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Carenado PREMIER 1A released for P3D V4

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Well I have just installed the 390 in P3D V4 , installed OK, (unfortunately tries to install the old way , inside P3D root ..not following LM add on procs, I created my own install outside the root P3D and works OK)), all seems OK but as you mentioned no fuel to the engine to start cold and dark, I cannot even do the Sh 7 trick as there is no cold and dark there , the engines will start with Ctrl E but... any one else has this problem and a solution to it ?? 

Also I found that the two white lights above the boost pumps are a click spot for the engine 1 starter button!!!.. (only 1 not 2)

 

Jorge

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Don't have it installed at the moment but there's definitely a menu with cold & dark, ready to taxi etc options. If it's not Shift-7 try another Shift combination.

Just as you posted , yes there is another Shf to get a second config panel , one Shf7 gives the external Pwr and other things , the other Shf 8 gives the rdy to taxi and cold dark.. and mouse actions.. Selecting Cold&Dark works tOK.

Jorge

For the gauge guys , in P3D if you enable content error logging you will find hundreds of script errors in the gauges ... very bad ..there is also a .gau gauge in the folder , is it OK?..

 

Jorge

10 hours ago, aeronauta said:

For the gauge guys , in P3D if you enable content error logging you will find hundreds of script errors in the gauges ... very bad ..there is also a .gau gauge in the folder , is it OK?..

 

Jorge

FSX user here, but I would be curious to see the error log.  Can you please PM me?

I am using P3D v 3.4.  I am unable to pull up any 2D panels after SHFT + 4.  In other words, everything works perfect for SHFT + 1, 2, 3, and 4.  But absolutely nothing for SHFT +5, 6, 7, 8, or 9  !  I have also installed the GTN 750 thru the GTN config and cannot get anything from that either. I have reinstalled the a/c 3 times with same results. VERY perplexing.  Any ideas ?? Thanks !

 
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C525B sent you a bit of the file , it is 500Kb will upload it and send a link , I am on P3D V4 +HF1

@vcarlo look in the panel folder panel.cfg and see how many window= entries are there...I have up to window08 (0-8 meaning 9)

Jorge

Everything seems to be there --but I have worked a lot with panel configs and this is one weird looking one.    This is DEFAULT after installation of GTN 750

/*********************************************************
// CARENADO 390 Premier IA FSX/P3D
// Copyright @ Carenado 2017 - All Rights Reserved
//*********************************************************


[Window Titles]
Window00=PFD PROLINE21
Window01=MFD PROLINE21
Window02=AUTOPILOT
Window03=DCP
Window04=FMC
Window05=CONTROL WINDOWS
Window06=WINDOWS MANAGER

Window07=TEST INFO
Window08=LOADING SCREEN

VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=-1.000, 0.000, 0.000
Window09=Flight1 Garmin GTN750 U1 - DO NOT MODIFY
Window10=Flight1 GTN Stack - DO NOT MODIFY

//- PFD PROLINE21 -------------------------------------------------------
[Window00]
Background_color=32,32,32 
size_mm=1046,1300
visible=0
ident=0
no_luminous=1
window_size= 0.344, 0.761
window_pos= 0.000, 0.020

gauge00=;CARPROLINE21_390IA!Proline_Config_390,  0,0,10,10
gauge01=CARPROLINE21_390IA!HS25B_pfd,  1,0,1046,1300
gauge02=B390ICAR!ToggleCARPFD,              64,    0, 1024,  64

//- MFD PROLINE21 -------------------------------------------------------
[Window01]
Background_color=32,32,32 
size_mm=763,949
position=2
visible=0
ident=795
no_luminous=1
window_size= 0.344, 0.761
window_pos= 0.655, 0.020

gauge00=;CARPROLINE21_390IA!Proline_Config_390,  0,0,10,10
gauge01=CARPROLINE21_390IA!HS25B_mfd_pilot,  1,0,763,949
gauge02=B390ICAR!ToggleCARMFD,              64,    0, 1024,  64


//-- AUTOPILOT ------------------------------------------------------
[Window02]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=1024 , 135
visible=0
ident=10130
position=5
no_luminous=1

window_size= 0.649, 0.152
window_pos=  0.351, 0.848

gauge00=CARPROLINE21_390IA!autopilot_bezel,            0,  0,1024,135
gauge01=B390ICAR!Toggle10130,                 0,  0, 1024, 16


