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Ive been thinking about getting this plane for sometime but considering its age and a update Ive been hearing about for over a year, would like some feedback. At $30 its not in my whats there to lose category but up there in price with the latest greatest releases.VC graphics,gauge fluidity,problems running under fs9 ect.Also can you fly the plane from vc? Pop ups in vc? Thanks ahead of time

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I bought the Tweet a couple of years ago and it has held a place as one of my favorite aircraft to fly. One of the best IFR training platforms for FS2002/2004 IMHO. I say this because of the excellent flight dynamics, the way the gauges look in the 2d as well as VC panel including the way they move and best of all the way it responds to your input.Now about a year ago I got involved with the beta for the next Tweet which has totally fluid VC gauge movement. It was moving along nicely till half the development team got deployed. Understand I am not part of the development team itself, just a beta tester. I have been working hard to help get this free upgrade finished up and released before the holidays. The VC night lighting seems to be the last hurdle and we are making fantastic progress in that area.You do realize that this is a Flight1 wrapper product don't you? That means that if you are not completely satisfied you can return it within 30 days. That should be plenty of time to test it out on your system and see how you like it. The wrapper gets you version 1.02 and I would recommend that you do update to version 1.03 which is available for separate download on their website.Hope you find it as enjoyable as I have and when we finally get the upgrade out it will blow a lot of people away.Have fun flyin'Zane

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Thanks for the reply. Just wondering how well the plane has aged. The vc pics look really dated but you cannot always go by a picture. Most info I have found and opinions are really old which has me a little nervous. Earlier in life I spent a good deal of time with the tweet and have 15% hearing loss in one ear to prove it.

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The version of the T-37 that's currently available for purchase was a winner when it was first released a couple of years ago, and it still is. The update makes it even better.In the currently available version... Fluidity of gauges in the VC is comparable to MSFS default. VC graphics are photorealistic and acceptable. You can fly from the VC, but you have to use the 2d panel to start engines, etc. No problems running under FS9.In the updated version due out shortly... Fluidity of the gauges is state of the art. VC graphics are photorealistic and gorgeous. You can do everything from the VC, and all switches are clickable. Still no problems running under FS9. :)Some other things that make it special... The documentation is really, really good, the airplane flies to the real world numbers, and the aircraft systems are modeled so well that real world Air Force pilots going through UPT use the sim for practice. There are a lot of training jets modeled for MSFS, both payware and freeware, but the T-37 is in a class of its own.As for your hearing... two really good sound sets are included, and if you're not careful you'll lose some hearing in the other ear. :)

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Hello JIMJAMI have the T37 and it well worth buying, a flight sim classic this one.I am waiting for the update which will make this even better.The VC is very well done with superb gauges and the documentation is the best around.

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Too late cause my other ear has around 10% loss or so they say. Thanks, Im seriously considering getting it.

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Ok I bought the tweet. Question Did the install program make a additional FS9.cfg that is used for the tweet or did it rebuild a new one?All my previous settings were wiped out and I had to reset everything along with my saitek x45.I run alot of other programs,ASV,BEV,UT ect and wondering if it did delete the original cfg file if its going to effect those programs?BTW-Looks better than I expected but I still have not been able to map my j stick button to get the speed brake to work.

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Hi Guys,For an old retired Army Aviator who never flew the Tweet, but gets to listen to it as it flies over my house on a daily basis into HPAAF (FSI) out of Sheppard AFB, I would llike nothing more than to get this aircraft and try flying it. Anyone care to do me a favor and post a link??Thanks,Paul EDIT: After 20 years of flying Army helicopters, from the H-13 up to and including the CH-47 with the Huey/Cobra series thrown in for good measure, I am deaf as a post--or so my wife tells me. :-lol

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>Understand I am not part of the development team>itself, just a beta tester. I have been working hard to help>get this free upgrade finished up and released before the>holidays. The VC night lighting seems to be the last hurdle>and we are making fantastic progress in that area.If they need any help with the VC lighting, I do know a thing or two on the subject... ;)

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>Too late cause my other ear has around 10% loss or so they>say. Thanks, Im seriously considering getting it.You also need to put a nice stiff section of a 2x6 board across your chair to sit on while flying it. And when flying it in the summer, turn all the air conditioning off in the room and sit in the direct sun. Ah, the memories...CheersBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300Santiago de Chile

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Hi Jimjam,As I recall, it makes an additional file called T37.cfg, but leaves your original fs9.cfg file intact. If you're going to fly the T-37, you start up FS with the T37 file to enable its special features. ASV, BEV, and UT should be unaffected. They'll work just as before whether you start up FS9 conventionally or via the T37 startup file.As for the speed brake, the manual will tell you to map your joystick to the Backup Vacuum Pump, not the default spoiler. Have fun with it!

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Thanks for the help. I finally dug through the VERY in depth manual and figured it out. You know the deal gotta new toy and want to play first. Man that woman and those alarms!!! Didnt know I was that sloppy.Only have a few hops but my overall impression is good. Seems like a great learning tool or for those procedure fanatics yet easy just to hop in and go.

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My clouds,sun and horizon all appear to be low rez. Im running Active sky and use Flight enviroments dxt3 clouds.I reloaded the clouds a few times,loaded the 512 textures and double checked all my graphics settings. Everything else appears ok.Also , how do you get rid of that annoying warning when you pull your power back to idle?First xcounrty with it from Vandenberg to Nellis enroute. Fun

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Hi Bill,I already told Jamal to contact you... he said he's met you before. I'll remind him about our earlier discussion cause yes, I know you know quite a bit about lighting effects.Best wishes,Zane

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Hi Jimjam,Good to hear you've got the Tweet now. Yes, as already stated the T-37 does create a new separate cfg unique to its operation. It will not change any of your normal FS9 settings you already had programmed for flying your other aircraft but it is advisable to fly the Tweet from its own icon. You should go over all your joystick assignments and display settings/options to ensure they are set to your liking (they reverted to default settings for the Tweet). Possibly something in the weather settings needs to be configured to make it look right.That annoying warning when you pull power back under 70% thrust can be disabled with the horn silence button on the switch panel or in the 2d panel the landing gear override button next to the gear lever will also work (this is not what the override does in real life if you remember ;) ).Have lots of fun flyin it,Zane

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Yeah right now I have both the fs9 and t37 cfgs and comparing them.Im making changes as we speak.My next project is to replace the engine sounds. That scrubbing noise is driving me mad.

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>That scrubbing noise is driving me mad. Which sound set are you using? In the configuration manager you can switch between a set of sounds recorded in the Tweet and a set of sounds just for the sim. I like the realistic sound set but try both to see which you prefer. I don't know of any other sound sets for the Tweet.I do know there is a fantastic Randolph AFB freeware scenery by James Shaddox that I highly recommend, wish he did all the Tweet training bases, Randolph is where the instructors get their training.If the sound you are talking about is for the landing lights, that is finally changed in the next upgrade. The animation in the earlier version used the Concord movable nose animation control and we couldn't separate it from that awful sound.Back to flyin'Zane

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The problem was the t37.cfg was set to 16 instead of 32. That explains the cloud textures.Im guessing this is the realistic soundset. Im pretty good at cutomizing sounds and use fsstudio. Although I see both sets of stock and real life sound files, I think the sound.cfg is for the stock sounds. The realistic looks like a dat file.Look forward to the new update. The only real thing that stands out that would make an improvment, other than the engine sounds, is the vc suffers from that invisible glass appearance. Some reflections would really be awesome.

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Hi Dave and Ken,Thanks to both of you for the link. Got it bookmarked.Regards,Paul

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