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Aerosoft Night Environment norway v1.71 Released! (P3Dv3 Compatible)

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Night Environment Norway v1.71 Released!
Night Environment Norway is finally getting a long waites face lift from Aerosoft,
this is a complete new version that includes our latest Textures and Quad installer; with support for Prepar3D v3.x,

the new release is coupled with our v1.7x series standards; including...
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Thank you! Been waiting for this one for a while:-)

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Downloaded and installed, done the configuration as described in the pdf(the 6-paged one launched from NEXM), NE is at the top in the Scenery library(only 1 area this time, no Level 3/2/1/0 and base), however, I can not see any nightlighting from NE, only the lights from Orbx Norway. No changes with NE Norway checked/unchecked in the library either, so something is not right. Any ideas?

 

This is in P3D v3 btw, the 3- paged pdf in the NE folder under P3D/Aerosoft seems to be a bit outdated.

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Hi Tom,

did you remember to hit apply in NEXM!!! :smile:

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I did! I at least think I followed the instructions, but heres what I did;

 

  • Downloaded NE and installed it into P3Dv3.1
  • NEXM launched automatically
  • I hit the Tools button and selected Reset Region and chose Default Preset(also tried High, Mid and Basic)
  • Checked that Lights was set to On, Finetuning was all set to 100% and Night Map to On
  • Checked Selected FS was P3Dv3(greyed out as P3Dv3 is my only installed FS), Selected Region was Norway v1.7 and Selected subregion is greyed out but says Main Region
  • Hit the Apply changes and closed NEXM
  • Started P3D
  • Still no lights
  • Checked the Scenery library and confirmed the NE Norway is right at the top of that list and is checked

Next thing I did was check the Aerosoft folder and what I saw was this;

  • In the Scenery folder, all bgl files was named xxxxxxxxxxx.BGL.OFF
  • So I figured those .OFF extensions should probably be removed by NEXM, but was not
  • I renamed allmost all files so that they now where BGL files. I chose not rename LYL1, LYL2, OL1, OL2, WL1, WL2, YL1,and YL2 as I think this might have something to do with the High,Med and Basic Settings. I did change to LYL3.BGL.OFF to LYL3.BGL and the same with OL3, WL3 and YL3. All Nightmap_PartXX was changed from BGL.OFF to BGL.
  • I let NorwayVectorExlude stay OFF as I suspect this has to do with the Orbx Vector software?
  • I launched P3D again and this time, Nightlighting was visible(and wonderfull)
  • I closed P3D and started writing this post, and to remember what the different settings I fired up NEXM again to check the name of the settings. When I did this, I also noticed that all the BGL files I renamed, was again renamed to BGL.OFF
  • Fired up P3D again to confirm my suspision and yes, NE was missing again

So my conclusion for now is that NEXM somehow wrongly sets all BGL files to BGL.OFF(I'm guessing its only supposed to set some of them depending on High, Mid or Basic, to OFF, not all?). I can workaround this once again by renaming all files and not launch NEXM, but I would prefer to figure this one out and make NEXM functional again. So NE is fine when I rename, but NEXM is a no go at the moment:-/ Hope you can shed some light on this:-)

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Hi Tom,

i was hoping it was as simple as that; my apologies :)

i don’t like it when our customers don’t get the smooth "out of the box" WoW experience,

there is a chance you have a faulty installer!

can you download a new fresh installer;

reinstall and report back please,

 

Kind regards

Chris

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Hi Stefan,

generally speaking and this should be common knowledge by now; any scenery has the potential to cause CTD's,

(NE could be contributing if your running thin as is); i suspect in this particular case it is not NE causing the CTD directly;

it is a bug found in v3.1 which has already been reported, traced, and expected update from LM should resolve this minor issue,

 

make sure you’re not pushing the limit unnecessarily at night so NE has room to operate;

read up on our forums how to properly setup for night time flights,

if you’re still getting delays during load time (3.1 bug); leave it alone for few minutes;

the scenery will eventually load normally,

 

you can read more on LM

http://www.prepar3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6312&t=116596

 

or read the discussion going on our support forums

http://forums.nightenvironment.com/topic/124-prepar3d-version-31

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Well, the loading lag of up to 15 min is annoying, especially if one likes to change airport positions when the sim is started or if you want to make tests. Life time is limited...

