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Orbx just released the DTG killer...wow...

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Go and check out on their forums, the just released screen captures for Innsbruck...for AF2

Orbx team getting 130 FPS, no stutters, dead smooth flight...and folks, you'd be hard pressed to NOT say they they are flying over real world terrain, real world buildings, imagery.

This is simply the death knell of ESP-based flight sims. whether 32...or 64 bit.  Bye-Bye, ESP...a dinosaur graphics engine, gasping on last-legs, 64 bit steroids...and hello AF2, the M.S. based flight sim killa....

Go check out the post...but first, place a towel under your chin..or you're gonna give yourself some pain, in the viewing...

http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/134014-welcome-to-a-new-era-presenting-ftx-innsbruck-for-aerofly-fs2-flight-simulator/

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10 minutes ago, Sesquashtoo said:

This is simply the death knell of ESP-based flight sims. whether 32...or 64 bit.  Bye-Bye, ESP...a dinosaur graphics engine, gasping on last-legs, 64 bit steroids...and hello AF2, the M.S. based flight sim killa....

In a couple of years maybe, when everything that is missing in Aerofly 2 has been added. And that is a lot! That scenery looks stunning though.

Any particular reason you are posting this here? This is the FSW forum, not Orbx or Aerofly 2 :huh:

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We will have to wait and see what it looks like in FSW.

Ray Fry.

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5 minutes ago, Rimshot said:

In a couple of years maybe, when everything that is missing in Aerofly 2 has been added. And that is a lot! That scenery looks stunning though.

Rim...they have been working feverishly, the IPACS team, to deliver A.I.  ATC...all that is in P3D.  It's not going to be years...but months away...but for now...this is where any further Ses-money is going.  ESP is ancient, and 64 bit lipstick still has an aging pig behind the color change.  I want a new graphics engine, and it won't be found in the dying gasps of a ESP engine rework. I don't have to drop any money on my 2011 based tank sitting to my left, for it pops out 120 FPS easy, in AF2, and Orbx is stating 130 easy to maintain with this unbelievable package, June 15th....with the sim full-bore featured out!

 Anyway, back to your regular scheduled Flight World topic postings.

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This really doesn't belong in this forum.  Especially with the hyperbolic, inflammatory remarks by the OP.  

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3 minutes ago, TechguyMaxC said:

This really doesn't belong in this forum.  Especially with the hyperbolic, inflammatory remarks by the OP.  

Just for you, we're back to regularly scheduled programming/posting... :)

I'm sure you've hit the REPORT button, about three times...:cool:

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Nope, haven't touched it.  Just pointing out that this is the kind of trolling that gets threads locked.  

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7 minutes ago, TechguyMaxC said:

Nope, haven't touched it.  Just pointing out that this is the kind of trolling that gets threads locked.  

Not trolling, (of course as I see it).....just a head's up, that something as new is just a month away.  Certainly much less worse a post, than the DTG Flight World bashing/lynching, that has been seen on this forum to date.  Jeez...

People that might not be aware, and there might be many...that a non ESP based engine is getting some lovin'....but Techguy, as I said, was just a FYI, and no more needs to be stated. People have choices, and choices are good, for those that might not hit every forum on AVSIM. A lot don't...

Cheers,

Ses

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Its OK Ses,

These guys are just salty after seeing the screenshots.

ESP is dead.

RIP FSW.

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flying circles over LOWI gets boring.

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23 minutes ago, Rimshot said:

In a couple of years maybe, when everything that is missing in Aerofly 2 has been added. And that is a lot! That scenery looks stunning though.

Any particular reason you are posting this here? This is the FSW forum, not Orbx or Aerofly 2 :huh:

Just as a head's up. for those that have to date, perhaps have not been keeping up with other then ESP based tech.  That was the intent. Empowering simmers with alternative choices..., Rimshot.

If someone decides that this is best taken to another forum, perhaps Hangar Chat...then that is fine with me, also.

Cheers,

Ses

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2 minutes ago, KavindaJD said:

Its OK Ses,

These guys are just salty after seeing the screenshots.

ESP is dead.

RIP FSW.

It is quite amazing what new tech behind the scenery can do...in my view, it looked real world, with no stretch of the imagination required, and cruising along at 130 FPS.  Cheers,.

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2 minutes ago, jt8d9a said:

flying circles over LOWI gets boring.

JT, I don't think that will be the user experience in less than 6 months...:)

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From which airport will you be able to fly to LOWI?

