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VoxATC 7 Beta bugs

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4 hours ago, john1383 said:

PM on way!

Looked at the log

After you were directed to switch to tower, you tried repeatedly to acknowledge the freq change.

Just before termination the log recorded:

&@($* state set ASSFinals edinburgh tower
   at com.intworkings.voxatc.AircraftStripImpl.SetState(AircraftStripState &@($*)
   at com.intworkings.voxatc.ASSILSApproach.Moved(Position posIn)
   at com.intworkings.voxatc.ATSO.CheckMovements()
   at com.intworkings.voxatc.ATSO.Run()
   at com.intworkings.voxatc.TerminalATSO.Run()
   at com.intworkings.voxatc.ATSOWorker.ActiveRun()
   at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context(Object state)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
   at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()

I believe that shows that Vox was under the impression that it thought you were communicating with Edinburgh Tower.

However, if it wasn't letting you change freq, there may be an issue there.

Unfortunately it would have been useful if there had been more of a log after the content listed above...

What a/c were you flying then?  Could you try the same approach with a different aircraft and see whether you have the same problem? 

 

 

Kevin Firth - AMD 9800X3D; Asus Prime X670E; 64Gb Cas30 6000 DDR5; RTX5090; AutoFPS

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Thanks for helping.

Of course "I" did not repeatedly try to acknowledge the frequency change..that was my automatic copilot who never did actually change it!

I terminated the flights when the glitch happened as I didn't want to waste any more time on them. When it happens again I will persevere to touch down, but the first time it happened I did continue and atc just kept repeating the frequency change request until landing, if I remember correctly, then I aborted the flight.

Good point about the aircraft. For local flights I use the Realair Beech turbine and it occurred to me perhaps something in it could be preventing the copilot retuning to tower frequency, but why he behaves for the rest of the flight defeats me.

I will use one of basic P3d default aircraft next time just to see if that changes things.

Thanks again.

John Anderson

6 minutes ago, john1383 said:

Thanks for helping.

Of course "I" did not repeatedly try to acknowledge the frequency change..that was my automatic copilot who never did actually change it!

I terminated the flights when the glitch happened as I didn't want to waste any more time on them. When it happens again I will persevere to touch down, but the first time it happened I did continue and atc just kept repeating the frequency change request until landing, if I remember correctly, then I aborted the flight.

Good point about the aircraft. For local flights I use the Realair Beech turbine and it occurred to me perhaps something in it could be preventing the copilot retuning to tower frequency, but why he behaves for the rest of the flight defeats me.

I will use one of basic P3d default aircraft next time just to see if that changes things.

Thanks again.

Great, if you can recreate the same issue with a default a/c I think it will be worth reporting to Tegwyn.

Kevin Firth - AMD 9800X3D; Asus Prime X670E; 64Gb Cas30 6000 DDR5; RTX5090; AutoFPS

Exactly same problem here with FSLabs A320.  Will try with pmdg ngx soon. I reported the issue on the website already.

 

So today I tried to set up a VFR flight in Puerto Rico, from Ponce Puerto Rico (TJPS), to Aguadilla Puerto Rico (TJBQ). Aguadilla is the default airport, but Ponce is a freeware by PhotoRico, which I must say that for a freeware, looks nice.

When I started VoxATC, I had traffic, I had ATC talking to traffic, and even gave me the airport information on wind direction and runway in use. However, it asked me to switch frequency, and nothing. I took off just to see what would happen, and I was able to get ATC flight following after takeoff. I was using Flight1 Beechcraft King Air 200. As I started to approach Aguadilla, I was able to get off flight following, but I wasn't able to get instruction to communicate with my arrival airport.

Glitch or human error?

Johnny Rosario

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I noticed that the Procedure Pronunciation Editor is not working in 7.3. Is it because it's a beta and not fully functional, or a bug?

Johnny Rosario

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11 hours ago, kevinfirth said:

Great, if you can recreate the same issue with a default a/c I think it will be worth reporting to Tegwyn.