 

It would be nice to know from LM when they are planning to release their fix for the bug that was introduced in 3.1. Obviously NE worked in P3D v3.0.

 

In the worst case, trusty NE customers need to wait for the P3D v3.2 release, which can take up to several months. Not good, hopefully LM will publish a patch sooner.

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are the lights also visibile when on "cruising" altitude for example FL350 ? 

 

That`s a thing which is extremly disturbing me at FTX Products ( Global , ....) on the ground or till FL100 the look great but as soon as you climb more everything is totaly dark. 

 

that`s the point where i like GEP3D and UTX V2 much much more.

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So, I believe based on what I've read so far that this is compatible with all 3rd party scenery.  Has anyone tried running this with Orbx FTX EU Norway?  Even more specifically, is it even remotely possible to run this w/ Orbx Norway region and Aerosoft Norway airports and, the NGX???  I'm assuming this is just asking for an OOM and is the main reason I have not bought this.  I know you can configure it at different levels but if running the above combination means I have to have the settings for NE so low that it won't make much difference, then it's not really going to be worth it in the end.  Can anyone prove me wrong here and care to share their settings so I can see just how low you have to go in order to add this into the mix?

 

Even if the answers to this so far are positive, it sounds like I'd at least have to wait for P3Dv3.2 before I attempted to try this with the bug.

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hopefully LM will publish a patch sooner.

i dont think we will need to hold off for months for the update;

Goldfrab didnt mention it will be fixed in 3.2; an alternative for the optimists among us :)

 

 

are the lights also visibile when on "cruising" altitude for example FL350 ?

wouldn’t publish my product any other way;

don’t take my word for it; let your own eyes see the differences!

 

(min 2:30 i start to climb up fast; i set the video to start at that time;

but i don’t think the link will start on time; manually slide to min 2:30 sit back and watch in 1080HD)

 

 

 

Has anyone tried running this with Orbx FTX EU Norway? Even more specifically, is it even remotely possible to run this w/ Orbx Norway region and Aerosoft Norway airports and, the NGX??? I'm assuming this is just asking for an OOM

don’t assume; you know what you do when you "as$ u me" :P

we worked very hard the past few years to base your opinion on assumption alone!

 

once again; let your eyes do the learning

the user below is running NE Germany with FTX together

(IMO he should have turned FTX off there; it takes away from the effect having lights turn on in clusters in front of you autogen style;

the lights that flicker on and off are ftx lights mixed in with NE's lights; also take a moment to read the gentleman’s specs as well; which will knock your socks off on top)

 

 

you can also read an independent review made for one of our biggest regions ever

http://mutleyshangar.com/reviews/jg/nef/nef.htm

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Hi Tom,

i was hoping it was as simple as that; my apologies :)

i don’t like it when our customers don’t get the smooth "out of the box" WoW experience,

there is a chance you have a faulty installer!

can you download a new fresh installer;

reinstall and report back please,

 

Kind regards

Chris

Yes, I forgot to mention, I tried downloading from both German and US servers anf have reinstalled 3 times with same results. I also should mention that I previosly had NEXM installed as a standalone while waiting for the 1.7 version and before knowing NEXM would be bundled with the NE package. I have deleted this, but since I couldnt find a uninstallapp for NEXM only, I just deleted that folder. Dont know if there are any remains from the old NEXM in the registry that could be causing some issues? When I run NEXM, I run the one thats installed by NE. In any case, where in the registry is the NE-related stuff located so that I can clean it and try once more?

