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Advice to P3D V3 setup

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Hello!

 

I was testing X-Plane 10 and uninstalled P3D at all.

 

Now with my new GTX 1070 i want to test P3D again... I have now installed P3D 3.2, REX, and PMDG NGX only.

 

I wonder what settings do you recommend me in game and if i need to use Nvidia Inspector or no...

 

 

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I'd start with the default settings - no NVI. See how it looks and runs - then start cranking up the settings. Should give you a good idea how the 1070 will perform.

 

Vic

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Hello!

 

I was testing X-Plane 10 and uninstalled P3D at all.

 

Now with my new GTX 1070 i want to test P3D again... I have now installed P3D 3.2, REX, and PMDG NGX only.

 

I wonder what settings do you recommend me in game and if i need to use Nvidia Inspector or no...

Jose, please let me know how your testing goes. I am really interested as I have the same processor you are using. OC'd to 4.5

Really interested in the results as I am running a 4 gig 760 and have been thinking about a new Video card. 

 

Bob

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Was testing some different settings and like the results, good FPS, around 40-60 with NGX and AS LEPA, but always have a small sttuters...what hardware are needed to run P3D smooth?

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Interesting result Jose, I run a i7 4790 at 4.4ghz with a gtx970. I get the same FPS with the NGX and 777. I also had stutters. I found the only way to get over these was to run my TV / Monitor at 50hz refresh then set vsync on in p3d unlimited frame rate. I also use nvidia inspector to run SGSS x 4. As long as i keep frames near 50 

i get smooth flight.

 

Oh and i also have Affinity Mask set to 116 for my cpu.

 

I think this shows p3d much like fsx is more dependant on cpu rather than graphics card.

 

So Bob i'd prob say get a 9 series card. Prob going cheaper now the new cards are out and perhaps look at an upgrade to the cpu.

 

Jose check out Rob Ainscough website. He has some great info for settings etc.

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There are many posibilities that i come back to X-Plane again...

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Anyone can help with the small stutters?

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Was testing some different settings and like the results, good FPS, around 40-60 with NGX and AS LEPA, but always have a small sttuters...what hardware are needed to run P3D smooth?

 

Can you post screen shots of your current Prepar3D settings (the settings that cause stutters).  You could have Nasa setting under your yoke and pedals and still have stutters,  Its all fine about tuning things slowly to get a happy balance between visuals and smoothness :smile:  

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Please i need help...have a problem.

 

Was testing enbaling Hyper Threading in the CPU, and now all times i open P3D it doesn't appears. It shows the first loading windows but after anything appears, but P3D task is running if i open tasks admin.

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Please i need help...have a problem.

 

Was testing enbaling Hyper Threading in the CPU, and now all times i open P3D it doesn't appears. It shows the first loading windows but after anything appears, but P3D task is running if i open tasks admin.

 

I had that problem. Was tied to an addon in the dll.xml in the AppData/Roaming/Lockheed Martin/Prepar3D v3 folder. My addon was the OpusPDK, I forgot to add a line;

"<DLLType>PDK</DLLType>". 

 

But it may be different for you. Try to set all to "True" under <Disabled>, see if the game starts, then enable them one by one until you find the culprit. 

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I had that problem. Was tied to an addon in the dll.xml in the AppData/Roaming/Lockheed Martin/Prepar3D v3 folder. My addon was the OpusPDK, I forgot to add a line;

"<DLLType>PDK</DLLType>". 

 

But it may be different for you. Try to set all to "True" under <Disabled>, see if the game starts, then enable them one by one until you find the culprit. 

 

Thanks! Will test. But i does not installed any new addon now.

 

This is my dll.xml:

 

 

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?>

<SimBase.Document Type="Launch" version="1,0">
  <Descr>Launch</Descr>
  <Filename>dll.xml</Filename>
  <Disabled>False</Disabled>
  <Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad>
  <Launch.Addon>
    <Name>PMDG HUD interface</Name>
    <Disabled>False</Disabled>
    <Path>PMDG\DLLs\PMDG_HUD_interface.dll</Path>
    <DllStartName>module_init</DllStartName>
    <DllStopName>module_deinit</DllStopName>
  </Launch.Addon>
  <Launch.Addon>
    <Name>RAASPRO</Name>
    <Disabled>False</Disabled>
    <ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
    <Path>.\RAASPRO\RAASPRO.dll</Path>
    <DllStartName>module_init</DllStartName>
    <DllStopName>module_deinit</DllStopName>
  </Launch.Addon>
  <Launch.Addon>
    <Name>as_connect</Name>
    <Disabled>False</Disabled>
    <Path>as_srv\as_btstrp.dll</Path>
  </Launch.Addon>
</SimBase.Document>

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You know how fidgety the game can be, change one thing, whether it be hardware or a setting and it'll cause a fuss :P Just try setting RAASPro, PMDG Hud and as_connect to disabled, see if the game starts - Worth a shot :)

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Ok, tested! Even with the three in True P3D does not start.