I tried the same flight using the default Mooney Bravo and unfortunately exactly the same thing happened: after establishing on ils, asked to contact tower but copilot does not tune the radio although he continually acknowledges the frequency change request, so no contact is made, end of vox involvement.

Flight fine up to that point.

Pity.

John Anderson

2 hours ago, john1383 said:

I tried the same flight using the default Mooney Bravo and unfortunately exactly the same thing happened: after establishing on ils, asked to contact tower but copilot does not tune the radio although he continually acknowledges the frequency change request, so no contact is made, end of vox involvement.

Flight fine up to that point.

Pity.

I think that's definitely worth a report.  Can you email me the log for the Mooney flight please so I can have a look?  Did you continue the flight until touchdown?

Kevin Firth - AMD 9800X3D; Asus Prime X670E; 64Gb Cas30 6000 DDR5; RTX5090; AutoFPS

10 hours ago, specialist said:

So today I tried to set up a VFR flight in Puerto Rico, from Ponce Puerto Rico (TJPS), to Aguadilla Puerto Rico (TJBQ). Aguadilla is the default airport, but Ponce is a freeware by PhotoRico, which I must say that for a freeware, looks nice.

When I started VoxATC, I had traffic, I had ATC talking to traffic, and even gave me the airport information on wind direction and runway in use. However, it asked me to switch frequency, and nothing. I took off just to see what would happen, and I was able to get ATC flight following after takeoff. I was using Flight1 Beechcraft King Air 200. As I started to approach Aguadilla, I was able to get off flight following, but I wasn't able to get instruction to communicate with my arrival airport.

Glitch or human error?

At the point you say it asked you to switch frequency, was it "Utopia Radio" that you were told to switch to? That would be to open your VFR flightplan. If it was "Utopia Radio", then that's the same problem I'm having. Can you try it again, just to confirm?

Also, you say you were never given any instruction to communicate with your arrival airport. Again, I'm having the exact same issue. I can NEVER get any prompting to contact the destination, as was the case with v6. After I'm told to "Report airfield in sight", nothing at all from vox. Can't find any workaround to this one.

 

Jay

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My admin computer is having a fit at the moment but I will sent the log as soon as I can sort it out.

I did continue to touchdown.

It seems only a few people are reporting this problem so it is not a general fault.

John Anderson

51 minutes ago, jaybird1nyc said:

At the point you say it asked you to switch frequency, was it "Utopia Radio" that you were told to switch to? That would be to open your VFR flightplan. If it was "Utopia Radio", then that's the same problem I'm having. Can you try it again, just to confirm?

Also, you say you were never given any instruction to communicate with your arrival airport. Again, I'm having the exact same issue. I can NEVER get any prompting to contact the destination, as was the case with v6. After I'm told to "Report airfield in sight", nothing at all from vox. Can't find any workaround to this one.

 

Jay

Yes Jay, it was Utopia Radio, and just like you, I wasn't prompted to contact the destination airport.

Johnny Rosario

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Thanks for confirming, Johnny.

Funny, but any other FSS, other than Utopia, works fine. Yes, you can get around opening your VFR flightplan, as you've discovered, but the other problem with no way to contact the destination airport is a deal-breaker.

 

Jay

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Well, perhaps is something they can look into, since it's still officially in beta.

Johnny Rosario

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I still havent ever encountered utopia radio!

Kevin Firth - AMD 9800X3D; Asus Prime X670E; 64Gb Cas30 6000 DDR5; RTX5090; AutoFPS

Johnny, we can always have hope! I have reported the issues previously, but no joy yet.

 

Kevin, you only would be prompted to contact an FSS to open/close a VFR flightplan. This happens after contacting unicom for a field advisory, and then again after landing. As for Utopia Radio, that is the name of the FSS if the airport afcad doesn't include an FSS frequency. It's a generic name much like oceanic center. Now, why all other FSS names work fine except for Utopia is the mystery.

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