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Orbx LOWI for AeroFly FS2 has been announced weeks ago and, to the best of my knowledge, is due on June 15.
What exactly has been revealed today? And why should it be seen as a "DTG killer"?
 

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One decent VFR Aircraft is all that I ask...this is the only sim with a flawless VR experience until now.

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You can already put high resolution autogen-annotated photoreal scenery into FSW. TrueSky with GPU-based volumetric clouds on the way and FSW is getting a major upgrade to weather simulation. FSW already has AI and ATC. And the water looks like water. PBR rendering for aircraft, Missions, lessons etc. And devs pretty much already know how to develop for FSW, should be relatively easy to port existing addons.

But yes AF2 looks neat, though with it only supporting raster terrain imagery, it seems a bit limited. Good luck sourcing high-res imagery for the whole planet. In any case I'll be more interested when it's not necessary to buy multi-thousand dollar development tools in order to use their SDK. Does AF2 have seasons? Correct positioning of celestial bodies for the night sky? How about navaids?

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8 minutes ago, jt8d9a said:

flying circles over LOWI gets boring.

Yeah, that's why I don't find this very interesting. I'm a low-and-slow sim pilot in bush planes and helicopters. I need scenery that looks good everywhere, not just at a few (expensive) airports,

Aerofly FS2 uses orthophotos as the terrain base for the world, and I can't stand seeing squashed buildings, squashed cars, blurry terrain, and scenery that doesn't respond to sunlight angle and color. I know there are many fans of orhtophoto-based scenery out there, I'm just not one of them.

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38 minutes ago, TechguyMaxC said:

This really doesn't belong in this forum.  Especially with the hyperbolic, inflammatory remarks by the OP.  

Correct. And by the way one of the first posts on OrbX is "move aside P3D." So WHEN this product matches FSX, XP and P3D in terms of completeness and systems, it would beat all other sims, not just FSW. Why single out FSW?

I dare OP to use AF2 exclusively for six months. You don't want to because it's not close to matching other sims in other areas.

And for the record, I'm rooting for AF2 and basically every other sim. AF2 has a ways to go outside of graphics. I tried it.

 

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29 minutes ago, Sesquashtoo said:

just a head's up, that something as new is just a month away.

Thanks, for that, MItch

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11 minutes ago, jt8d9a said:

From which airport will you be able to fly to LOWI?

I have nothing to back this up...but from what I am cryptically 'sniffing' from comments of John over so many months of the A-project, is that they are probably going to flood with simultaneous releases. Look at the resources they assigned in team-work to make Innsbruck take on life, such as we have not seen to date...John and the Orbx cohorts, are solidly behind this graphic engine, not even needing to 'label' the engine as AF2...they also see the writing on the wall, and wish to show just what their tech can do, outside of the historic confines of the ESP-based parameters.  My Lord...look what they produced!

BTW, perhaps a Moderator will take this thread over to AF2, or Hangar Chat.  The word is out, now...and some members feel uncomfortable with this thread inside this forum.  If readers wish to post within, it can be done anywhere upon AVSIM.

I can agree with this, as the OP.

Cheers, all.

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6 minutes ago, vc10man said:

Thanks, for that, MItch

Most welcome, knowledge, has always been about power of choice.

With so many members not happy with what was released in the long wait for FSW, even as Early Release structure,I just thought to share that they now have a pretty massive performance option if they so choose, and also enjoy the Orbx scenery umbrella. There is choice, now other than ESP based, excluding XP.x

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Can't hardly understand this thread. Apparently, I can't find any real news on the Orbx forum that we did not know already until few hours ago. Or maybe am I missing something?

Anyway, I owe AeroFly FS2 since Day 1 and purchased all the DLCs so far available. While I love it and strongly support it, I can't see the relation with DTG FSW and why the LOWI release should be considered as a DTG killer. AeroFly FS2 will be hopefully a serious competitor for all the current major platforms (FSX32, FSW, P3D, X-Plane11) in a couple of years or maybe more.

ESP is dead? Not yet, at least not as long as developers will seriously start investing on AeroFly, which I obviously encourage. I've heard similar statements (Ezdok is dead when Chaseplane was announced) just two days before Ezdok v2 was released. No more hype, please. Back to reality.

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I´m sorry, but they announced that ages ago, even before FSW was announced. I don´t see the point of this thread being created in here. I don´t mind, I know Aerofly since its first version, but it clearly doesn´t belong to the FSW forums.

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