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Hi everyone, after much research and deliberation I'm about ready to pull the trigger on my upgrade.  My planned components are below, I'd love to hear people's thoughts before I go ahead with it:

 

Mobo: GIGABYTE Aorus GA-Z270X-Gaming K5 (rev. 1.0) 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128966&_ga=1.137079472.1061115704.1469585710

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117726&_ga=1.137079472.1061115704.1469585710

 

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C14D-16GVK, Timing 14-14-14-34

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232217&_ga=1.108167426.1061115704.1469585710

 

CPU Fan: Noctua NH-D15S 140mm SSO2 D-Type Premium CPU Cooler, NF-A15 PWM Fans

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAB984BD8349&_ga=1.107122306.1061115704.1469585710

 

SSD (For OS only, not for Prepar3d, see notes): Intel SSD 600p Series (256GB, M.2 2280 80mm NVMe PCIe 3.0 x4, 3D1, TLC) Reseller Single Pack

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167411&_ga=1.78872980.1061115704.1469585710

 

OS: Windows 10 Home - 64-bit - OEM

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416892&_ga=1.78872980.1061115704.1469585710

 

Notes:

 

- I went with 16GB of RAM primarily because DCS World 2 is reported to work much better with 16GB, I didn't neccessarily tdo that based on anything P3D related

- My current CPU is an i5 2500k overclocked to 4.5Ghz

- The SSD is only intended for my OS and perhaps a few other things.  I'll be buying a much larger, top of the line SSD at some point in the future for P3D (likely when v4 is released)...frankly I'm trying to spread the cash flows of my overall upgrade over a bit of time.  For now I'll install P3D and the rest on my old hard drive.

- I am running a GTX770 with 4GB Ram onboard, I'll likely upgrade that later this year.

- For those who may have read my other thread earlier this week, I decided to bite the bullet and upgrade to Windows 10 rather than buy a 6700k and stick with Windows 7.

 

I also wanted to thank everyone who participates in this forum, both those who have replied directly to my posts and those who have contributed elsewhere (I read a lot of threads in this forum over the past six months or so).  It's relatively easy to get hardware advice for regular gaming elsewhere on the net, but P3D/FSX specific advice is hard to come by other than places like this.

 

Thanks!

 

Dave

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Just finished my build today, somewhat similar to yours. It's fun and very rewarding. 

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A few minor tweaks, I'm going to go with the Gaming 5 mobo rather than K5 (with shipping factored in it's only $CDN13 more expensive and it comes with an additional USB 3 port).  I'm also going to buy a full version of WIndows 10 Home rather than the OEM version.  More flexibility down the road and only CDN$15 difference in price.

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Just finished my build today, somewhat similar to yours. It's fun and very rewarding. 

 

Actually was wondering about this guys' experience?

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Ahh cool, I see - I shouldn't have been posting that late on a Saturday night :)

 

I placed my order today so I'll report back once everything is up and running.

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Actually was wondering about this guys' experience?

 

Had i7-3770 @ 3.5, OS not on an SSD (the biggest difference). I upgrade the VC when the 1080 first came out, so I was able to transfer that over. 

 

Regarding FPS, running a 50' 4K (60hz) before the upgrade I was at 30-50 PMDG NGX, now I'm between 40-70. The biggest difference I see is texture and sim load up times - that's what's night and day with this build (M.2 SSD).

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All of my components except one will be here tomorrow...the final one, my SSD, won't arrive until next Thursday as newegg shipped it from Vancouver rather than Toronto, where everything else I've ever bought came from (I'm on the Canadian east coast, so closer to England than BC!). Arrrgh! Killing me newegg! If I'd known that at checkout I would have sprung for express shipping for that item.

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I'd put together the system using any spare hard drive, and when the SSD comes, just clone the system to SSD. Easy. 

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I've never done that before, pretty easy? The only thing that needs to go on the drive is the OS (new install of windows 10)

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Update: all components installed and working except the ssd as per above, but I took Yang's advice and will clone my temporary drive to the ssd when it arrives this week.

 

I'm currently stress testing a 4.8ghz overclock with Aida64. 20 minutes in the max temperatures are 68c with voltage maxing out at 1.32. This is with hyper threading off.

 

In terms of p3d performance, I tested a scenario:

 

PMDG 777-200LR

Flytampa CYYZ gate 180

Orbx global

Utx Canada

As16 real weather (currently very foggy with dense clouds in Toronto)

Full air traffic (limited to 100 aircraft with fsuipc)

All other settings are as per my normal airliners preset from my last installation.

 

On my i52500k I would be in the 15-18fps range, with the new set up I'm getting low to mid 30s consistently. Suffice to say I'm happy so far!

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Good to know you got everything up and running. 65C is pretty cool. You should try to push it a little higher to 5 GHz. Mine is a bad chip, but I can get it run 50x100MHz with 48x AVX at 1.40-1.41v. >80C when running Realbench but everything is perfectly stable.  

 

I'm dreadful about reinstalling P3D and its long list of addons on my new 7700K. I'll probably wait until P3D 64bit coming out. 

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Thanks! Yes I'll definitely give 5ghz a try, thanks for your settings, I'll start there.

 

In terms of addons, I plan to install them as I go, rather than doing one big install blitz lasting a week.

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About double fps increase... that's about what I'd expect if I do it.  It's funny though how it's still only 30's.  Such ancient software roots I suppose...

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I heard (I heard and I read), that Intel's days of "playing games" are almost over, eh? Looks like AMD is coming back on scene with double performance and half the price of Intel's best CPU. (I heard and I read- Remember?... Please do not hurt the mail-man. That would be a Federal Crime).  :P

Well, we shall see said...        the mail man? 

 

 

Until then, I have great reasons to Stand-bye!

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I'd add that in addition to higher fps, the fps are also much more consistent, so the overall experience is more fluid. Also, the scenario I described is about the worst I would expect in terms of fps, so more moderate scenarios are even better. I landed at MUVR (orbx freeware version) and was in the high 50's.

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Update, I hit 5.0Ghz, under AIDA64 testing I have one core at 70 and the rest 68-69.  Voltages never exceeded 1.33.  I'm going to try download realbench and see what kind of comparison I can get to your results Yang.

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Your chip seems to be way better than mine. 1.33v for 5.0GHz is excellent. Remember mine is 1.41v, huge difference.

 

Of course, the Vcore was auto-set by BIOS, but I suspect I can offset by much if any. 

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Yes I think I've been lucky in the silicone lottery for sure. I did a quick real bench 15 minute test last night and the results were mostly the same as with aida64.

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Yes I think I've been lucky in the silicone lottery for sure. I did a quick real bench 15 minute test last night and the results were mostly the same as with aida64.

 

Really glad to have come across this thread for a couple of reasons. Firstly, I'm really torn on the CPU upgrade I'm about to make - if it's Intel it'll be the 7700k for sure but I'm just waiting for AMD to announce Ryzen and see what overclocking people can get. That said, your report of 5Ghz on air cooling (is that right?) is a big temptation. Would anyone be able to comment on performance with a liquid cooler (e.g. Corsair, DeepCool)? Those results, both temperature and speed really are excellent though.

 

I'm not sure whether to future proof in the hope that Lockheed Martin can optimise more cores and make use of the potential Ryzen 1800x - there are a lot of "what ifs" with this line of thinking but I'm holding out on the sim side until P3D v4 and 64 bit potentially - I'd hate to build in the next couple of weeks and find I should've gone with a different set up.

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