// windowssizeX = (window_sizeY * size_mmX / size_mmY) * 9 / 16
//-- DCP BEZEL ------------------------------------------------------
[Window03]
size_mm=285,1300
position=8
visible=0
ident=797

window_size= 0.094, 0.761
window_pos=  0.450, 0.020

gauge00=;CARPROLINE21_390IA!Proline_Config_390,  0,0,10,10
gauge01=CARPROLINE21_390IA!dcp_bezel,    0,0,285,1300
gauge02=B390ICAR!Toggle797,                0,0,285,64

//-- FMC -------------------------------------------------
[Window04]
size_mm=1024,1131
visible=1
ident=213
no_luminous=1
window_size= 0.306, 0.600
window_pos=  0.1, 0.400

gauge00=CARPROLINE21_390IA!Proline_Config_390,  0,0,10,10
gauge01=FMS_6000_B390I!FMC_6000,  0,0,1024,1131
gauge02=B390ICAR!Toggle213,                 0,  0, 1024, 64


// windowssizeX = (window_sizeY * size_mmX / size_mmY) * 9 / 16
//-- CONTROL WINDOWS ------------------------------------------------------
[Window05]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=500,287
position=0
visible=0
ident=796
no_luminous=1

window_size= 0.181,0.185
window_pos= 0.010, 0.020

gauge00=B390ICAR!Control_windows,  0,0,500,287


//-- WINDOWS MANAGER ------------------------------------------------------
[Window06]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=331,204
window_size= 0.183, 0.200
window_pos=  0.409, 0.020
position=0
visible=1
ident=10060
no_luminous=1

gauge00=B390ICAR!WindowManager ,   0,  0, 331,204

//-- ENGINE SETUP ------------------------------------------------------
[Window07]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=600,759
window_size= 0.333, .750
position=2
visible=0
ident=10070
no_luminous=1

gauge00=B390ICAR!StartWindowsAircraft ,   0,  0, 600,759

//--------------------------------------------------------
//[Window07]
//Background_color=0,0,0 
//size_mm=600,490

//window_size= 0.344, .500

//position=3
//visible=0
//nomenu=1
//ident=10190


//gauge00=B390ICAR!TestWindowsAircraft ,   0,  0, 600,490

//-- LOADING SCREEN -------------------------------------------------
[Window08]
size_mm=467,204
position=4
visible=1
ident=215
window_size= 0.24324, 0.2

gauge00=Loading_Screen_3901A!Proline_Loading_Screen,  0,0,467,204

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit01]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=1024,1024
visible=0
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$Panel_1

gauge00=CARPROLINE21_390IA!Proline_Config_390,  0,0,10,10
gauge01=CARPROLINE21_390IA!Proline_Common_Update,  0,0,10,10
gauge02=CARPROLINE21_390IA!Proline_C_Patch,  0,0,10,10
gauge03=CARPROLINE21_390IA!HS25B_pfdVC,               0,    0, 512, 636
gauge04=CARPROLINE21_390IA!HS25B_mfd_pilotVC,     512,    0, 512, 636

gauge05=B390ICAR!ToggleCARPFD,               64,    0, 484,  64
gauge06=B390ICAR!ToggleCARMFD,              576,    0, 484,  64
gauge07=B390I_Cabin_alt!C340_PRESS,  0,0,1,1
gauge08=CarSound_B3901A!CarSound,  0,0,5,5
gauge09=CarSound_B3901ACALL!CarSound,                       2,2,5,5
gauge10=CARB390I_PROLINE21!PROLINE21,                       0,0,1,1


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit02]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=1024,1024
visible=0
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$Panel_2

gauge00=CARPROLINE21_390IA!autopilot_bezelVC,           0,    0,1024, 135
gauge01=CARPROLINE21_390IA!ccp_bezel,            0,    138, 512,171
gauge02=CARPROLINE21_390IA!dcp_bezel,       526,    137, 184,884


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit03]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=1024,1024
visible=0
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$Panel_3


gauge00=GAUGE390IA!Gauge_UPDATE_B3901A_DIG,   0,  0,   1,  1
gauge01=GAUGE390IA!Gauge_Anum_3901A,         0,  0,1024,532
gauge02=GAUGE390IA!Radio_CTL_COMNAV,      0,638, 300, 324

gauge03=GAUGE390IA!Gauge_GAUGE_FUEL_L,     579,544, 192, 75
gauge04=GAUGE390IA!Gauge_GAUGE_FUEL_R,     579,622, 192, 75
gauge05=GAUGE390IA!Gauge_VOLTS_AMPS,       778,544, 192, 97

gauge06=GAUGE390IA!Gauge_CABIN_ALTITUDE,   316,544, 265, 190

gauge07=GAUGE390IA!Gauge_Anum_MASTER_WARNING,     270, 609,109,81
gauge08=GAUGE390IA!Gauge_Anum_MASTER_CAUTION,     380, 609,109,81