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i dont think we will need to hold off for months for the update;

Goldfrab didnt mention it will be fixed in 3.2; an alternative for the optimists among us :)

 

 

 

wouldn’t publish my product any other way;

don’t take my word for it; let your own eyes see the differences!

 

(min 2:30 i start to climb up fast; i set the video to start at that time;

but i don’t think the link will start on time; manually slide to min 2:30 sit back and watch in 1080HD)

 

 

 

 

 

don’t assume; you know what you do when you "as$ u me" :P

we worked very hard the past few years to base your opinion on assumption alone!

 

once again; let your eyes do the learning

the user below is running NE Germany with FTX together

(IMO he should have turned FTX off there; it takes away from the effect having lights turn on in clusters in front of you autogen style;

the lights that flicker on and off are ftx lights mixed in with NE's lights; also take a moment to read the gentleman’s specs as well; which will knock your socks off on top)

 

 

 

you can also read an independent review made for one of our biggest regions ever

http://mutleyshangar.com/reviews/jg/nef/nef.htm

But FTX Global (and maybe Vector) I'm assuming here is what's being used as that's all that's available from Orbx in this area, is totally different than a "fat" region from Orbx like Norway especially. I can OOM flying over downtown Oslo as it is now. Adding NE would mean I'd really have to drop settings down. Maybe to a point where NE lights are so few they not even noticeable or worth it?

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Thanks chris :-)

 

So i will Purchase alps soon for testing :-)

 

Is there a manual to configure everything properly with ftx and vector ....

 

:-)

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Yes, I forgot to mention, I tried downloading from both German and US servers anf have reinstalled 3 times with same results.

since we have a dedicated support forums; our support section here on AVSIM was dissolved among the various areas (consensual);

I suggest you stop by our forums so I can work with you closely figuring out what going on there;

it does sound like something isn’t working as expect for you,

 

I can OOM flying over downtown Oslo as it is now. Adding NE would mean I'd really have to drop settings down. Maybe to a point where NE lights are so few they not even noticeable or worth it?

That is a possibility; you can remedy some of the stress during night flight without losing any visual effects;

Just brows our performance and tweaking area on our forums to learn how to enhance your night environment,

 

Regardless which third party night add-ons being used;

NE will always show its dominance when turned on; even at its lowest settings! (you can read and visually see why in our FAQ area)

 

you can quote me on that! you will still not be able to notice ftx lights at NE's lowest settings!

they will be noticeable because they pop up; NE's visuals will still completely take over,

you will not be able to ignore NE's presence no matter what else you have there or how low NE is on,

 

Is there a manual to configure everything properly with ftx and vector ....

yes; our forums are full with all that good stuff you need to take full advantage of NE,

we also included pre-defined settings as a starting point in NEXM;

pull down the settings menu and you will find 3 predefined profile settings to start with as your baseline,

 

as for ftx lights you can go several ways about it; there is no one fit all solution,

mix them with NE, partially mix 3rd party lights; or completely exclude them out,

either way you prefer the both sceneries are compatible with each other and can easily integrate seamlessly together (as seen in the video),

 

the basic manual NE and NEXM ship with has good information to get you started and familiar with all the elements you can control,

nevertheless the information we have accumulated on our support forums cannot be put in the manual;

think of it as a live manual where you can communicate directly with me and our community can offer their input in various settings and scenarios,

the built in manual’s are nice; but our forums provide much more in-depth and extensive information related to NE directly,

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But FTX Global (and maybe Vector) I'm assuming here is what's being used as that's all that's available from Orbx in this area, is totally different than a "fat" region from Orbx like Norway especially. I can OOM flying over downtown Oslo as it is now. Adding NE would mean I'd really have to drop settings down. Maybe to a point where NE lights are so few they not even noticeable or worth it?

