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Entering G100 Flight Plan Problems

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Running Win10 (64) - FSX Acceleration

 

Having trouble entering a flight plan in the G1000.  I enter starting airport and continue with waypoints. When I get to the point where the flight plan need to scroll up so that I may enter another waypoint at the bottom, the starting airport disappears.  I continue entering waypoints 'til the end then go back to the top and add the starting airport.  At this point I am unable to save the flight plan. If I press the menu button, nothing happens.  How do you save the flight plan?

 

I note there is a choice to load an airway. However, when I press the button, I'm asked for a country code.  What is the code for the United States?  

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Dutch:

 

I have Bert's mods but, first,  I want to try what I paid for from Carenado.

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Hello tjrush

 

I have a situation close to yours. I also have the GTN 750 installed in the 300 and it working fine but I wanted to try the G1000 just for the fun of it...something to try, but I am not able to enter a flight plan in the system. I have a post http://www.avsim.com/topic/481818-procedures-options-not-selectable/ on the third page of this section explaining my situation but no has responded. Wondering if you have had any success with your problem or any ideas.  I have not used this plane in FSX much as of late due to the lack of time and from also putting some time into the aerosoft airbus extended ... trying to get more familiar with it as well.  I enjoy the Phenom 300 and the airbus and hope to get comfortable with both.

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You cannot save a flight plan in the Carenado G1000.  I bought the Navigraph package and have the Navigraph G1000 guide. The product also has a very good 33 page Carenado G1000 guide. The Navigraph G1000 guide consists of 7 pages but it provides a pretty good tutorial starting on page 5.  What I do is go to the FPL page. I set up the departure airport first and the hit ENT (this is the most important part of setting up a flight plan).  I then move the cursor down to the next waypoint and setup the arrival airport and then hit ENT.  I then click on PROC and then select my departure and that will give me a SID to select.  Once I select the one I want I move down to the takeoff runway and select that, and then select a transition.  Unfortunately, Navigraph said I must select a transition so I select whatever is there (so far I have not found a 'none' option).  I then go all the way down to the bottom and highlight Load and click ENT.  The plan is there to the start of the STAR.  I'll then go in and remove the transition waypoint.  I sometimes select the STAR before I takeoff. 

 

Having the Navigraph addon from Carenado is nice in that you do not have to enter waypoints most of the time and just select a SID and then a STAR, a takeoff runway and a landing runway.  Is this real life?  I doubt it but close. 

 

I'm not sure if placing the GTN 750 into this product is wise.  Is that done in real life too?  You can save flight plans and load flight plans but so what?  It's not realistic IMHO.  I say learn the nav system that comes with the aircraft and product.  It works if you know how to use it (but you cannot save flight plans or import flight plans and I totally agree Carenado should have included this with their product).

 

Best regards,

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Jim,

 

While I agree with you about using what comes with the plane, sometimes it is just more trouble than it's worth.  Here is a simple flight plan from KTEB to KORF:

 

KTEB ELVAE COL WHITE J209 SBY V1 CCV KORF

 

I have no problem entering KTEB ELVAE COL WHITE KORF or KTEB ELVAE COL KORF   Either way I am unable to enter the airway from WHITE to SBY.  Everything I try results in the waypoints along the airway being inserted in the flight plan alternating with the existing waypoints.  Please let me know if you can enter this plan  and, if so, how.

 

Another problem I had and I might have done something wrong but I don't think so.  I flew to KIRS and selected an LPV approach to runway 36.  I received no vertical guidance from the Carenado G1000,  I reflew using Flight 1 and had no problem.  Does the Carenado G1000 provide vertical guidance on LPV approaches?

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Jim,

 

While I agree with you about using what comes with the plane, sometimes it is just more trouble than it's worth.  Here is a simple flight plan from KTEB to KORF:

 

KTEB ELVAE COL WHITE J209 SBY V1 CCV KORF

 

I have no problem entering KTEB ELVAE COL WHITE KORF or KTEB ELVAE COL KORF   Either way I am unable to enter the airway from WHITE to SBY.  Everything I try results in the waypoints along the airway being inserted in the flight plan alternating with the existing waypoints.  Please let me know if you can enter this plan  and, if so, how.

 

Another problem I had and I might have done something wrong but I don't think so.  I flew to KIRS and selected an LPV approach to runway 36.  I received no vertical guidance from the Carenado G1000,  I reflew using Flight 1 and had no problem.  Does the Carenado G1000 provide vertical guidance on LPV approaches?

 

Did you see my reply to your post in the other thread concerning entering airway routing?