 

Can i delete this file and let's P3D generate a new one?

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No, I don't think it recreates the xml.dll with all your addons, those need to be manually added / added by the installers. So you should keep that one.

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Only other suggestion at the top of my head, would be to move your Prepar3D.cfg somewhere else, let the game recreate it and see if it starts. If not, you can always restore it.

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Only other suggestion at the top of my head, would be to move your Prepar3D.cfg somewhere else, let the game recreate it and see if it starts. If not, you can always restore it.

 

That was the solution! Now runs.

 

But if i add Affinity Mask to cfg it does not start...strange

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That was the solution! Now runs.

 

But if i add Affinity Mask to cfg it does not start...strange

 

Personally not a fan of AMs, I run without anything but maybe you need to re-calculate your AM, seeing as how you enabled HT?

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Personally not a fan of AMs, I run without anything but maybe you need to re-calculate your AM, seeing as how you enabled HT?

 

Yes enabled HT and was putting AM 85.

 

I ran without anything also but i don't achieve smooth sim

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Ok now i am in this setup but can't achieve the smooth sim in AS LEPA and NGX for example.

 

2600k @ 4,6Ghz with HT Off

 

1024 32bit REX Clouds

 

Adaptive 1/2 Vsync in Nvidia Control Panel

 

My cfg:

 

[GRAPHICS]

