // Thrustmaster FCS & MS XBOX Controllers
January 5, 201610 yr If Rob could help us out here, would be nice. I believe it will depend on the surface ... if the ground surface is uneven it should actually work better (good example is when landing lights traverse uneven terrain you can see clipping, Ground Decal might actually fix that) ... but FX can sometimes be a "mystery" on how they work/interact my dealings with them often end up being trial and error (due to some hard coded processing). I haven't tested but you might want to try and see if you can get landing lights to follow terrain without clipping (probably not since I think we're back to hard coded processing with landing lights). Cheers, Rob.
January 5, 201610 yr Thank you Rob, cheers! CASE: Fractal Terra Silver CPU: AMD R5 7800X3D 5.0Ghz RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 GPU: nVidia RTX 4070 Ti SUPER · SSDs: Samsung 990 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe · PNY XLR8 CS3040 2TB M.2 PCIe · VIDEO: LG-32GK650F QHD 32" 144Hz FREE/G-SYNC · MISC: Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Joystick + Throttle Quadrant · MSFS2024 · Windows 11
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