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New Lionheart Trinidad TB21 Lionheart cockpit windows

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Hello Steve,

 

I bought this new plane released yesterday and noticed that all windows are showing very ugly and distracting reflections. When contacted, Lionheart indicated that this was related to DX10. Switching off DX10, the canopy becomes fully transparent (invisible). I tried to apply the Legacy reflections off but had no result. Would you have any recommendation please? (Presumably I won't be the only one looking for a solution to this).

 

Thank you and best regards,

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Can you try the 8bit fix please and report back. DO NOT leave it set on as it breaks things

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Thank you Steve. Unfortunately the 8 bit fix did not change anything, I still have those strong and disturbing reflections on the windshield and windows that I never had on any other airplane add-on (and I have a number of them...) 

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If you uninstall the fixer libraries ( just as a test - reinstall them afterwards) how does it appear then?

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It does state "not DX10 compatible" on Lionhearts website 0therwise I would have purchased this myself..Shame really

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Thank you Steve. Unfortunately the 8 bit fix did not change anything, I still have those strong and disturbing reflections on the windshield and windows that I never had on any other airplane add-on (and I have a number of them...) 

 

OT.but could you please post some screenshots of the plane ? I would be interested in the VC. I've seen the pictures on the lionheart   web page already but they all look too good when you go to the dev's site.Thx

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Thanks for the follow-up Steve, sorry I will be away from my sim for a week or so, I already left, but I shall pursue this matter immediately after I get back. I wish I knew how to make a screenshot to show the problem better. 

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Another Trinidad purchaser, in spite of Bill's disclaimer about DX10.  He was correct.  Switching to DX9 eliminates the glass distortion but, in a screenshot, the jaggies are impressive.  This was an FS9 model but Bill says it's a complete rebuild.  Interestingly, none of his FSX original planes have a problem with DX10.  Completely OT but has anyone found a 'manifold pressure' gauge?

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This was an FS9 model but Bill says it's a complete rebuild

 

so is this plane a fs9  model ?

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OT.but could you please post some screenshots of the plane ? I would be interested in the VC. I've seen the pictures on the lionheart   web page already but they all look too good when you go to the dev's site.Thx

The VC is as advertised except for nothing indicating manifold pressure.  The FS2004 version had the correct gauge.  The closeup clarity is excellent and it all works and no, this is for FSX/FSX Steam/the various P3D's.

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If the developer wants to send me a copy then I will look into why it doesn't work.

 

If it's an fsx model (I cannot tell hence my suggestion above to uninstall the fixer libraries to see if it appears untextured) then I would guess it's using a blend state that the fsx dx10 engine doesn't support

 

E,g although a different issue I looked at a Grumman duck fsx model which had a (different) issue here

 

http://www.avsim.com/topic/465842-question-for-steve-about-window-glass/?hl+%

 

 

I would guess that as a quick workaround inverting the glass alpha setting might help matters

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I've been informed that a 'manifold pressure' gauge will be part of a forthcoming update.

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Back to my sim and on topic. As you suggested I uninstalled the DX10 Fixer libraries and had no result, the reflections are still there. I dont know if the developer has been in touch with you, I hope this can be resolved.

 

With thanks and best regards. 

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Interestingly, none of his FSX original planes have a problem with DX10

 

 The Learjet also suffers from bad window reflections in DX10 and that was originally an FSX only product.

Looks great in P3D v3 though.

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Thanks Steve, I shall check that on Saturday when I am back, however you are talking of sun visors, I was referring to the windshield and lateral windows with all those disturbing and ugly black strikes, is that also what you mean?

Thank you for your follow-up and purchase of the TB21 (Lionheart owe you one...)

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Just for information, in P3Dv3.2 the reflections are also an issue.

Cheers, Ed

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OK Steve, I will see if I am able to make screenshots of my DX9 cockpit (no reflection at all) and DX10 (with all those black lines on all windows) so that you can see what I have, it's definitely DX10 related, I agree that it does not prevent from flying the plane, but it can be distracting and does not look too nice either. If you dont have the same, that means it might be a problem on my end, I use a GTX680, I will also check the latest drivers and play with the NI settings. There's got to be a better compromise.  I'll report back.

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The reason for my confusion is that two of these aircraft have been released (lion heart and just flight) and people have been contacting me about both. The sun visor issue is in the just flight aircraft which is the one that I purchased...

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Hi Steve

 

This thread is actually about Lionheart's TB21, which has a similar issue with window reflections as Just Flight's TBs, but even stronger. Any help for this particular aircraft would be highly appreciated.

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Bill let me have  a copy of the aircraft.  I shall report back...

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Ok, I have a simple workaround...

 

WARNING If you aren't confident copying and renaming files don't try this.

 

The instructions are

 

In the directory <fsx dir>\SimObjects\Airplanes\LHC_Trinidad_TB21GT\texture

 

1)  rename the texture GlobalEnv_AC_Plexi.dds  to something else e.g.  xGlobalEnv_AC_Plexi.dds

 

In the directory <fsx_dir>\Texture

 

2)  create a copy of the texture GlobalEnv_AC_Chrome.dds

 

3) rename that copy to be called GlobalEnv_AC_Plexi.dds  

 

DO NOT rename the original!!!

 

There is some problem with the DX10 engine and the  version of the texture shipped with the aircraft that I don't fully understand. 

I think that DX10 is falling back to the bkg.bmp texture in some way.

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Many thanks Steve. I shall try this tomorrow afternoon and shall report back. Again thanks for your excellent support (and product...)!

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Brilliant Steve! problem solved thanks to your solution!!!

 

Having flown myself hundreds of hours on that (real) plane in Asia - almost thirty years ago - I was very frustrated not to be able enjoying it in the simulated world and made it known kindly  to LionHeart with no reply...

 

Once again, heartfelt thanks for your research and findings.

 

Kind regards,

 

 


 

 

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