HDR_BRIGHTNESS=0.900000
HDR_BLOOM_THRESHOLD=3.000000
HDR_BLOOM_MAGNITUDE=0.900000
HDR_BLOOM_BLUR_SIGMA=0.800000
TONEMAP_DAY_EXPOSURE_KEY=0.280000
TONEMAP_NIGHT_EXPOSURE_KEY=0.130000
HDR_SATURATION=0.800000
MIPMAP_VC_PANELS=1
TESSELLATION=1
TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=2048
NUM_LIGHTS=4
COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1
AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1
LANDING_LIGHTS=1
DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1
LENSFLARE=1
HDR=1
DYNAMIC_REFLECTIONS=0
SHADOW_QUALITY=2
TERRAIN_SHADOW_CAST_DISTANCE=0
CLOUD_SHADOW_CAST_DISTANCE=2
OBJECT_SHADOW_CAST_DISTANCE=2
CONTENT_NO_SHADOW=0
INTERIOR_SHADOWS_CAST=1
EXTERIOR_SHADOWS_CAST=1
SIMOBJECT_SHADOWS_CAST=0
TERRAIN_SHADOWS_CAST=0
VEGETATION_SHADOWS_CAST=0
BUILDING_SHADOWS_CAST=0
CLOUD_SHADOWS_CAST=1
INTERIOR_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1
EXTERIOR_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1
SIMOBJECT_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
TERRAIN_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1
VEGETATION_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
BUILDING_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_LOW=4
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_MID=5
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_HIGH=7
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_ULTRA=12
GROUND_SHADOW_TEXTURE_SIZE=2048
CLOUD_SHADOW_TEXTURE_SIZE=512
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_LOW=0.850000
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_MID=0.850000
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_HIGH=0.850000
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_ULTRA=0.850000
EFFECTS_QUALITY=1
EFFECTS_DISTANCE=1
TEXTURE_QUALITY=3
IMAGE_QUALITY=0
See_Self=1
Text_Scroll=1
[WEATHER]
CLOUD_FACING_MODE=0
WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1
MinGustTime=10
MaxGustTime=500
MinGustRampSpeed=1
MaxGustRampSpeed=200
MinVarTime=5
MaxVarTime=50
MinVarRampSpeed=10
MaxVarRampSpeed=75
TurbulenceScale=1.000000
WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0
AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1
DynamicWeather=2
DownloadWindsAloft=0
DisableTurbulence=0
CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=6
DETAILED_CLOUDS=1
OPTIMIZE_DENSE_CLOUDS=0
CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=8
THERMAL_VISUALS=0
VolumetricFog=1
[DISPLAY]
ChangeTime=4.000000
TransitionTime=4.000000
TEXTURE_FILTERING=16
MSAA=4
SSAA=0
VSYNC=0
FXAA=0
TRIPLE_BUFFER=0
SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1
TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=30
UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=0
WideViewAspect=False
FullScreenBackground=True
FullScreenAutoFill=True
ActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
ActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=0,28,140,64
NonActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
NonActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=24,33,87,64
InfoUpperLeftTextColorUser=255,0,0
InfoUpperLeftTextColorNonUser=255,127,0
InfoUpperLeftBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0
InfoUpperRightTextColor=255,0,0
InfoUpperRightBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0
InfoLowerLeftTextColor=255,255,255
InfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255
InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoBrakesEnable=True
InfoParkingBrakesEnable=True
InfoPauseEnable=True
InfoSlewEnable=True
InfoStallEnable=True
InfoOverspeedEnable=True
InfoWeaponSystemEnable=True
InfoCountermeasureEnable=True
InfoUpperRightTextEnable=True
Fullscreen=True
[sCENERY]
MaxRegionsPurgePerFrame=16
POP_FREE_AUTOGEN=1
AUTOGEN_BATCH_LOD=2
AUTOGEN_TREE_MAX_DRAW_DISTANCE=9500.000000
AUTOGEN_TREE_MIN_DISTANCE_TO_LOD=2500.000000
IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=4
[MAIN]
User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter, Submersible, ExternalSim, Avatar
LabelsSupported=Airplane, Helicopter
Location=440,129,1480,908,\\.\DISPLAY1
ShowInfoText=1
Maximized=1
LocationFullScreen=0,0,1920,1080,\\.\DISPLAY1
HideMenuNormal=0
HideMenuFullscreen=1
[PANELS]
IMAGE_QUALITY=1
SAVE_AND_LOAD_PANEL_STATE=0
PANEL_OPACITY=100
QUICKTIPS=0
PANEL_MASKING=1
PANEL_STRETCHING=1
UNITS_OF_MEASURE=1
[CONTROLS]
Controls_Default=Standard
Controls_Current=Standard
KBDAIL=64
KBDELEV=64
KBDRUD=64
[TextInfo.1]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
[TextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
LockedFrameRate=1,2
GForce=1,3
FuelPercentage=1,4
[TextInfo.3]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
FrameRate=2,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
GForce=2,3
FuelPercentage=2,4
[slewTextInfo.1]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
[slewTextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