 

http://www.avsim.com/topic/485012-anyone-using-the-g1000/

 

Your flight plan above works but you will need to reference three different manuals to do so.  The two Carenado manuals and the actual manual I provide a link to.

 

If you need further help let me know.

 

Todd

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Todd:

 

I have read the docs and am apparently doing something wrong. If you would like to provide step by step instructions on entering the above flight plan, I would very much appreciate it.  However, I am through going through the supplied docs.  

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Tom:

 

After considerable trial and error I have discovered something.  The Carenado Phenom 300 wants you to enter the airway routing before the individual waypoints.  I will assume you know how to enter a flight plan and which inner and outer FMS knobs to rotate.

 

1. Position yourself at KTEB airport.

2. Press PROC button.

3. Use the FMS knob and scroll to Select Departure and Press ENT.  The Airport window should now display.

4. Select your Departure and Rwy.  I selected DALTO2 and RWY19. Scroll to Load and press ENT.

5. Now press PROC again and Select Arrival.  Enter in KORF in the keypad.

6. Select an Arrival and Transition if necessary.  I selected the DRONE1 Arrival and the ISO Transition.  Press ENT twice to load the arrival.

7. You now have a direct flight plan from Teterboro to Norfolk.

8. Now you will enter the flight plan.

9. Press FPL. Rotate the outer knob until Arrival – KORF-ISO.DRONE1 is highlighted and flashing.

10. Rotate the FMS inner knob once and you will see LD AIRWAY appear at the bottom right select key.  Select LD AIRWAY.

11. In the Entry field enter WHITE.  Press ENT.  You should see J209 appear in the Airway field.  Now move the cursor to the Exit field and select SBY.

12. Press ENT twice and that airway segment will be loaded into the flight plan.  You will see a new flight plan group labeled Airway - WHITE.SBY.

13. Now move the cursor to Arrival - KORF-ISO.DRONE1.

14. Rotate the FMS inner knob once and then select the LD AIRWAY button.

15. When you select LD AIRWAY this time SBY will already be in the Entry field.  The Airway field will be highlighted and flashing with J209.  You want to change the Airway to V1.

16. Rotate the FMS inner knob until the second V1 is displayed in the Airway field.  The first V1 choice goes northbound from SBY and the second one will go southbound.  If you have done this correctly you will initially see MAGGO in the Exit field.  Rotate the FMS inner knob until CCV is displayed and press ENT twice to load.

17. Now the flight plan airway group will say Airway - WHITE.CCV

18. You will now see MAGGO highlighted in the flight plan.  Now move the cursor up until Airway - WHITE.CCV is highlighted.

19. Now enter in your first two waypoints ELVAE and COL into the flight plan.  Remember to always highlight Airway - WHITE.CCV as this will enter the waypoints before the airway group.

 

You should now have a functional flight plan.  It seems that if it is done any other way you will get the first two waypoints mixed in with the airway routing.

 

So to sum up you have to enter the Departure and Arrival airports first then any optional Airway routing and then insert your individual waypoints.

 

Todd

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Todd,

 

Thanks for taking the time to do the above.  Now, if you're interested in some more trial and error . . .

 

After you enter the flight plan above, if you look at the plan it appears to have added a single airway from WHITE to CCV.  This made me fear that I would have trouble with my current flight. And I did. Try this

 

CYTZ PIKSA Q917 WOZEE DCT SFK03 J220 MICAH KEMV

 

I have been unable to figure out how jump from WOZEE to SFK03.

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It looks like you can only enter one airway group which can include multiple connected airways but multiple disconnected airways don't seem to be possible on the Carenado Phenom 300.

 

I was able to enter either one of your airways in your flight plan separately so you can enter the SFK03 J220 MICAH leg using LD AIRWAYS and then the PIKSA Q917 WOZEE by manually inserting the waypoints above the Airway - SFK03.MICAH entry.  There is only one other waypoint between PIKSA and WOZEE.

 

The airway entry function makes entering a flight plan faster but manually entering the waypoints of an airway works also.

 

BTW my parents hometown was the town where KEMV is located.

 

Todd 

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BTW my parents hometown was the town where KEMV is located.

 

Interesting. For me KEMV was just an airport that I haven't flown to.

 

Again, thanks for taking the time to help.  However, the difficulty of entering a flight plan and the lack of vertical guidance on LPV approaches has led me to the conclusion to go with the GTN mods.  Especially since I already own the Flight 1 GTN.

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You should now have a functional flight plan. It seems that if it is done any other way you will get the first two waypoints mixed in with the airway routing.
So to sum up you have to enter the Departure and Arrival airports first then any optional Airway routing and then insert your individual waypoints.