Is that in P3Dv3.1? I have both FTX Global and Orbx Norway installed alongside with AoN and payware ENTC, Svolvær, 20 payware European airports, NE and ASN and I'm nowhere close to an OOM even in the PMDG T7 anywhere in Norway. A while ago I tried flying from Mega Airport Berlin to Mega Airport Rome in the T7 to check VAS, and my VAS at start, during and landing was about 2,6, never reaching above 2,8, and thats with all my payware airports activated. Are you running this on very high settings?

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I’m with Tom there,

P3D v3.x is the only way to go today; hands down!

 

we still test NE on FSX and SE platforms; fact is we started with only FSX as our main platform few years back;

but today it is so inferior to what the guys at LM are doing to the sim platform; still in its 32bit limits!

it's absolutely ridicules to hang on to fsx or anything other than P3D v3.0 today (IMHO)

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Is that in P3Dv3.1? I have both FTX Global and Orbx Norway installed alongside with AoN and payware ENTC, Svolvær, 20 payware European airports, NE and ASN and I'm nowhere close to an OOM even in the PMDG T7 anywhere in Norway. A while ago I tried flying from Mega Airport Berlin to Mega Airport Rome in the T7 to check VAS, and my VAS at start, during and landing was about 2,6, never reaching above 2,8, and thats with all my payware airports activated. Are you running this on very high settings?

Yes, in 3.1. I have pretty high settings. I know that. But I complete 9 out of 10 flights even with the high settings. I'm just saying that with Orbx Norway and NE, is it possible to run it with the NGX and still have it be worth it without having to drop settings so low that it won't pay much to have it

 

The more I think about it, I would probably just disable Orbx Norway when enabling NE as who needs all the detail of Orbx Norway at night anyway?

 

I think I will give this product a try once 3.2 comes out that fixes whatever bug exists now.

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So much have changes since fsx development stopped almost 10 years ago,
We were left behind with undeveloped platform that suffered issues with outdated software that couldn’t take advantage of new hardware capabilities,
Since there were 5 generations of operating systems; each generation vastly improving software and hardware integration;
It got to the point now that new processors will only support win 10 and up (sounds familiar for those who were on xp win2k years back?)
Same thing is happening again; huge upgrade on the horizon hardware wise with new CPU line from intel,
Heck people are doubling up their FPS today with the same hardware just upgrading their OS to the latest,

up until 2 years ago none of this mattered as we were stuck with what we had; well…
The guys at LM are taking all this new seamless software and hardware integration of these days;
and putting them to max usage in today’s sim, That’s what P3D v3 is!
Its 10 generation ahead of fsx and at least 5 from se!
 

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I’m with Tom there,

P3D v3.x is the only way to go today; hands down!

 

we still test NE on FSX and SE platforms; fact is we started with only FSX as our main platform few years back;

but today it is so inferior to what the guys at LM are doing to the sim platform; still in its 32bit limits!

it's absolutely ridicules to hang on to fsx or anything other than P3D v3.0 today (IMHO)

Exactly!! The only valid reason IMO, to not be at P3Dv3 is simply $$$. If you can't afford it, I can understand that. Or, maybe because your computer can't handle it. Those are the only valid reasons I can see not having P3Dv3.

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We're P3d installers ever issued for California?

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since we have a dedicated support forums; our support section here on AVSIM was dissolved among the various areas (consensual);

I suggest you stop by our forums so I can work with you closely figuring out what going on there;

it does sound like something isn’t working as expect for you,

 

Hi again! I have fixed the issue. It was my Bitdefender Internet Security acting up and it kept blocking "nightenviromentx_manager.exe accessing a webresource ". I did not know nexm went online when being used, so once I whitelisted in the Webprotection-settings, everthing is in order:-) I already had nexm in the exclusionlist in the antivirus-settings but apparently that was not enough.

 

FYI; Bitdefender really doesnt like your nightenviroment webpages for some reason, I also had to whitelist your forum to gain access.

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Removed http://nexm***** by request.

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