LockedFrameRate=1,2
[slewTextInfo.3]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
FrameRate=2,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
[Avatar]
DefaultAvatar=Airline Pilot Male with High Viz Jacket
[DynamicHeadMovement]
LonAccelOnHeadLon=-0.020000
LonAccelOnHeadPitch=-0.010000
RollAccelOnHeadLat=0.010000
YawAccelOnHeadLat=-0.100000
RollAccelOnHeadRoll=0.100000
MaxHeadAngle=5.000000
MaxHeadOffset=0.300000
HeadMoveTimeConstant=1.000000
[VirtualCopilot]
VirtualCopilotActive=0
[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070.0.0]
Mode=1920x1080x32
[uSERINTERFACE]
SHOW_SCENARIO_WINDOW=1
PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=0
PROMPT_ON_EXIT=1
RestoreTimeOnMove=1
SHOW_MISSION_CAPTIONS=1
Map_Orientation=2
[MOUSE]
EnableGestures=False
[TrafficManager]
AirlineDensity=0
GADensity=0
FreewayDensity=0
ShipsAndFerriesDensity=0
LeisureBoatsDensity=0
IFROnly=0
AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=0
[AContain]
ShowLabels=1
ShowUserLabel=0
ShowLabelManufacturer=1
ShowLabelModel=1
ShowLabelTailNumber=0
ShowLabelDistance=1
ShowLabelAltitude=1
ShowLabelAirline=0
ShowLabelAirlineAndFlightNumber=0
ShowLabelFlightPlan=0
ShowLabelContainerId=0
ShowLabelAirspeed=0
ShowLabelHeading=0
LabelDelay=1000
LabelColor=FFFF0000
[TERRAIN]
LOD_RADIUS=4.500000
TESSELLATION_FACTOR=85
MESH_RESOLUTION=23
TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=28
AUTOGEN_VEGETATION_DENSITY=3
AUTOGEN_BUILDING_DENSITY=3
DETAIL_TEXTURE=1
WATER_REFLECT_CLOUDS=1
WATER_REFLECT_USERAIRCRAFT=1
WATER_REFLECT_SIMOBJECTS=0
WATER_REFLECT_TERRAIN=0
WATER_REFLECT_AUTOGEN_VEGETATION=0
WATER_REFLECT_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS=0
WATER_REFRACT_CLOUDS=0
WATER_REFRACT_USERAIRCRAFT=0
WATER_REFRACT_SIMOBJECTS=0
WATER_REFRACT_TERRAIN=0
WATER_REFRACT_AUTOGEN_VEGETATION=0
WATER_REFRACT_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS=0
ENABLE_BATHYMETRY=0
WATER_CLARITY=30
WATER_DETAIL=2
UseGlobalTerrainView=False
[ATC]
AutoOpenAirTrafficWindow=1
UsePilotVoice=1
ShowATCText=1
PilotVoice=0
COMM_MSG_AI_ATC_COLOR=0XFF8C00
COMM_MSG_ATC_AI_COLOR=0X00008B
COMM_MSG_ATC_USER_COLOR=0X006400
COMM_MSG_USER_ATC_COLOR=0XA52A2A
COMM_MSG_ATIS_COLOR=00000000
[iNTERNATIONAL]
ASLAT=2
ASLON=0
MEASURE=2
[REALISM]
PFactor=1.000000
Torque=1.000000
GyroEffect=1.000000
CrashTolerance=1.000000
General=1.000000
UnlimitedFuel=False
AllowEngineDamage=True
TrueAirspeed=False
AutoCoord=False
RealMixture=True
StressDamage=True
GEffect=True
ManualLights=True
GyroDrift=False
CrashWithDyn=True
CrashDetection=True
OnCrashAction=0
[ATTACHMENTS]
WeaponHighlight=False
HighlightDuration=1.000000
AutoWeaponSwitching=False
UnlimitedWeapons=False
UnlimitedCountermeasures=False
IgnoreAttachmentWeight=True
IgnoreAttachmentForces=True
[RECORDER]
RecordAITraffic=True
RecordAirportVehicles=True
RecordLeisureBoats=True
[sIM]
SYSCLOCK=0
OPTIMIZE_PARTS=1
[sOUND]
SOUND=1
SOUND_QUALITY=2
SOUND_LOD=0
PrimaryPlaybackDevice={DEF00000-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
VoicePlaybackDevice={DEF00002-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
VoiceCaptureDevice={DEF00003-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
[sTARTUP]
DEMO=0
STARTUP_DEMO=
LOAD_SCENARIO_TOOLS=1
LoadCorePlugins=1
LoadWindow=1
[PointOfInterestSystem]
CycleSetting=0
[FACILITIES]
COUNTRY=
STATE=
CITY=
GTL_BUTTON=4096
[MISC]
Com_Rate=7
[MULTICHANNEL]
condAccountPassword=0
[MULTIPLAYER]
condAccountPassword=0
FrameSyncRate=0
 

 

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I just used the game's own FPS lock, didn't touch the config at all, my game is really smooth. Try adding a 30FPS internal lock to the FPS as well -- Or whatever you are aiming for?

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Adaptive 1/2 Vsync does not function with p3d. You either need a monitor that has  30hz refresh then set vsync to on in p3d. Then maintain 30fps. Or if you have a 60hz monitor you have to maintain 60fps. Frame rate in P3d unlimited.

 

For ur cpu im not sure what AM you need. 85 or 116 i was using for my i7 4790k.

 

There is a whole thread dedicated to AM settings. Have a search and you should find it.

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I have tried 30 locked in game but also no smooth. My monitor is 60hz

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Testing contunues...

 

Do a driver clean with DDU.

 

Testing with default scenery and aircraft and with 100-140 FPS, i don't have the smooth sensation i want... 

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Sounds like you have other issues with your setup.

 

Try adding some pre-rendered frames with Nvidia Profile Inspector, under the P3D profile, in the "Maximum pre-rendered frames". Not sure if it even works with P3D but it's worth a shot. 3 should do it?

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