 

Thanks Todd for the in-depth explanation.  I learned some new things from it.  I have always done it in the reverse from your guidance.  Hit FPL first and enter the departure/arrival airports and then use the PROC to enter the rest.  I will have to try your method on the next flight.  I do know it is good we cannot save a flight plan as then it would be harder to learn how to use the outer and inner knobs.  :smile:

 

Best regards,

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Tom, you'll love the GTN750 in it. I believe with Berts mod you can have the best of both. The Carenado panel and the GTN panel

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Not wanting to high jack this topic but to add my results. As stated earlier in this thread I have the Phenom 300 and the GTN 750 installed. GTN750 is working fine. I have tried just using the G1000, just to get familiar with it as well, but I feel as if I have an unsolvable problem because I have followed both different FFL procedures described above and in each case when going to the PROC page, only Approach is selectable.  The other options are grayed out, plus I can only scroll down to Approach. I assume that tjrush is able to select the other options in PROC, such as, Arrival and Departure.

 

I am wondering if I need to uninstall things.....GTN 750. Carenado Phenom 300, Navigraph Data and start again.

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Dutch,

 

I have been using the GTN all along but for reasons that only my psychiatrist could explain, I wanted to fly the plane with the original equipment. It was an interesting journey that has led me to the conclusion that the Carenado G1000 is not ready for prime time.

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After setting up a flightplan, is it possible to select DTO a particular waypoint? the last time I tried this the entire flightplan disappeared.

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After setting up a flightplan, is it possible to select DTO a particular waypoint? the last time I tried this the entire flightplan disappeared.

 

DTO will erase the flightplan and create a single waypoint.  You need to do the following:

 

1. With a flightplan entered open up the flightplan window by pressing FPL. 

2. Rotate the FMS knob to highlight the waypoint you want to fly direct to and then press the MFD soft key ACT LEG. 

3. You'll get a confirmation window and then press ENT to activate that leg of the flightplan. 

 

I haven't checked to see if the plane will fly to that leg of the flightplan or fly directly to the waypoint but if you look on page 266 of the actual Phenom 300 Prodigy Flight Deck manual you will see that the actual procedure for activating a flight plan leg is the same.

 

Todd

 

Edit: Reviewing the Direct To Navigation chapter starting on page 232 of the real manual I don't see anywhere where it say's if the flightplan is maintained after selecting a DTO waypoint.  So I can't say whether it is correct or not that the flightplan should disappear when selecting a DTO.

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I just purchased the EMB505 and a few hours later got the G1000 Navigraph addon.  Now my autopilot does not work, and the ILS display on the top of the dash does not turn on either.  The latter used to show an "X" during a synchronization process and then started/ran fine.

 

Any suggestions?  I reinstalled the navigraph plugin but it made no difference. 

 

I really like this plane; some very cool and realistic features...

 

Thanks,

Maestaru

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The G1000 Navigraph addon installer works?  Does it really install your product into the Phenom300?  Last time I checked it does not.  It installs your product into C:\Program Files (x86)\Carenado Installer.  You then have to manually move the files to P3D.  It installs okay in FSX but not in P3D.

 

Best regards,

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@Jim: I am using Steam and, yes, both the plane and Navigraph add-on installed without any error messages. I just placed the exe on the desktop and everything seemed to load fine.

 

The Navigraph feature of clicking PROC, then selecting both the departure and destination airports also works excellent. I can even choose approach and runways. When this is done the flight planner provides distance, suggested cruise Alt, and a waypoint track appears on screen.

 

What does not work is the AP does not accept Alt and Nav switches - though VS works - and the unit will not arm/execute in flight. And, of course, the ILS screen is black.

 

Disappointing to get so close ... Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

 

Maestaru.

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Ah, Stream.  I keep thinking everyone is using P3D.  I'm not the expert here on the switches but what I do is set the altitude, take off, and then switch on AP, NAV, and VNAV (VNV).  Nav works but not VNV so I click on VS and select my vertical speed.  When the aircraft gets to altitude, the Alt kicks in and the aircraft levels off.  On the way down, I click on VS again and begin the descent (after setting the alt to a lower altitude).  It descends and levels off at the set altitude.  When I near the approach, I will select APR and the aircraft captures the slope and I land.  Easy....

 

I'm not sure what you are meaning when it does not accept the alt or nav switches.  If you place your cursor over the switches they will tell you whether they are on or not.  They do not light up on the panel as activated.  The nav really works well.  The only thing that does not work is SPD (or I have not gotten it to work).  I like handling the throttle manually anyway.

 

Best regards,

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The ILS screen stays black.  And the ALT, NAV and AP switches do not turn on when pressed.  Hence, no autopilot system--at all.

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