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Hello everyone,

 

I am trying to find what has happened to my beloved FS2004

 

I have just completed a full and fresh install of FS2004 and attempted to load My Traffic 2010 and was promptly advised that it could not find my directory.  So I manually pointed to D/FS2004 and again I was told it could not find the FS2004 directory.  I renamed it and tried to reinstall again with the same results.  I have never had this problem before so I thought it may be a faulty FS2004 installation.  So ,,,, uninstall, and reinstall FS2004.  Tried to load the My Traffic again with the same results.  I then went into my fs2004 directory and all looked normal so I am at the ???? stage.  Tried to reinstall again and this time went through the D/Fs2004 and discovered that I was only able to see the folders and the FS9.1 exe file etc were not visible,  Aha, I thought ... but what to do next to make it all happen.

 

Has anyone else had this happen? I think it may well be a windows 7 problem but other than that I do not have a clue.

 

Just for info, I loaded (after this disaster) the Ifly737 3.2.2 and that went smoothly. Followed up with the latest AIRAC update and it suffered the same problem. Why do some work but others don.t 

 

Any way if anybody can help me out here i would really appreciate the assistance

 

Tony Chilcott

 

 

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What is D/FS2004? A partition or an external drive? Is there a MYT entry in your scenery.cfg?

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Hello guys and thanks for your responses.

 

A32xx  .... Flight1 registry fixer is my first "go to tool"  and yes, I have run that.

 

I have a 256gb SSD partitioned for c/windows etc  and D/FS2004 is my flightsim folder on the d drive,  I have not yet looked at my scenery config folder. but I figure that if MYT is not installed there would not be an entry to that effect.  I will however, check it out and advise.

 

I have looked at the FS2004 folder and it has all the right folders ie addon scenery, aircraft etc and after the last folder there are all the BMP, WAV, Application, config and other files that normally reside there.

 

During the install attempt though when I get the message "cannot find FS2004" I am given the option to find it manually. and in the screen provided I have to click through Computer ... Drive ..... folders .... FS2004 ....  After clicking on all of those I am in the FS2004 folder and there are all the folders  but none of the other aforementioned files and MYT just keeps telling me that it cannot find FS2004 (I am assuming here that it is referring to the .exe file)  It is correct too because I cannot find it either but only in that install window.  It all exists if I get out and get into the d drive and FS2004 folder.

 

I hope the above has clarified the situation for you all .... if you are confused, hornswoggled and/or befuddled, can you imagine how I feel LOL.

 

Still hoping guys and thank you again.

 

Regards

 

Tony Chilcott

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Hello All,

 

I have another development.  

 

I just tried to run Flight 1 registry fixer and now even that cannot find the exe file either.  Again in that process, it only shows the folders and not all the other files as mentioned before.

 

This is the same through 3 complete reinstalls.

 

Can ANYBODY help Please

 

Regards

 

Tony

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Hi Tony, sorry to ask silly questions but have you set Windows 7 to Show Hidden Files and are you right-clicking and selecting Run As Administrator when running your installers and registry fixer? Do you have only one instance of FS2004 installed with no other back-up copies?

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Check your folder settings in widows and make sure you have "show hidden files" selected.

 

Also right click your FS9.exe and make sure that is not "hidden" or "read only"

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At least I would install a basic FS9 on C: drive as C:/Flight Simulator 9 and not as FS2004. Also you should backup FS9.cfg before running the new installation. BTW, FS9.exe isn't considered as hidden file.

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Hello all,

 

Firstly let me thank you all for your responses.

 

A32xx    I am definitely showing hidden files.

              I discovered recently that if you right click on the .exe file you can tick a box "run as administrator" and have                       been doing this religiously on all installed programmes ever since.

              I have a back up copy but this is on drive e

 

Pschlute   Checked Hidden files and all ok

                 Also checked FS9.exe

 

Goldenrocket   I have been running FS9 in the same fashion ie Drive d in folders variously named FS9, FSVIIII, FSVIIII.1                         and FS2004 for many, many years now. I have never had any problems prior to this recent abberation                               and I do not have a clue where it is coming from.  It just does not make any sense to me and the fact that                         I was able to run the registry fixer until this morning (it did not fix the problem but it did run) also baffles                             me.

 

I simply do not know where to go to from here.  Three clean installs all produce the same results which sort of indicates to me that it won't be a corrupt install, and the fact is that we are all sort of going down the same resolution paths.

 

Any further ideas

 

Regards

 

Tony Chilcott 

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Hi Tony, when you re-install FS9 do you run it once, close it and then update it to FS9.1?

Other than that, I can only of an Antivirus/Internet Security update which now sees FS9.exe as a virus, or the Microsoft KB update which requires the  :Shame On You: patch.