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit04]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=512,512
visible=0
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$Panel_4

gauge00=FMS_6000_B390I!FMC_6000_config,  0,0,  1,  1
gauge01=FMS_6000_B390I!FMC_6000,            0,0,464,512
gauge02=B390ICAR!Toggle213,                 0,  0, 512, 16


Day=255,255,255
Night=148,91,0
Luminous=246,115,119

[Default View]
X=0
Y=0
SIZE_X=8192
SIZE_Y=6143

[Window09]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=937,887
ident=14401
zorder=99
gauge00=F1GTN!GTN750,  0,0,937,887,UNIT1.POP
window_pos= 0.660, 0.420
window_size= 0.340, 0.580
[Window10]
size_mm=255,800
Position= 0
window_size= 0.058, 0.243
visible=1
ident=14400
zorder=100
gauge00=F1GTN!GTNStack,  0,0,255,870
 

 
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On 6/29/2017 at 8:53 AM, aerostar said:

Does anyone know how to start this from cold..........   or is this another bug ?

In my setup, the throttles can only be placed in cutoff or moved out of cutoff with the mouse.  Before trying to start from cold and dark, ensure the throttles are in cutoff (all the way back) by using the mouse.  After pressing the start button move the throttles from cutoff to idle with the mouse.  The engines should start fine.  From idle to full power the throttles can be controlled with your joystick. 

I have a Hotas Warthog and the Throttle has a cutoff position , I used the simconnect General_eng_fuel_valve assignment to do that.

@vcarlo , have you tried removing the GTN750? your panel.cfg looks just like mine..

Jorge

1 hour ago, aeronauta said:

I have a Hotas Warthog and the Throttle has a cutoff position , I used the simconnect General_eng_fuel_valve assignment to do that.

@vcarlo , have you tried removing the GTN750? your panel.cfg looks just like mine..

Jorge

Thanks Jorge, 

I was having some issues before I installed the GTN but I will definitely try that option :biggrin:

 
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vcarlo I just realized you installed the 750 in P3D V4/ iis it supported? i think not.

Jorge

1 hour ago, aeronauta said:

vcarlo I just realized you installed the 750 in P3D V4/ iis it supported? i think not.

Jorge

Sorry, I should not have posted my problem in this specific thread.  (MY BAD) !  I started my own thread after realizing that.

I'm NOT running v4, I am running v3.4.  Also I have uninstalled the GTN 750 and my problems with the Premier continue.  I usually don't purchase Carenado until our experts around here have done some mods.  Unfortunately, I didn't wait on this one and she is being UNinstalled until such time as modifications are available :sad::sad:

 
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  • 1 month later...

I can't believe I wasted good money on this worthless model of an airplane. The ONLY thing Carenado got right was the textures. They just keep reusing their dumb down version of the Proline21. No improvements since the Hawker 850XP. It ignores any altitude selected on the MCP. Even with Alt Alert activated in PREFS (Which you don't have to do in the real thing) it will ignore any preset altitude if you've made any changes in the climb preference, i.e., change to FLC. IF ALTS is not showing on he PFD it just keeps climbing/desending. That is NOT the way the real Proline21 works. I can't believe Carenado has never fixed this. By the way, FLC is worthless. It will cause the auto pilot to make the airplane porpoise up and down in an attempt to maintain a constant airspeed. Did no real world pilot test this? In addition to the unstable auto pilot and FMS, there is absolutely no attempt to model a FADEC power management system. The real Premier has only a single channel system so it can't really be called FADEC, but it works exactly the same. Carenado should take a look at the Eaglesoft Citation X, in which they've modeled the FADEC system about as close to the real thing as you can get. So it CAN be done even with the limitations of P3D. In my opinion, the sounds are terrible and nothing like the real thing. If you have ever flown a real Premier 1A you will immediately recognize that there is no comparison with the systems or flight model. If Carenado spent as much effort on their systems as they do on their textures they could have a really good product. But until people stop buying their products, nothing will change.

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On 6/27/2017 at 9:36 PM, aerostar said:

 

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Aerostar, I just moved to P3Dv4 and I noticed from this screenshot that you're having an issue I am experiencing as well.  Please see my thread here: 

 

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