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A32xx

 

Hello again mate,

 

I have now developed another unrelated problem so I will uninstall again and reinstall. I have to admit that I have never  done the install ... run it .... and then install the update.  Again never had this problem before but I am very happy to try it this time.  I have the Avira "free" antivirus and run UAC at the highest level ... however, this is always turned off for all installations.  With all my FS2004 installs my first action after installing the programme and update is to reboot, run DXT3fixer before starting any downloaded add-on installs.  These add-ons are always scanned manually by Avira  run as administrator and then DXT3fixer before moving on to the next add-on. A laborious process but over the years, I know which programmes cause problems and these are installed first (in case another uninstall/reinstall is required)  I have had MYT 2010 for a few years now and I have never had a problem with this install. Same thing applies to Airac and yesterday to the Feelthere Legacy.

 

Anyway, I will try this latest approach and report back,  

 

By the way, I have a DVD installation disc and the original 4 cd installation discs.  The problem exists with both versions of the installation.  It is very weird and again points to NOT being a corrupt installation.

 

Thanks again for your input

 

Regards

 

Tony

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Maybe I've been lucky :-)

I have 3x versions of FS2004, & I just decided to do a separate install just for the Ford Tri-Motor Project stuff, so I ran a new install into my C;\ drive, as c:\ Flight Simulation 9. After it installed, it automatically started. I killed it, then immediatly ran the update.

I'm running as Admin, with my UAC always turned off (right down). All UAC does, in my opinion, is just nag! I never have it on. My anti-malware & anti-virus (Avast free) do my protecting for me. & I'm running Windows 10, after upgrading from Windows 7.

All this on an i5 4GB ram laptop, with no issues at all. I even have an old version (1.4) of P3D. My laptop only has a DX9 graphics card inside, so newer versions of P3D will not run.

Oh, I also have Combat Flight Sim 2 as well as the latest version of FlightGear. My laptop has not 'fallen over' yet, in spite of all my add-ons! :Applause:​

 

My other installs have been a copy/paste off my backup protable drive, then using the registry tool to fix it.

I'm yet to try use the DXT3 tool.

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I think if you follow this order you should not have any problems.

 

1. Turn off UAC

2. Install FS to something you have not used before eg instead of D: FS2004 make it D: Flight Simulator

3. Install FS

4. Install FS 9.1 patch

5. Install NOCD

6. Run FS

7. Install your other addons

 

From here do what you want.

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Skywatcher... perfectly described

 

Thanks Wobbie. I find you mess with stuff during an installation it will only likely create problems. As with anything, just do the basics, get it all running in a standard fashion, then you can generally easily narrow down any issues that arise further on down the track.

 

Regarding anti virus, best to prescan files before installation and turn it off during installation. If you know your anti virus is reliable and will inform you when it intends to delete files you can leave it on. Problem is, some anti virus software just deletes stuff with no feedback and the first you know about it is when a program doesn't work. Run as Admin also shouldn't be required to run anything or during the installation process, at least on Win 7.

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My ant-virus doess it all for me. I do not prescan anything, & never switch it off. Avast (free) always tells me whats happening.

I sett my fs9.exe to run as admin & just left it like that.

So far, the only installation problem I have ever had on Windows 10 is with the Team FS KBT P-3C Orion, where I had to run the installer with Windows XP compatibility.

As you say, basic is better.. Also.. ALWAYS install into a temp directory first, so you can see the readme's & what is in the zip. Then copy & paste into your sim. This way, if there is a problem, you know what caused it.

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Hello again,

 

In the words of the immortal Sean Dillon (jack Higgens) "God bless all here"

 

Well, I have followed Skywatchers advice to the letter.

1. Uninstalled everything FS2004 related in Control Panel

2. Hey ..after the uninstall, I found in D drive in the FS9 folder the complete fs9folders/files/everything ... obviously not         uninstalled. I then manually deleted all in that folder and then deleted the fs folder itself in D drive.  

 3. Went to appdata/roaming/microsoft/fs9 (still there and again, obviously not uninstalled) and noted a lot of duplications... deleted everything in that folder.

4. Rebooted

 

Checked (a) drive d ... No fs9 folder

                (b) Drive c ... appdata ...roaming...microsoft...... no FS9 folder

Reinstalled FS2004

I noted this time that I could not open FS9 using the FS9 desktop icon.

5. I then deleted the fs9 application .... updated to fs9.1 .... deleted the fs9.1 application and installed the FS9.1 no key. .... created a desktop icon and copied it to the desktop.

Clicking on the desktop icon opened the simulator normally.

6. I then tried to install the latest AIRAC .... cannot find FS9...manual direct ... can only find FS9 folders,,,no fs9.1 exe showing  Cancelled install

7. Tried to install My Traffic 2010 ... Same result as 6.

8 Tried to install Feelthere Legacy aircraft. ... same as 6 and 7

FS2004 opens and runs normally but I cannot install as above

 

As I have a dual win7/win10 system I repeated all of the above on win10 with exactly the same results

 

This laborious process explains the tardy response to all of you.

 

At this time, I remain completely perplexed, befuddled and confused, not to mention frustrated and lost.

 

Where to from here ... I have tried the registry fixer....  1 click maintenance ... cc registry fixer and lots of alcohol LOL. Nothing is working Alcohol being the best non performing remedy LOL

 

Somebody must know why I can see all the relevant files in the directory but the addons can only see the folders.

 

Any help appreciated

 

Tony

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Are you sure you followed everything and in the correct order? Particularly turning off UAC and creating a FS folder with a different name? No doing extra things I didn't list either. It's fine going in and uninstalling all the bits and pieces of a previous installation you can find but then you MUST follow the instructions precisely. If you don't, there are a number of variables that could occur by missing any of the steps and makes troubleshooting your problems very difficult if not impossible from this end.

 

After step 6 you should have a good FS installation that will open from the FS9.exe in your FS folder. Don't try and use the FS icon on the desktop for testing purposes. If at this point there are problems, no need to go any further as the problems need to be fixed. If it all works well, means FS is good and the problems clearly arise elsewhere causing everything to go bad and may be caused by just one particular addon.

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Skywatcher

 

Thanks for your reply mate.

 

I religiously followed your advice, noting that I was unable to open FS9 after the initial re-install..   I proceeded in accordance with your directions though and was able to open after the fs9.1 update, and again, after the NoCD install. Please note that on SSD drive D, I created a New Folder (I did not rename it) and that is where the fs9 programme was installed into.

 

Maybe that is where the problem lies but I am strongly beginning to suspect a windows problem rather than an install problem.  My problem then, lies in trying to solve the Windows problem as I have no idea about how to do that.  The only thing that points away from windows is that I get exactly the same results from Win10 and Win 7 ... both 64bit.

 

Can anyone tell me if this may be the right path to pursue?

 

Other than not being able to install the programmes listed, FS9.1 is running beautifully and given my problems with Xplane10, FSX-SE and P3D, I am  loathe to leave FS9 for the time being.

 

I just do not understand as I find no logic in this at all.  If I can see the fs9.exe in the directory, why can't the add-on find it through the install procedure?

 

That, in a nutshell, is what the problem is.

 

Regards again to all

 

Tony

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Tony,

 

It was important to follow the instructions precisely. There could possibly be some Windows screw up of some description so you need to try and take all those possibilities out of the equation. That's why I said to give the folder for the new install a completely new/different name. It would be a new place, nothing will be pointing to the new folder, no registry entries etc because it did not exist in previous installations. By creating a new folder with a different name it takes out a number of possible variables. By deleting the folder as you have done but giving it the same name again you are back to square one.

 

Need to just do one step at a time, standard install as I listed, make sure FS is functioning perfectly and then go on from there. Don't even launch it prior to the patch and nocd being applied, follow the instructions precisely. You should then hopefully have a fully working FS standard install after step 6. The next thing to see is what happens when you try to install an addon. If the standard install all works well an addon should find your FS installation. If it doesn't, then you start looking at the Windows side of things.

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For my three-pennyworth it sounds to me as if you still have registry entries pointing to the wrong place. If your current install is not in the same location that it has been previously, this is a possibility. A lot of software doesn't remove registry entries when uninstalled.

 

  1. Flight Simulator itself will run fine with incorrect registry entries but it will confuse add-ons which use the registry to know where FS is. There is a Flight 1 repair tool for this which I think has already been mentioned.
  2. The other registry possibility is that the add-on you are trying to install has itself previously placed an entry in the registry which is now telling the install software that FS is somewhere else. If it is just "MyTraffic" affected this is a possibility (if it is many add-ons I lean towards 1 above). For this, I would look through the registry editor for every entry with "MyTraffic" in it and deleting (being careful that you don't accidentally delete entries with that word in them that are for other things such as "Pullmytrafficofftheroad"!).

To me a completely clean re-install includes clearing out every reference to FS9 and FS2004 in the regisrty which I can say, from personal experience, avoids issue 1 above. I would not recommend doing this at this stage though, as you have your installation working. Try running the Flight 1 tool again.

 

You said in an early post that MyTraffic allowed you to manually select the directory to install to - this often allows you to type in the destination as well as select it, that may be worth a try. Some installers don't require you to see anything other than the directory structure and deliberately do not show files so maybe it is working as intended after all. As I don't have this product I can't really say, but I would certainly try showing only the directory location and see if it will install with that.

 

If the issue is specific to MyTraffic you might wish to ask here:
http://forum.simflight.com/forum/7-mytraffic-support-forum/

Somebody asked a similar question there concerning FSXSE recently, although they resolved it before an answer could be given. It sounds as if support responses can be slow coming there but they do come, so I would say that is a good place to ask. Maybe look through earlier threads first as I have done nothing other than glance at the top page.

 

John

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Everyone,

 

Thank you all  so very much for your help and suggestions.

 

I am off to OZ tomorrow and heaps to do before I go which necessitates a lengthy pause on this problem as I am going to be seriously separated from my computer.

 

If after following all the advice here, I have still not solved the problem I will start a new post.

 

Again I very much appreciate all your input

 

Regards

 

Tony Chilcott

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